Talk:Murder of Bobbie Jo Stinnett
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299859,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.227.226.243 (talk) 07:34, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The corresponding biographic article for Lisa K. Montgomery needs to be expanded. Areas that need coverage include Lisa Montgomery's early life, the motivation for the attack, details of the murder/arrest/trial, and current events as they unfold. If anyone is doing research on Bobbie Jo Stinnett, please take a moment and help improve the Lisa K. Montgomery article. Thanks! -- Biobaby89 20:59, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There was also an excellent and informative book published by M. William Phelps in 2006 about the case titled /Murder in the Heartland/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.59.174.46 (talk) 21:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 04:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I feel that this should be merged with the Lisa M. Montgomery page. Neither are quite notable in and of themselves. I would imagine that that a single page for the crime itself such as Death of Bobby Jo Stinnett would be most appropriate.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 23:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage of the recent execution of the perpetrator in this case has highlighted that the penalty was carried out by the federal government. But it's not entirely clearly to me why this was prosecuted by the federal government in the first place, instead of by the state of Missouri. Is it because Montgomery lived over the border in Kansas, and took the baby there after the murder? Is it the crossing of a state line with a captive that brings a crime like this under federal jurisdiction? Beorhtwulf (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I’m sure I’ll be sorry I asked, but as a matter of policy what is the justification for including unverified speculation in the Murder_of_Bobbie_Jo_Stinnett#Perpetrator section? Innisfree987 (talk) 02:53, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This may be semantics but Montgomery was never convicted of murder specifically, she was convicted of “kidnapping resulting in death”. According to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (violence and deaths), a page should only be titled “Murder of” if there’s a murder conviction. Should the article be renamed to fit these conventions? TheXuitts (talk) 01:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Editors should only resort to this flowchart when such efforts fail or a consensus cannot be reached on what the COMMONNAME is from among the reliable secondary sources.The COMMONNAME in this case is clearly "Murder." Some1 (talk) 02:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are some factual and clarity issues in the trial section of this article, and possibly the Perpetrator section as well. It seems to stem from using op eds like this one, which uncritically presents the claims of Montgomery's family, those of her appeal lawyers, and those of private individuals uninvolved in the investigation or trial, made years after the trial, as if they constituted exculpatory evidence that was omitted from trial. Claims from these articles are being misleadingly included in the section on the trial as if they played or ought to have played a role in the trial. It's very confusing. I didn't put it together until I had spent 45 minutes reading the sources, so I can only imagine what most people skimming this page are going to think. Aminomancer (talk) 10:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]