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If he retired on August 1, 1990 (in body) how could he have served from 1945-1991 (in infobox)?PumpkinSky talk 01:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
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For defending my user talk page when I did not have internet and answeing with the comment "But please pursue filing some kind of complaint. I think this process will be educational." (t) Josve05a (c) 13:33, 12 July 2013 (UTC) |
He's back... (t) Josve05a (c) 21:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help with Sejm of Congress Poland article, have some traditional Polish cake, makowiec! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC) |
Hi, Chris. Thanks for your assistance in requesting semi-protection for the zakir naik article. I appreciate the help that you and other editors provide for newbies like me :) GiggsIsLegend (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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Jianhui67 (talk) 14:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
You referred to a complaint made about me alleging edit warring. I can't find the complaint though I used the search function. But it is bogus. Roman Catholics are attempting to force their POV on Wikipedia, violating NPOV. They insist on calling the Roman Catholic Church "The Catholic Church" and "The Church." I merely attempted to change such entries to Roman Catholic Church. After I made an edit, one of them reverted it. Then I counter reverted it. Then my counter revert was reverted again by one of them. Now who is edit warring? (EnochBethany (talk) 14:59, 25 July 2013 (UTC))
My edit on the Schaub page was not vandalism it is the weigh in result from his last fight. 100.40.27.236 (talk) 20:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
You're right next time i will provide a reference sorry for the inconvenience. 100.40.27.236 (talk) 20:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for suggesting me to sign up for Counter Vandalism Academy. I didn't know there was such academy at first until you told me that. I have signed up for the course. Jianhui67 (talk) 14:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC) |
You should probably discuss first before adding those templates --Երևանցի talk 02:44, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Just a quick thank you, Mr. Troutman. After finding the marriage reference on IMBD, usually a reputable source when it come to actors and film, I added it to Nat's wiki page. I soon noticed, however, that I couldn't find it anywhere else. I wasn't comfortable with leaving it on her page, but before I could delete my own edit, you did it for me. A good lesson. Thanks again. Bshawnp Bshawnp (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
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August 2013 |
From the Editor
Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.
The project has another featured picture, The ruins of Holyrood Chapel, a digitisation of an oil-on-canvas painting. Our top-importance article, Jesus, has been nominated for Featured Article status, the discussion can be seen here; Knights of Colombus has also been nominated as a FAC.
Ecgbert (bishop) and Church architecture in Scotland have both this month achieved Good Article status.
Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including Hinckley Priory, Little Chapel, St Peter's Church, Ropsley, Chip Ingram, St John the Evangelist's Church, Corby Glen, Great George Street Congregational Church, St Mary's Church, Walton-on-the-Hill and Bunge church.
Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.
Church of the month
This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.
Membership report
We would like to welcome our newest members, Thechristophermorris, Psmidi and Jchthys. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.
Focus on...
THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.
The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.
From the bookshelf
In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.
Did you know...
Calendar
This month we celebrate the feasts of St Lawrence, St Bernard, and St Augustine.
Help requests
Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.
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We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's Sasata (submissions) currently leads overall, while Pool B's
Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today,
Miyagawa (submissions), with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and
Cwmhiraeth (submissions) have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by
Ealdgyth (submissions), and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by
Piotrus (submissions),
Hawkeye7 (submissions) and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.
