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Latest comment: 4 months ago4 comments4 people in discussion
I think the article should probably refer to her as Camilla rather than Shand. Apart from sounding odd using Shand is ambiguous as it could refer to her, her brother or mum or dad. I may come back and change them if no one objects? Tim333 (talk) 17:02, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
References to "Parker Bowles" should also be changed to "Camilla". Nowhere in the Queen Mum's article is she referred to as "Bowes-Lyon". Peter Ormond 💬 04:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I disagree. The Queen Mother was known mostly as Lady Elizabeth before her marriage. Same with Diana, Princess of Wales who was known as Lady Diana. Unlike them, Camilla is not the daughter of an aristocrat; on top of that during the entire period from the mid-1970s to 2005 she was known as Mrs Parker Bowles. Her case is pretty much similar to Catherine, Princess of Wales, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh. All of them are referred to by their maiden surnames in sections that cover their premarital life. Keivan.fTalk 16:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Queen Camilla’s title should be changed.
Latest comment: 23 days ago15 comments10 people in discussion
Queen Camilla is a Queen Consort. Prince Phillip, who used to be HM Queen Elizabeth’s husband, did not get a title of King Phillip. Therefore Camilla should be called Queen Consort not just Queen itself. Clairehong228 (talk) 07:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Firstly, "Queen Consort" isn't a title. Queen is the title. Consort tells us what type of Queen she is. Queen Elizabeth II was Queen because she was the regnant. Camilla is the Queen because she is a consort. In either cases, the latter is not the title. Secondly, Phillip did not get the title of "King Philip" because there is no such thing as a King Consort therefore he was titled as Prince. 81.140.89.191 (talk) 13:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Queen Consort might not be a title and the page name will remain the same as it is now. But wasn't this page titled "Queen Consort Camilla" from September 2022 when Elizabeth II passed away till the coronation in May last year. Why so? Just asking for clarity. Regards MSincccc (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
I also hope that Wikipedia upholds this standard. I think that when her father-in-law passes away, the Princess of Wales' page should be titled "Catherine, Queen Consort" up until the time of her coronation (if there is a coronation, it's likely, but only time will tell). Wikipedia often has trouble being consistent, I hope they are with things like this. StrawWord298944 (talk) 23:40, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
The article should reflect whatever reliable sources say the titles are when that happens. TFD (talk) 14:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
It's likely that Catherine will not be styled Queen Consort at the time of her husband's accession. Queens Consort are only distinguished as such when there is a transition from a Queen Regnant to a King Regnant - thus Victoria to Edward VII, and Elizabeth II to Charles III. Queens Mary and Elizabeth were styled simply as 'Queen' from the point of accession.
Note, of course, that when the King dies, Queen Camilla will immediately take the title of Queen Dowager and be styled as Her Majesty Queen Camilla, rather than Her Majesty the Queen. Chrisxo (talk) 21:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
We use the titles that Buckingham Palace used. Camilla's title was Queen Consort until her coronation, when it became Queen. All reliable sources have followed this usage. If you can point to legislation, orders in council or letters patent that explain why this is wrong, then please provide them. Otherwise, your reasoning is just original research and invalid.
Incidentally, Philip did not receive the title of Prince Consort. TFD (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
Neither did George. Just wanted to bring that up for the record :) Keivan.fTalk 19:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
The titles prince and princess were not used by the royal family until the Hanoverians, except for Wales. TFD (talk) 14:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Small correction — the title Princess Royal was used prior to the Hanoverians, with King Charles I's wife starting the tradition. She came from France, where the eldest daughter was known as the Madame Royale. This was adapted to the modern term "Princess Royal." Meaning there were generally one prince and two princesses in England prior to the Hanoverians: the Prince and Princess of Wales, and the Princess Royal, all of which still are titles held by living people today. StrawWord298944 (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Her official title is Her Majesty The Queen. She is, of course, the consort of the king and is therefore a queen consort; but all in all, she is The Queen. 71.184.82.123 (talk) 04:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
What's sad here is that anybody would even bother to reply to such utter nonsense, rather than just ignoring it. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
It's not your king or your queen consort, so you cannot understand. Let's have a chat about your country and it's rulers. Wait no, it's none of our business. 2406:2D40:9043:4910:7453:B18:C75C:A4DE (talk) 02:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia is edited by users from around the globe and is read by an international audience. There is no rule banning people from editing pages based on their nationality and place of origin. As long as one has access to reliable sources and information they can edit any topic of interest. So yeah, the content on a given page could be anyone's business. Keivan.fTalk 05:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2024
Latest comment: 2 months ago6 comments5 people in discussion
Camilla is not a Queen and labelling the page as such when she is Consort only is dangerously misleading. 202.161.127.50 (talk) 21:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I assume you're going to post the same comment on the talk pages of all previous Queen consorts too? Or is it just Camilla? 81.140.89.191 (talk) 14:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Of course they won't. Whether people like her or not, legally speaking, Camilla is Queen in every way except in the sense that she is not a Queen regnant. All royal sources and all official documents have referred to her as Her Majesty The Queen since the coronation. It simply comes down to the person's irrational and personal hatred for the person. StrawWord298944 (talk) 17:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
If you go to royal.uk, you can literally see that she is, in fact, a Queen. Stop spreading misinformation and get over it. StrawWord298944 (talk) 06:51, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Royal Maundy 2024
Latest comment: 2 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
Can someone add a bit under the section titled "Queen consort" that references that the Queen stood in for the King at the 2024 Royal Maundy church service? StrawWord298944 (talk) 05:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Coats of arms and copyright
Latest comment: 1 month ago1 comment1 person in discussion
A discussion is going on at the Commons concerning the copyright status of several coats of arms that are in use on pages related to British royalty. Please feel free to share your comments and input at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Coat of arms of Queen Camilla.svg. Thanks. Keivan.fTalk 18:29, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
