Talk:Robert Rozier

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bringingthewood in topic U. S.
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WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 18:06, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

In both the serial killer categories and mass murderer category?

I came across this article because of this edit via WP:STiki. I was going to revert the IP because people commonly misunderstand what a serial killer is, and think that the term applies to anyone who has killed two or more people, but then I decided to look at the External links section of the article. I see that Rozier is currently placed in Category:American serial killers, Category:Male serial killers and Category:American mass murderers. Given that WikiOriginal-9, who has edited the Robert Rozier article, is more loose with the term serial killer than experts on the psychology of serial killers are, I am not surprised that Rozier is in the serial killer categories. But I fail to see why he is also in the mass murderer category. Being a mass murderer is not the same thing as being a serial killer; the Serial killer and Mass murder articles are clear on that. If they were the same thing, we would not have separate articles for them. Flyer22 (talk) 04:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Flyer22 He's not a mass murderer, don't know why that's there lol, Thanks. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 02:28, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
At least you removed it. Flyer22 (talk) 04:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

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U. S.

Hi Fourthords

NFL players have U.S. ... even murderers such as Dahmer, Bundy and Gacy have U.S.

Just wondering why this page do I get such feedback. I'm not going to get into all the ins and outs of Wikipedia, rules and wording etc.

I'm hoping that in a few months Robert Rozier isn't the only former NFL player left. Many editors are doing what I'm going. Hundreds a day.

Believe me, I'm not here to aggravate you.

Thank you for hearing me out. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:04, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

When you first added the nation to the infobox at Robert Rozier, saying Country of birth, I was susprised it wasn't there already and appreciated its inclusion. However, I changed "U.S." to "<br /> United States" to avoid having only two characters on their own after the line-break; it's strictly an aesthetic improvement, not content. You reverted it back to "U.S.", referring to consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League about the implementation of {{infobox NFL biography}}.
However, this article isn't even using the biographic fields of the NFL infobox (because the six whole games Rozier played is far less relevant to the biography than his criminality), so that WikiProject consensus is moot. Furthermore, it's still undesirable to have an entire line-height of the infobox devoted to just two characters. That's why I replaced the "<br /> United States", saying - abbreviation for single line of {{infobox person}} (discussing at Talk:Robert Rozier or Template talk:infobox person if necessary). Instead you brought the discussion to to my user page, so I moved it IAW WP:TALKFORK.
Ideally, I'd like to keep the |birth_place= variable to one line, but I'm unsure about the piping of "Alaska Territory" to just "Alaska", so I've asked around. If it winds up needing to be two lines though, I'm thinking you'll be satisfied with [[Anchorage]],<br />[[Territory of Alaska]], U.S., even though {{infobox person}} doesn't care either way. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 01:04, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
I see what you mean with one line and honestly, I'm not going to touch it going forward.
Me being satisfied is no big deal. It's just when I saw high profile celebrities (good and bad) having U.S., I thought that might be the way to go. United States looks good. I'm glad I didn't touch "Alaska Territory" -- that is a unique look.
Me bringing it to your user page was only to keep it on a personal level. I wasn't sure what you might say. No need for others to chime in and make something out of nothing. Know what I mean?
Glad this all worked out and thank you very much for the discussion. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)