Talk:Richard Wendene

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Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Note that a local history written in 1848 is considered to be superceeded by the Fasti - which are the "go to" for ecclesiastical tenure and information in medieval English history. A 1971 source will always be much more authoritative than an 1848 source, especially when they conflict. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:04, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

The source for "official of the bishop" states that he was "Bp.'s official and rector of Bromley" - which means he was an official of the bishop. Probably a clerk who did assorted jobs for the bishop. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:38, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

NO. The source does NOT state uniequivically that he was from the place in Essex, merely that he possibly was from. Nor is anything said about him entering "holy orders" in the Fasti - so inserting that statement is inaccurate - he may have entered holy orders before his appointment to Bromly, but he may have entered them afterwards too - the source says nothing about that. Nor do we use primary sources such as digitized manuscripts from the British Library as sources. Nor does the Handbook say he died in Kent. You cannot just add information in without making sure that the sources given support the information. Please revert yourself. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to revert these additions. Apart from my trust in Ealdgyth's scholarship, I cannot countenance "hailed from" as an Americanism in an article like this one. --John (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Not Bishop of Bangor

Latest comment: 9 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Richard Young (bishop of Rochester) was also the Bishop of Bangor. Not this bishop! Anglicanus (talk) 16:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Neither the Fasti nor the Handbook make any connection between this bishop and a "richard" who was bishop of Bangor. I agree. And the supposed source given on the Bishop of Bangor page (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk here does not support this either...the "bangor" is crossed OUT which would imply that it was wrong. We don't interpret primary sources on Wikipedia either - we use secondary sources - which is what the Handbook and Fasti are. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

As further - the ODNB entry for this Richard states that he basically spent his entire career in the Rochester diocese. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:55, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Quite right. I also did a web search and could find no evidence outside of this article for a Richard Wendene or a Richard de Wendene ever being a Bishop of Bangor. Unfortunately some editors often gets their facts in a knot together with a metaphorical garment. Anglicanus (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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