Talk:2 euro commemorative coins/Archive 1
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Hello Nightstallion,A rather good item about the two euro commemorative coins.
Regards. Marc --Flafla89 19:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Everything looks good. To me tho, motif describes an ongoing theme throughout a set. I would use design, or such. But since this is the euro, maybe motif is a more european definition. The name...Euro commemorative coins(2E)or(E2)(the E is euro symbol, just didn't want to look up how to do it :) or E2 commemorative coins. Other than that, it's nice. :) Joe I 00:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Great page. Maybe under volume you could change "mio" because that doesn't realy look like "million" if that's what it's supposed to be. Otherwise everything is to my liking. – Zntrip 02:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Felicitation Nightstallion ! I really appreciate that item on 2 euros commemorative coins. It is one of the best I have ever seen on the net. Marc --Flafla89 19:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Cool article. Always curious bout other nation's currency. --Madchester 03:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Excellent article! Thanks for taking the time to explain what's being pictured on each of the coins. Congratulations as well on gaining FA status. --Dmleach 13:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
The introductory paragraph contains the text "€2 euro coin". Isn't that redundant? Shouldn't it be either "€2 coin" or "2 euro coin"? Markkawika 08:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Do you think that the list of the coins should be by the day they came out? – Zntrip 18:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Well... I guess nobody has anything to say... – Zntrip 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
To clarify: The discussion is not whether to have sections for years or for countries, but whether to sort them by issue date or by country in the year sections. —Nightstallion (?) 06:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Why is this at €2 commemorative coins instead of €2 commemorative coin per naming conventions? Is it because there are multiple different kinds of them? I must assume there's some reason for this to have gotten by all the FA reviewers. Deco 02:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Mh. Well, we can, of course, move it, but then euro coins would also have to be moved. I think we should wait with this until it's not FAotD any longer, shouldn't we? —Nightstallion (?) 13:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Today's featured picture features an interesting osbcenity. While I was the one that uploaded it, I did create it at the request of another user who uploaded a newspaper clip of the same thing. —This user has left wikipedia 05:04 2006-01-27
I was looking at this article and some of the linked ones and got to wondering how it is determined how many coins each country can make and possible issues that may exist when different countries mint the same curreny, but I didn't find it. I imagine this information must be covered somewhere, and I think it would be useful to some how link the articles.--Paraphelion 10:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
This article was only nominated for FA status 17 days ago. Surely putting it as the main page FA was rather premature?
I'm not especially criticising the article itself (and obviously I'm content to have subject matter from my area feature on the main page), but it does surely suggest lax standards in the choosing of articles for the main page.
zoney ♣ talk 13:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Already mentioned on the main page, too: Firefox 1.0.4 on Mac OSX can't see the "eurosymbol" in this article. Strangely enough, it DOES appear in the title bar for the page! I get Editing Talk:(Eurosymbol)2 ... on the title bar at the top of the brower, but (space)2... in the article itself.
The heads of e.g. Henri, GD of Luxembourg are described as facing left, but are turned toward the right of the image. Is there some terminological convention in numismatics that is being used? If so, perhaps a note to explain this, or a link to a more general explanatory article on numismatic terms, would be useful. --80.69.0.186 14:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I haven't seen one of these coins "for real", but from the image it looks as though the map contains the same omission that appeared in another EU-published map - i.e. they've left Wales off the UK! Can anyone confirm this from a real coin? Jon Rob 14:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
It is a real shame for Wikipedia to make an article featured, for everyone to read, and then protect it. What a slap in the face of Wikipedia's goals and reputation.
