Talk:Pablo Picasso

Latest comment: 4 months ago by 62.73.69.121 in topic Suicides of his partners
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Can I add a photograph?

I didn't know if this could be added. This is a photo from Picasso's dinner party in April 1973. He went to bed at 3 a.m. and died in his sleep.

https://twitter.com/50YearsAgoLive/status/1644362891900887040/photo/1 2601:603:1A7F:9740:7988:DE60:E98A:6C72 (talk) 15:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence that the photo is either freely licensed or in the public domain? Otherwise, we have to assume that it is restricted by copyright. Cullen328 (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Photographer Ralph Gatti worked for Agence France-Presse. However, I can't determine his citizenship, as well as his death details (if deceased). If he is an American citizen (and has no other citizenship) and has no copyright notice nor registration, then this photo would be in the public domain. Otherwise, we would have to wait for 70 years after Gatti's death to have his photo hosted on Wikimedia Commons. If you have found his citizenship and his death details (if deceased), please reply here. Ishagaturo (talk) 09:16, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Is there any way to let the bot extend or add (if not existed) the copyright expiry template to January 1, 2054 instead of January 1, 2044? The reason for copyright extension is that the Spaniards who died before 1987 like Picasso have life term plus 80 years instead of 70 years. It's time-consuming for me to edit all of his files just to put or extend the copyright expiry date. Thank you if you are considering this kindly. Ishagaturo (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

You should ask that at a noticeboard focused on copyright. All I can find at the moment is Wikipedia:Copyright assistance which does not seem to help. In that case, ask at WP:HELPDESK where your question would best be handled. Wikipedia:Bot requests is available to ask for assistance in automating tasks but there should first be a discussion regarding what it is that you believe should be done. Johnuniq (talk) 04:50, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
I have sent a bot request here: Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 85#Extending copyright expiration date on Pablo Picasso's works from 70 years (January 1, 2044) to 80 years (either April 8, 2053 or January 1, 2054). I hope they respond to my request. Ishagaturo (talk) 09:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Suicides of his partners

'Of the several important women in his life, two – lover Marie-Thèrése Walter and his second wife Jacqueline Roque – died by suicide.'

This seems misleading, especially as it comes immediately after a long paragraph of (rather vague and non-specific) claims to the effect that Picasso mistreated his partners. The impression it creates is that he drove these women to suicide while they were in their respective relationships with him. In fact, both of them committed suicide years after his 1973 death (four in Walter's case and thirteen in Roque's). Walter in particular had rejected his marriage proposal in 1955, almost two decades before his death, and he hadn't been seeing her since then (not to mention that their relationship had ended in 1940). To suggest that their suicides were still somehow his fault after all these years, from beyond the grave, seems ... questionable, to say the least. On top of it all, both of them are reported to have been inclined towards suicide by their missing Picasso too much after his death - surely he can't be blamed for not being immortal! (Not to mention that the premise is dubious, given that one managed to live for thirteen years without him, and the other - for 22 without contact and for 37 if you only count the actual relationship.) And it seems even weirder to list Pablito's suicide after Picasso's funeral as another death that Picasso was responsible for in view of the surrounding circumstances that the article itself points out. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2024 (UTC)