Talk:Raphael

Should we change this short description to "Italian painter and architect (1483–1520)" based on Wikidata, by inclusion of dates if needed. 112.204.220.67 (talk) 04:44, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I've no problem with that, although short descriptions don't usually include dates in my experience. Johnbod (talk) 13:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@Johnbod: It's more better with dates if lifetime is most important, not just a weird century construction. 112.204.220.67 (talk) 00:41, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done, per WP:SDDATES. Ham II (talk) 17:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

I cannot see you have any argument to say my edit is WP:UNDUE. Mentions in art and literature are a normal addition to information on any subject and the a section to include them is hardly unusual. The entries I included are from the most widely read poet of her day and they are in what were then popular publications that are easily accessible on the internet today. She was an innovator, who wrote original poetry in her own unique style, all attributes that are highly valued in today's world. In spite of almost two centuries of misogyny (as is common with female authors) and, until recently, a complete lack of scholarship (other than Sarah Sheppard, 1841) she is today quite popular on poetry websites and is at least in the top 200 poets.Ignorance is not a reason for quoting UNDUE and surely it is not the aim of wikipedia, any more than misogyny.Esme Shepherd (talk) 11:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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