Good choice, but it was to be expected of such a controversial issue like commemorative coinage.--Paraphelion 00:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Description: On the left side of the centre part of the coin, the effigy of Grand Duke Henri is depicted (looking to the left)
Isn't he looking to the right, not the left? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dblandford (talk • contribs) . 29 January 2006, 22:11 (UTC)
Well, we should correct the orientations on practically all coin descriptions in the page, then. I can do that, if you like.--Iago4096 05:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid, you did get me confused in the end... So which way is correct? People on the coin looking left are looking at their left, right? But everything else on the right side of the coin is on our right side as we look at the coin? So it is not as it is with coats of arms? Please explain...--Iago4096 17:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
It is as with coats of arms; everything on the "left" of the coin is on "their" left. Hope I've explained it now... ^_^; Sorry for the confusion! —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 08:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I have the coin Belgium-Luxembourg Economic Union described in your article and I could upload a picture of the coin. I prefer using pictures of the the actual coins, especially since the picture featured on the page is slightly incorrect regarding the mint symbols at the bottom. My coin is circulated, though. Should I upload it?--Iago4096 05:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
First of all, this page is great. Keep up the good work. A couple of days ago a proposal was made for the joined 2007 2 euro coin. Perhaps it's worth mentioning? There's a picture of it at : http://www.minfin.nl/nl/actueel/nieuwsberichten,2006/07/Europa-doet-voorstel-herdenkingsmunt.htmlPerhaps you find it worth mentioning. BenCastricum 18:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The list would be more interesting if it was sorted by date of issuing. It's already sorted by year, so why not completing the chronology of the list rather than listing by the name of the country? CG 14:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I made an edit awhile back that reversed the directions (left and right) on the Holstentor coin. Please clearly read the text on the cited page (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/c_033/c_03320060209en00050005.pdf), it says the HH (designers initials) are on the right side.
Just wondering, should this be a feature list, rather than a featured article? Todd661 11:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I've changed subheading ===German ''Bundesländer'' series=== to ===German Bundesländer series=== because [[€2 commemorative coins#German ''Bundesländer'' series]] was not being recognised as a wikilink. Is this a MediaWiki bug? jnestorius(talk) 21:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Mh. I'd personally really prefer to leave the info out of the table until the Official Journal of the European Union actually mentions the coin, but I do realise that this would mean that we'd be out-of-date for a little while longer (don't ask me why they take so long this time, though). —Nightstallion (?) 12:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Nightstallion I don't understand why you have a problem with the name Magdeburg Cathedral...?? "Cathedral of Magdeburg" may very well be the title of an image or even an article.. BUT that still doesn't make it correct usage.
As an example: we don't use "Abbey of Westminster" or "Cathedral of Durham" as the names of the those places. I'm afraid you are confusing "of" with the German usage of "von", so I have once again changed the reference in the article. By the way, in the same article the Kölner Dom is noted as "Cologne Cathedral" and not "Cathedral of Cologne" ... shame really as it might have smelt quite nice :-)--IsarSteve 20:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The issued dates. I didn't make any changes to the dates. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Upon the suggestion of Nightstallion, I have updated the release dates for many of the coins. Also, there is now some new information regarding the German commemorative coins in the Bundeländer Series for 2008 and 2009.
There is a question about three release dates which I have brought to Nightstallion's attention on his talk page.
Theeuro 08:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
The original entry was this:PACTVM ROMANVM QVINQVAGENARIVM, EUROPEA, BELGIQUE–BELGIE–BELGIEN
It was changed to this:
The image in nature and scope disrupts the conventions of the article, so I changed it to this:PACTVM ROMANVM QVINQVAGENARIVM, EUROPÆ
I think this is more to the original intent and 'spirit' of the design inscription.
If there is any way to re-create the A over the E in such a way which excludes an image, but incorporates the Latin language intent with reagrd to the AE ligature.
Until then, I'm inclined to leave the original entry as is because it is the closest way to represent the actual inscription.
Any thoughts?
—Theeuro 21:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Could someone be so nice as to reupload images for Finland (04, 05, 06) Italy (06), San Marino (06) and the general image for the Rome Treaty coin? They've been deleted on the commons. —Nightstallion (?) 07:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
http://www.ibiblio.org/theeuro/files/files.c2e/2e.2007.06.finland.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by SquallLeonhart ITA (talk • contribs) 20:28, 28 May 2007
should we add it?
--Theeuro 12:51, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it worth noting that Hungary has issued a 50 forint coin that looks very similar to the TOR coins? [1] --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 09:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
—Nightstallion (?) 14:18, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I just saw the revert that happened a week ago. I began using Inkscape a few days ago for editing svg. The software can be found at download.com and it's free. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib)
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The Fair use notifications. --Theeuro 07:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
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I put Slovakia to the text because tey will probably join the eurozone in 2009. — [Unsigned comment added by 85.66.224.202 (talk • contribs).]