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For Chris Troutman. I am an individual. Tcam represents the first letter of each of my family members' names. Myself, my wife, and my 2 children are represented. The word solutions is simply an acknowledgement that as as family we solve problems and find creative ways to live, work, and have fun together. In the future, any edits you make to my talk page will be removed. Tcam solutions (talk) 00:37, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
To Chris Troutman,
117Avenue continues to make irrational and haphazard edits while leaving Tran's page a mess. I reverted his edit, with a written explanation, but he is at it again. I don't want to get into an undo war, I don't have the time. Can you please help. As always, thank you for your efforts. Bshawnp (talk) 03:03, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for you quick response Chris. The proprietary data collection methods used by VDX hold to mathematical modeling standards. There is no conceivable reason why their calculations should be held as unreliable--I've used similar methods in my professional life. But if people who care about the page disagree, I will have to accept it. Thanks again as always. Bshawnp (talk) 04:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Chris,117Avenue is at it again. For the third time, he has left the page a visual mess with his edits. He removed the VDX data and cut out a section on Lamingtons (claiming that it wasn't relevant if you can believe that). He is clearly knows very little about Natalie Tran or about mathematical averages or modeling. His actions are unprofessional. Revert all of his edits and warn him please. Bshawnp (talk) 20:46, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
One other quick point on the VDX matter. Even if the site is self-published, the sophisticated proprietary data modeling program it uses is not. Indeed, the mathematical modeling system employed by VDX is among the data collection processes used on Bloomberg Machines, a hi-tech computer found in most financial offices. I use one regularly. Simply put, a complex data program that can accurately perform averages, compare and compile rankings, while making future projections based on the available information is a serious tool. Bshawnp (talk) 00:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Chris,I decided not to clean up 117Avenues mess to make a point. A day later and the beginning Tran's Popularity section still reads like this:
As of August 2013 Tran has 311 videos available on her YouTube channel.</ref name"communitychannel"> Natalie created her first video on 12September 2006.</ref name"communitychannel">[6]
Take a look for yourself. Content aside, I don't think people who visit the page will find that very attractive. 117Avenue clearly doesn't care. Bshawnp (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Chris, Hope all is well. I'm curious if there was a verdict on VDX use? I haven't edited Nat's page since those stats were taken down and I've decided that it's simply to much work to keep up regular updates only to see those efforts undermined. I'm busy enough as it is. Still, I would much rather afford the thousands of readers who visit the page with the most current information. Best as always. Bshawnp (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you that you previously recommended me to CVUA. I have graduated and gotten rollback and reviewer rights. Once again, thank you very much. Jianhui67 Talk 11:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC) |
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This year's final is upon us. Our final eight, in order of last round's score, are:
We say goodbye to eight great participants who did not qualify for the final: Piotrus (submissions),
Figureskatingfan (submissions),
ThaddeusB (submissions),
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Status (submissions),
Ed! (submissions),
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This last month has seen some incredible contributions; for instance, Cwmhiraeth's Starfish and Ealdgyth's Battle of Hastings—two highly important, highly viewed pages—made it to featured article status. It would be all too easy to focus solely on these stunning achievements at the expense of those participants working in lower-scoring areas, when in fact all WikiCup participants are doing excellent work. A mention of everything done is impossible, but here are a few: Last round saw the completion of several good topics (on the 1958, 1959 and 1962 Atlantic hurricane seasons) to which 12george1 had contributed. Calvin999 saw "S&M" (song), on which he has been working for several years, through to featured article status on its tenth try. Figureskatingfan continued towards her goal of a broad featured/good topic on Maya Angelou, with two featured and four good articles. ThaddeusB contributed significantly to over 20 articles which appeared on the main page's "in the news" section. Adam Cuerden continued to restore a large number of historical images, resulting in over a dozen FP credits this round alone. The WikiCup is not just about top-importance featured articles, and the work of all of these users is worthy of commendation.
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The article Rudy Boesch you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Rudy Boesch for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Wasted Time R -- Wasted Time R (talk) 16:10, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome! HouseOfArtaxiad (talk) 16:00, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Chris!!
I know you were working with Kasey last semester to on-board as a Campus Ambassador, but I wasn't sure if you were working with Greta Munger and her psych class yet. Have you been working with Greta, and/or would you like me to put you in touch with her? Hope things are great! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 22:47, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Re: 24th Expeditionary Air Support Operations Squadron.
Conerning my edit for the above article, the "B-class" criteria (and/or assessment) is not required for a "Stub" assessment. I'm unaware how long you have not edited a "B-class" assessment was unfortunately you are the second person who is way behind in the "B-class" is not valid within the "Stub" assessment for WP:Military History. Simply, it is a waste of space. Adamdaley (talk) 05:29, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, just a heads up to let you know that I changed the formatting of your vote so that Pedro was no longer wikilinked. There's apparently a bug in the report so it thought Pedro had voted twice. Hope you don't mind. I'll also report the bug.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:26, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
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cleanup
Thank you for quality articles such as Rudy Boesch, for "beginning the cleanup" and making the small steps in the right direction, - you are an awesome Wikipedian! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Chris troutman. I'm not sure how to use Reflinks to fix link rot on articles. Will you teach me how to do so? Thanks. Jianhui67 Talk 12:56, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
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In 30 days, we will know the identity of our 2013 WikiCup champion. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) currently leads; if that lead is held, she will become the first person to have won the WikiCup twice.
