Talk:Battle of Kaniów

Latest comment: 6 years ago by 156.57.152.174 in topic False Citations and ridiculous claims
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Zierhold

I cannot find the first name of German general Zierhold. Perhaps it is in German language sources? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

  • Actually its Zierold. Franz Hermann Zierold ...GELongstreet (talk) 02:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Surrender?

How did we get from "honorable capitulation" to "[h]alf of the Polish survivors were arrested and sent to prisoner of war camps, but the others managed to escape"? —Ed (talkcontribs) 23:21, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

If this "honorable capitulation" involved the Polish soldiers getting sent to POW camps, then just say that; they weren't 'arrested' in any sense of the word, they just surrendered (if what I say is true). —Ed (talkcontribs) 23:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Inconsistency in sources? I tried to find more about it but the detailed sources don't seem to be online. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 06:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Casualties

It is said that the casualties in the battle section casualties were high on both sides and is confirmed in the infobox with 1,000 dead or wounded Polish. Later it is said in the aftermath section that only 150 Poles were killed or wounded. This is quite a difference and needs to be standardized. --Molestash 21:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

B-class

Passed for WPPOLAND confirming a prior WPMILHIST review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:35, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Moveing

Any controversial moves should be done via WP:RM. It might be the case that "Battle of Kaniv" is the appropriate name for this article - that is, that is how it is primarily described in reliable English sources. I do realize that the town is in Ukraine but that doesn't automatically translate into reliable sources using that designation, especially since this was a battle between Polish and German forces. So it could go either way, but WP:RM is the way to do it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 20:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

As Volunteer Marek said, we should use any controversial move via WP:RM. Kmicic (talk) 10:27, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

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False Citations and ridiculous claims

Who added the 2nd reference, Jacek Woyno's MATERIAŁY ARCHIWALNE DO DZIEJ”W POLSKICH FORMACJI WOJSKOWYCH W ROSJI? The reference says almost nothing of what is claimed in this article and directly cited to it. The 2nd, 5th, 7th, and 8th citations are not found in the source at all, and the 4th and 9th citations of said article are either gross misrepresentations of what is stated in the source or outright contradictory to what the source states.

Also, references 4 and 5 can't be very reliable as their claims of Polish losses is ridiculously low. A number of sources state approximately 1000 Polish casualties, the Polish wikipedia states that only one man out of a whole squadron survived the initial assault, that alone is more than "a few dozen". Not to mention there is already a citation earlier in the article stating that both sides suffered heavy losses.

--156.57.152.174 (talk) 01:52, 17 October 2017 (UTC)