Please, help me, take the picture to Slovenia to the 2008 coinage, I can't. €2_commemorative_coin_Slovenia_2008.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.66.224.202 (talk) 17:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you the information! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.66.224.202 (talk) 17:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
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I took care of these already. --Theeuro (talk) 06:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand the change done on 17:41, 1 December 2007. Could this be explained on the page? Vincent Lefèvre (talk) 22:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
There is an issue regarding the fixed width vs. image centering in the article. There is a fixed width present in the image column of 160px. The purpose for this is due to the fact that the issue years are divided into individual sections and there would be an inconsistent width between sections for each of the images. The images themselves are set to a width of 150px, leaving 10px in the cell, within which the image then centers because of the <center> tag. Example:
Image | Country | Feature | Volume | Date |
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San Marino | Bartolomeo Borghesi | 110,000 coins | 15 December 2004[1] |
As the image is now centered, there is a consistent 5px on either side of all images in the article no matter the content in the other portions of the table row. That the columns are fixed at a width of 160px has nothing whatever to do with the alignment of the image in the column. This has been the standard since the article attained Featured Article status.
Cheers.The € • T/C 11:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Guys (Nightstallion, TheEuro),I think I finally did it. I changed only the first table (2004 coins). Please let me know if it does look good or not on your computers. It definitely looks better on mine, like in this sample (very wide monitor):File:Table centering fixed.JPGIf you are OK with the current view, I will change all other tables. Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
How about making the table cell containing the picture span 2 rows? This would make the description line appear right to the picture and make the page more compact and less white-spacey if you understand what I mean. (add rowspan=2 to width=160 to see the effect) BenCastricum (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 09:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
the layout has been chosen, someon add please --SquallLeonhart_ITA (talk) 18:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Should there be a different subsection for these issues? I know there is some degree of continuity having the coins organized by order of release, however, perhaps the common issues can go at the bottom of the list? Only because if someone were to edit 2007 for example, the entire list will load and it makes editing something of a difficult process. Just a suggestion... Cheers. The € • T/C 17:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
May I suggest to archive old talks on this page? Is getting quite long ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 01:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
I just started a new article (Euro gold and silver commemorative coins), and planning to work on it every day little by little. Would it be OK if I reference it somewhere in this article? I have made a reference back already ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 02:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion between St. Michael's Church in Hildesheim and St. Andrew's Church in Hildesheim (in the same section both names are shown). Is it possible to verify this fact, and if feasible, reference it? Then there will be no doubt. Miguel.mateo (talk) 14:19, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I searched all over the web and could not find any source. Apologies for removing it without asking first. Can you tell me any reference to this fact? Thanks! Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I heard from a very good source that Monaco's commemorative for this year has been cancelled due to the high prices that Price Kelly's 2007 coin took. I quickly searched on the web but found nothing substantial, except this site: http://english.euronotes.be/info.htm#germany08 (go down to see Monaco's comment). Any idea if this is true? Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
This seems to be more a list than an article. Does this sound fair? - Tbsdy lives (talk) 08:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure the reason its a featured article is because it fits the Featured article criteria, I also see no reason why it cannot be a featured list as long as it fits the Featured list criteria.I'm not sure however, that an article can be both a featured list & a feature Article but I have not seen any rule that prevents this.Kevin hipwell (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
This has been discussed numerous times, and the consensus has been that it's more an article than just a list simply be the amount of content and descriptions. —Nightstallion 16:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
... I hope this helps to read the new talk topics. Miguel.mateo (talk) 04:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I suggest that instead of continuing listing all the commemorative coins in one page instead they should be sorted by years in a table then the user choose the year and the commemorative coins of that year will be shown. Like this the page is becoming extensively long.--Melitikus (talk) 10:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
On the article the release date for the Italian commemorative €2 coin is April,This has also been said to be the release date of the San Marino €2 2008.Are you sure this is correct?The Royal Scandinavian Mint have said that the release date for Italy is October & for San Marino its May.Also the AASFN Philatelic & Numismatic Official Website Appears to back up the San Marino claim as the coin will not be on sale until 20th May.I have not seen either the San Marino or the Italian commemorative €2 on sale,If the current release date of April is true it should be available.Kevin hipwell (talk) 00:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
The San Marino 2 euro Comm Coin was issued on the 20th May, according to http://www.aasfn.sm/english/english.htm --Melitikus (talk) 18:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I added a link to a euro related forum, this forum is not commercial and the sole intention is to gather all the euro collectors in one place – is that okey?--Melitikus (talk) 07:46, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
seems this is going to be the French Comm Coin for this yearhttp://www.zwei-euro.com/2-euro/frankreich/2008/gedenkmuenze.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melitikus (talk • contribs) 20:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Dear all,
Is Itally 2008 released as written in the article? I am not sure but heard rumors it was postponed until September ...
Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
seems this is going to be - nice coinhttp://p2.forumforfree.com/viewtopic.php?p=219&mforum=melitikus#219 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melitikus (talk • contribs) 18:39, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
First, apologies for my bad edit before, I lost my internet connection right at the moment of doing the edit and the result was garbage being sent out.
I want to discuss about a recent edit, removing all <sup>. As far as I am aware off, this is not a hard standard, and (at least for me) the numbers are by far easier to read. The only thing against is that people need a bit of knowledge of HTML when doing edits; but that does not apply to articles like this one, when a set of editors has been contributing and they have demonstrated the proper use of HTML in the past.
Please let me know if I am wrong on this one. Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 11:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
under the picture of the new 2 Euro coins theres written that all the €2 comm minted in 2007 onwards depict this new map- as far as i know that is not true as there is some countries that switched in 2008 e.g. San Marino--Melitikus (talk) 19:46, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
The recent changes for this issue were removed due to lack of verifiable sources (to avoid a 'citation needed' tag) and the official release has not yet been published by the OJ. The structure of the information was not consistent with the article's established structure. Cheers. The € • T/C 20:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I notice that one date in the lead and three in the 2009 coinage use the yyyy-mm-dd format. Should these not be change to match the Month dd, yyyy one which is used in the rest of the article, mainly as dates for each coin. Thanks Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear fellow contributors
MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for the raw formatting, irrespective of whether a date is autoformatted or not). MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this.
There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:
Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. Does anyone object if I remove it from the main text in a few days’ time on a trial basis? The original input formatting would be seen by all WPians, not just the huge number of visitors; it would be plain, unobtrusive text, which would give greater prominence to the high-value links. Tony (talk) 14:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I do not think so. the article says yes but it also says October in releasing date. Contradiction there.
Thanks,Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The following explanation is given in both a note and a footnote:
I know that this is true in heraldry. If you consider the historic use of arms, it makes some kind of sense to have this convention about left and right interpreted from the bearer's point of view when talking about coats of arms.
I did not know that the same convention is used in numismatics. Here on this Wikipedia article is the first time I have seen the heraldic convention applied to coins. There has never been a use where coins have a bearer, this convention makes no sense when describing coins.
Furthermore, the official descriptions in the Official Journal of the European Communities/Union do not follow this convention.
For example: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2007/c_302/c_30220071214en00070007.pdf (there are many more examples)
The coin's inner section shows an effigy of His Majesty Albert II, King of the Belgians, in profile facing to the left. To the right of this, the royal monogram is displayed and, below it, the indication of the country ‘BE’. Underneath the effigy, the signature mark of the Master of the Mint is displayed on the left and the mint mark on the right, either side of the year. The outer ring of the coin depicts the twelve stars of the European flag.
In this description, left and right are clearly the viewer's left and right, not heraldic left and right.
Unless someone can prove the heraldic convention is actually used regularly in numismatics (which I doubt), left and right should be used from the viewer's point of view (and the note and footnote dropped).
— Adhemar (talk) 09:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
As a numismatist I would like to add weight to the comment that heraldic notions of direction are NEVER used in numismatics. This is true of all descriptions used in any numismatic litterature referring to coins of any age. Thus, from a numismatists point of view the descriptions given here are plainly wrong. If they were provided to any numismatist without the illustrations and he was asked to reproduce the image, his or her drawings would be the mirror image of the real thing.
(Getas75 (talk) 20:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC))
The french version of this article has images of the edges, that would be interesting to add. Cheers OboeCrack (talk) 22:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
is it still too early to start the 2010 list? there are already some officially announced issues --Melitikus (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Does "yes" mean that the coin (a) will be released, or (b) already is released? If (a) is applied for the table, Slovenia should be not marked as "yes". If (b) is applied, also Belgium, France, Portugal, San Marino and Vatican City should be marked as "yes". All this countries have already announced themes and, except for Vatican, designs of their future coins. ~ Illioplius (talk) 18:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I think that issue column for 2011 should be added and the ToR and EMU columns should be separated in some way.~ Illioplius (talk) 08:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
dont you think that the page is getting too long?dont you think it would be a better idea to keep this page as an introductory article and then have links to each yeareg 2004, 2005, 2006 ....--Melitikus (talk) 15:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
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Unlike with dollar currency, which is indeed written as $2, the € sign is supposed to be written after the number.Differenxe (talk) 06:21, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
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