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Latest comment: 1 month ago12 comments10 people in discussion
dua lipa isn't english. she's albanian and british from having a british passport. she has no english ancestry or links to english cultural values at all. 31.94.7.148 (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
"English" refers to both citizenship and ethnicity. Even though England is not an independent country, it is a constituent country within the United Kingdom. Some people identify more closely with England specifically than with Britain as a whole. Jargo Nautilus (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
English isn’t a citizenship. English is an ethnicity. Nationality referred to the citizenship of a country. Therefore, Dua Lipa is a British National/citizen, of Albanian descent.
Anyone born in England, Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland makes their citizenship British. Only people with English heritage (I.e. me) are English in blood and British by citizenship.
For example, in Australia, there are the Aboriginals (first peoples of Australia), and then there’s the people that settled there after colonisation. The English are the aboriginals of England. 2001:8003:265E:5D00:CD7D:9C0E:45D3:6B57 (talk) 01:40, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Citizenship and nationality do not perfectly coincide, though it is often challenging to disentangle citizenship, nationality, and ethnicity. In the case of the United Kingdom, although people are British citizens and nationals, there is also regional identification of nationality in the constituent countries.
According to MOS:ETHNICITY, we should take into account regional nationality. British nationality is fairly vague as many, if not most, people have strong claims to regional identity. Because Lipa's biographical and career details are specifically connected to England, "English" is used in the lede. RedBaron12 (talk) 02:21, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Putting her as an “Albanian and English singer” is very misleading. Instead of putting “she is an Albanian singer born in England” or “is a British singer of Albanian descent” putting she is “English” misleads people believing she is both English and Albanian. Dua lipa is very proud of being Albanian, not sure why you can’t change it. Ndndndpo (talk) 15:17, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
I do agree that putting “English and Albanian” is quite misleading as you’d usually put that for people who are mixed with said ethnicities. Itsahardknocklife (talk) 13:55, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
She was literally born and raised in The UK, specifically England. MWRPT (talk) 00:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
That's 100% irrelevant.
Do we know when she was born? Would be nice to include in the first sentence. 2A02:FE1:75:7100:18B7:8E62:38BA:C382 (talk) 23:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
England is a nation just as much as Scotland is. Their union does not invalidate that. Britain is an island, not a nation. 2A00:23C8:8F9F:4801:6042:7349:70C0:2A (talk) 18:36, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
There is no such thing as 'English citizenship' and there is no legal entity called 'English nationality' (although England is, indeed, a nation.) The description should read 'British and Albanian' if it wants to be cast-iron factually and unimpeachable ideologically.
The user who wrote this - "Britain is an island, not a nation" - has missed the further (and only salient) fact i. e. that Britain is a *state*, and thus issues passports and grants legal nationality status. No-one can legally dish out 'English nationality' or an English passport. (Sadly...😁) 2A01:CB19:38F:BD00:FCD7:E582:89CF:F905 (talk) 20:49, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Sadly, indeed.
p.s. and no offence is meant by this but i am not sure the americans and australians above should be telling us English Brits when it is appropriate to allow people to be labelled English. 🤗 2A01:CB19:38F:BD00:FCD7:E582:89CF:F905 (talk) 20:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I regard it as highly offensive that non-Brits should have the brass neck to tell English Brits who is or isn't English. Those commenters display arrogance as well as ignorance. Dua Lipa simply is NOT 'English'. She is British by virtue of holding British nationality.
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Lipa is also an actress. Houdini26 (talk) 22:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done: presuming you want this added to the lede or the infobox, see MOS:ROLEBIOCannolis (talk) 22:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Her detailed background does not flow well her life and career. Respect her roots, just make the context flow from everything she has accomplished as an amazing person on the world 104.15.94.97 (talk) 06:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
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