Sasata (submissions),
Hawkeye7 (submissions)—who has never participated in the competition before—and
Casliber (submissions) follow. The majority of points in this round have come from a mix of good articles and bonus points. This final round is seeing contributions to a number of highly important topics; recent submissions include Phoenix (constellation) (FA by Casliber), Ernest Lawrence (GA by Hawkeye7), Pinniped, and red fox (both GAs by Sasata).
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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Ernest C. Brace you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of PocklingtonDan -- PocklingtonDan (talk) 16:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Chris, belated thanks for your Sept 19 contribution to the discussion I started on the talk page for Thomas More. Can I respectfully ask you to consider whether the following comment, which you addressed to me, is appropriate: "Perhaps you should learn about Wikipedia before you attempt further edits. It is not the job of editors to philosophize about St. Thomas More". I hope that if you reflect on that you'll see that it's a lecture I don't need. Firstly, you're entirely mistaken that I have "philosophized" about More or anyone else. As I've explained on the More talk page, I'm proposing to delete opinionated and unsourced material, not add anything (let alone my own research). But on a more personal note (and this is why I decided to leave this message on your page, rather than confuse the More talk page still further) I have to say I resent your suggestion that I'm attempting to publish original material. I don't need you to draw my attention to Wikipedia's prohibition on original material, indeed if you had taken the trouble to read my submission on the talk page (there's no obligation on you to do so but since you were commenting on what I'd written I thought you might have) you'd have seen that I had already linked to the selfsame prohibition.
In short, if you think I'm trying to publish original material then please substantiate that accusation, otherwise I'd be grateful if you would withdraw it. As someone who considers himself a conscientious Wikipedia editor, I take that accusation personally, and I'd very much like it to be retracted. Thank you.Brooklyn Eagle (talk) 00:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the trouble to reply. I don't recall much of what I edited on the Catherine of Aragon page. From memory, there were some gushing assessments of her beauty and virtue, including a line from one of Shakespeare's plays that had been quoted as if it were the poet's personal view, when in fact it was uttered by one of his characters (a very different thing). I don't recall any of the edits I made on that page being reverted or causing any controversy. Even if they had been, I'm not sure I understand the relevance of my past editing history to the current discussion. With respect, it seems like you're trawling my history for evidence of a slip-up. Assuming I've made a mistake (don't we all?) are you planning to keep bringing it up or is it possible that my future edits might be treated on their own merits?
Coming back to the matter at hand, could you please clarify exactly what "original research" you think I have tried to publish in the Thomas More article? As you know, that's a serious accusation to level at any Wikipedia editor. So I'd appreciate it if you could substantiate it or withdraw it. I'm pretty sure you'll discover that I haven't added, or even attempted to add, a single word to that page. I have suggested removing some opinionated and unsourced material, and if you disagree with that suggestion then of course that's your right - indeed I'm genuinely interested to hear why (I'm particularly looking forward to someone explaining what on earth unsourced counterfactual speculation is doing in a Wikipedia article) - but none of that constitutes an attempt to publish "original research". I'd be grateful if you could acknowledge that.
In respect of the Thomas More article, as you say, we can leave the details for the More talk page. But just to tackle briefly what you say above, again you seem to be slightly confused. The only "opinions" I've raised about More have been on the talk page, and even they have been largely in response to points raised by other Wikipedians. I have NOT attempted to insert any opinions into the article itself. If you think I have, then please tell me what those opinions are and when precisely I tried to insert them into the article. (Incidentally, you're also mistaken to think that I edited the Catherine of Aragon page according to my opinions - I haven't the slightest idea whether she was beautiful or virtuous, so whether or not you agree with any edits I made to that page, I'd appreciate if you could acknowledge that they had nothing whatsoever to do with my own personal views.)
PS No, I'm not suggesting that anyone should prove the sky is blue. I'm suggesting that when a contributor attempts to fathom the motives of a person who died nearly 500 years ago, that contributor should substantiate that claim with reference to some sort of source, preferably a source that doesn't directly contradict said claim. I'm sure you can see that's not the same as asking someone to prove the sky is blue.
Brooklyn Eagle (talk) 01:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Chris, you seem busy (congratulations on the award), so whilst in an ideal world I would of course be grateful if you could address all the questions I've raised above, I'll settle for just one question. Namely the one I'm particularly concerned about, the one regarding original research. If you believe I have tried to add original research to the Thomas More article, please substantiate that accusation. If not, please withdraw it. Many thanks, much appreciated.Brooklyn Eagle (talk) 23:55, 11 October 2013 (UTC)