Talk:Brickwork
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Could someone address my edits on terminology and dimensioning such that they're in line with the images? I'm real busy right at the moment and don't have time to work out how to get them up from the base of the page, where they're lost at the moment.
There's also a spelling mistake in dimensioning, places should be placed.
I'm only a student of architecture, but wouldn't 3/4 of the bricks in an English bond be visible (one brick thick, one face visible)? The article says 3/4 of the bricks aren't visible. Atchius 19:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also we need to add stack bond. I don't know what it is. I'm using this article to study for a structures test. Atchius 19:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
this article and 'masonry' are also being confused in the other languages wikis. if you go through all the language links in all the different wikis, you get either 'masonry', 'mason', 'brickwork' or 'bricklayer'. none are consistent with 'mason' to 'mason', 'brickwork' to 'brickwork', etc. examples: english 'masonry' links to portuguese 'brickwork'. spanish 'bricklayer' links to german 'mason' which links back to spanish 'masonry'. english 'brickworks' links to dutch 'mason' and back to english 'masonry'. and links to dutch and french wikis are half for 'mason' half for 'masonry' for both. and dutch 'mason' links to 'stone masonry' wikis. if the exact equivalent article doesnt exist, i understand the divergance, but when they do, i dont understand. someone should take the inititive and relink all 'mason's to each other, 'brickwork's to each other, etc. for all wikis. im sure users of all other wikis wont read this, so someone from here should do so, cuz english wiki has the most language links. anyone can do it using some logic: romance languages links starting with 'mam' go to masonry, starting with 'alb/alv' go to the person bricklayer, ending with 'eria' is the discipline 'brickwork'. germanic language links starting with 'mas/mat' go to masonry, ending with 'er' is the worker, ending in 'n' is the discipline, starting with 'ste/sto' go to stonemasonry. i prefer experts to do the languages they're sure of, but i'll do it if no one else does it soon. i've put the same comment in wikiproject architecture's "construction forum" and 'masonry's discussion, to alert users of those articles to move in the same direction.Ivansevil 03:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can someone explain better what is the difference between Header bond and Stretcher bond? The pictures look structurally (although not dimensionally) identical.How can rows be "offset an entire brick"? Quirkie 22:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
2 out of 3 sections in this talk page are about bonds (now 3 out of 4 with this). that could be cuz 1/2 of this article is about the different types of bonds. even the intro talks too much about types of bonds. the french and spanish wikis have separate articles for 'bonds' themselves. i propose we do the same for english wiki, and restore the old bond (masonry) article (undoing what was talked about in "masonry"s talk page. after all, cant bonds be used for materials other than just "brick" (although its the most common in modern construction)? Ivansevil 22:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This article seems to touch somewhat lightly on brick as an structural construction technique (just that it has tensile issues and that it's rarely used today). The timber framing articles discuss actual height limitations and construction considerations/techniques, etc. I was wondering if someone knowledgable on the subject could do something similar here - even though it's historical in purpose. I live in a 100 year old brick factory converted into condos, and I'd be curious to know more about that construction design. The building is 6 stories of structural brick, which seems like a lot - but what's the maximum? The walls clearly are load-bearing, as the floor beams connect right into them, with iron supports between the beams at joints. It also seems like the brick between windows is much thicker than that above and under windows (sensible...) but I'd like to know more.
Thanks, CSZero (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What's the difference between these two? That in the Flemish bond, the smaller bricks seem to be about half the size of the bigger ones, while in the Rat-trap bond, they seem to be only about a third the size? 62.152.162.199 (talk) 05:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like someone took it upon himself to delete huge swaths of this article on April 3. I've looked at the material he removed, and it's information that any bricklayer would know and concur with. His demand for verification is like demanding verification that the sky is blue. 24.6.159.76 (talk) 02:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The German version of this article distinguishes these two as follows:
Dutch bond is alternate rows of all headers and all stretchers.Flemish bond is offset rows of alternate header and stretcher.
I have certainly seen both here (in the UK). Surely there is also a distinction in English? Myredroom (talk) 13:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, my ploy of hanging back hoping for somebody else to do this has failed. A short and simple edit to follow. --Old Moonraker (talk) 14:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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I've made a start this morning trying to make this page a little healthier. There were -- and remain -- lots of unsourced claims, and many of the sources that were cited amount now to dead links. In addition there were many many good and worthy claims, but they are claims that do not really belong on this WP page. For example:
'There are at least 6 buildings built of Flemish Bond Brickwork in and around the Historic Village of Menangle in New South Wales, Australia. The buildings include the Anglican Church, the Historic Menangle School, Gilbulla and three houses on Station Street.'
... This claim is fine, but it probably belongs on a WP page about the Historic Village of Menangle in New South Wales, Australia, where the claim would be very relevant, rather than on this WP page where it is a bit esoteric. Such claims as I have excised, I will reapportion to the other WP pages -- I'm not just wanting to make massive info deletions folks!
I will be working heavily on this page for the next few weeks. I hope I have not ruffled any feathers here. New info to come, and sources to back up the claims. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathanriley (talk • contribs) 05:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The thrust of this article is not really about Brickwork generally, which should cover all aspects of construction in brick - it's mostly about bricklaying and methods of bonding walls, generally those used in the British Isles. I have no complaint about the quality of the information, which is very good, but I wonder if much of it should be put into a specialised article in its own right, and the Brickwork article be allowed to speak more generally about ways of using bricks as building materials. Peter Bell (talk) 14:14, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Having defined 'beds', 'header faces' and 'stretcher faces' in the preceding section, Terminology, the Orientation section then ignores that terminology and refers confusingly to 'long narrow faces' and the like. Would anyone object if I edit the section? 108.171.128.180 (talk) 10:08, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Have a look at the brick wall in this picture. It is typical of brick walls that you see in Guangdong Province in southern China (this scene was on Guangzhou's northeastern outskirts, near Longdong (龙洞) in the Tianhe District). Despite what you might think at first glance, all the bricks are the same size and shape. There seems to be an alternation between two courses of thin bricks on the one hand, and one course of thick bricks on the other, but the "thick bricks" are really "thin bricks" stood on their sides, and whichever of these two patterns you see on this side of the wall, you can be sure that the other can be seen along that same level on the other side. Shall we call it "Cantonese bond"? I have been to several parts of China, but I don't think that I have seen this style of brickwork outside Guangdong — and it may be a good job that I haven't, for it seems to me that walls built using this style of brickwork get blown down by the wind with annoying regularity. It was one such incident that occasioned this photo; I stepped through a yawning great gap in the school wall to take this shot. I otherwise seldom visited that spot out behind the school where I then worked.
Does anybody know about "Cantonese" bricklaying? Styles of bricklaying from outside the Western World don't seem to be given very much coverage in this article, and this "Cantonese bond" might be a good place to start on that.
Just an idea. Kelisi (talk) 20:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]