Template talk:Infobox comedian

I propose to convert this template to a wrapper of {{Infobox person}}. Code @ {{Infobox comedian/sandbox}} and {{Infobox comedian/testcases}}. Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 07:31, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Ping @Frietjes:@SMcCandlish:@Zyxw:@MSGJ:@Mr. Stradivarius:@Pigsonthewing:@Thumperward:@FlightTime:Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 04:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but this is a bad idea. The template currently has special microformat markup (| aboveclass = {{#if:{{{Current_members|}}}{{{current_members|}}}{{{Past_members|}}}{{{past_members|}}}|fn org|fn}}) for duos and other groups of comedians); which Infobox person does not have. (Incidentally, your test case page does not include such a case.) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:31, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

(Sorry for the necro, but I was about to ask the same thing, and didn't want to make more noise)

I think this is an argument for making Infobox:Comedy_Group a thing. The idea of infoboxes is to allow a single tweak to be carried over to all pages, and to make it easy for robots to pull out information they want. Making this a completely distinct template leads to duplicated work.

It really doesn't make sense to classify groups of comedians and single comedians under the same infobox in the first place. Users of this infobox that describe multiple comedy groups should be reworked: comedian is a singular noun, it doesn't make sense for it to be used for groups. Users who are describing a single person can continue to use this template, or maybe should just be moved to the generic person template.

The reason I bring this all up is because Greg Davies currently uses the comedian infobox, and his height is notable. Thus, I'd like to add it to the infobox, but because Comedian is a different box, I can't. I'm going to move the page over to a person infobox, since the fields added by Comedian are easily swapped over Calumapplepie (talk) 21:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Besides the issue which Andy pointed out, the /sandbox version is missing some parameters which currently exist in the main template: misc, relatives, pre-nominals, parents, memorials, domesticpartner, notable_work, and pseudonym. In addition, the /sandbox contains some parameters which need to be added to the check for unknown parameters: employer, medium, active, and subject. -- Zyxw (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

These sound like easily surmountable problems: Add the missing parameters, and wrap the values submitted to the meta-template in the microformat metadata code, as needed. Assuming it is needed (just because metadata is possible, or a microformat exists, doesn't mean we're obligated to use it).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Comparison to put things into perspective

Parameter	Infobox comedian	Infobox person
1
2
3
4
5
abovestyle
active
agent
alias
alma mater
alma_mater
alt
awards
baptised
baptized
birth_date
birth_name
birth_place
birthname
boards
body discovered
body_discovered
box_width
burial_coordinates
burial_place
callsign
caption
child
children
citizenship
credits
criminal charge
criminal penalty
criminal status
criminal_charge
criminal_charges
criminal_penalty
criminal_status
Current_members
current_members
death cause
death_cause
death_date
death_place
denomination
disappeared_date
disappeared_place
disappeared_status
domestic_partner
domesticpartner
education
embed
employer
era
ethnicity
family
father
footnotes
genre
height
height_cm
height_ft
height_in
height_m
home town
home_town
homepage
honorific prefix
honorific suffix
honorific_prefix
honorific_suffix
honorific-prefix
honorific-suffix
honors
honours
image
image caption
image size
image_caption
image_size
image_upright
imagesize
influenced
influences
judicial status
judicial_status
known
known for
known_for
label_name
landscape
medium
memorials
misc
misc2
misc3
misc4
misc5
misc6
module
module2
module3
module4
module5
module6
monuments
mother
movement
name
nationality
native_name
native_name_lang
net worth
net_worth
networth
nickname
nocat_wdimage
notable works
notable_work
notable_works
occupation
office
opponents
organisation
organization
organizations
other names
other_names
othername
parents
partner
partner(s)
partners
party
Past_members
past_members
post-nominals
pre-nominals
predecessor
pronunciation
pseudonym
relations
relatives
religion
residence
resting place
resting place coordinates
resting_place
resting_place_coordinates
restingplace
restingplacecoordinates
siglum
signature
signature alt
signature_alt
signature_size
spouse
spouse(s)
spouses
status
style
subject
successor
television
term
title
url
URL
website
works
years active
years_active
yearsactive

Convert to wrapper Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 02:19, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Replace

| label5 = Born| data5 = {{br separated entries|{{{birth_date|}}}|{{{birth_place|}}}}}

with

| label10 = Born| data10 = {{Br separated entries|1={{#if:{{{birth_name|{{{birthname|}}}}}}|<div style="display:inline" class="nickname">{{{birth_name|{{{birthname|}}}}}}</div>}}|2={{{birth_date|}}}|3={{#if:{{{birth_place|}}}|<div style="display:inline" class="birthplace">{{{birth_place|}}}</div>}}}}

In order to show the birth name as part of the "Birth" section as in template:infobox person. –DMartin 05:44, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: looks like a consensus needs to be established for this alteration. Please garner the needed consensus before using the {{edit template-protected}} template again. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 10:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

The birth name should be included with the "Birth" section. If this is the change to the code needed for that result, I'm for it. ~BappleBusiness^[talk] 06:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

That would put "Died" before "Born" in the infobox so I think this needs further thought. I've put a test on Template:Infobox comedian/testcases#Mel Smith — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. MSGJ's counter-argument needs discussion. Primefac (talk) 12:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Make the title of the "birth name" parameter in nowrap, or some other way to make it on one line. It looks strange to have it on two lines, as people rarely have names that span two lines in normal zoom levels. Example of issue can be seen at George Carlin. --IWI (talk) 12:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 04:56, 28 July 2022 (UTC)