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September 2007
Please do not add unreferenced controversial information to Wikipedia articles on living persons, as you did to Natasha Lewin. Thank you. DGG (talk) 17:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't add a single word of content to the Natasha Lewin article, nor would I since I don't know who she is. I stumbled onto the article in recent changes, read the "article" as it were and couldn't find a good place to revert, so I added a tag stating that the entire article was completely "unreferenced controversial information", to use your words. IMHO Keeper76 14:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I wanted to thank you for your kind words of support on what I would consider a rather outlandish turn of events on the 20-20-20 Club article. TeganX7 03:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
20-20-20-20 club
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Aptronym
Hi Keeper. Regarding your edit to aptronym, did you include Goodpaster as the spelling / pronunciation is similar to pastor? As paster means something different, it's not actually an aptronym. The Wizard of Id page is not encyclopedic, it's just one comic strip that demonstrates aptronyms exist - there are already sources which do so in the article, and I can't see how the page satisfies WP:EL. You also appeared to remove Derek Jeter - several names on the list are foreign words, you would have to gain consensus for removing non-English aptronyms on the talk page first. Thanks, Deiz talk 02:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Deiz, I am sincerely baffled by this. According to my "contributions" page, I made these changes today (Sept. 25th) at 1 in the morning (CST). Here's the problem - I don't have a computer at my home, only my office, and I was not at work at 1 this morning - I can't even get in my locked building if I wanted to. I did not make these changes (nor would I!). If you look at my other contributions to any article, you'll see that the time stamps are 100% consistently during the day and/or evening, never in the middle of the morning. That being said, I still believe Rev. Goodpaster should belong here for two reasons - he is notable (has a longstanding wiki article) and because precedence was set with the inclusion of Tim Duncan (because he is "dunking" a basketball I presume?) I guess I wish he was a professional paster (someone who pastes?) but I don't think that exists :-) As for the Wizard of Id reference, it existed here long before I was even an editor so I have no vested interest in it being here. Didn't create it, didn't even know it existed until you pointed it out and I lookied through the article's history. And I have no problem with Derek Jeter being here (even though I will be honest and say I despise the New York Yankees) or other foreign language inclusions for that matter. Is it possible that my user name was saboutaged? Keeper76 15:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I see the edit time as 10:04 KST (UTC +9) which would be 01:04 UTC, and assuming CST is US Central time adjusted for daylight saving (CDT, UTC -5) and my maths is correct, that would be 20:04 CDT on Monday evening in Chicago. The history of a page shows the appropriate time according to the time setting in your preferences, unlike signed comments on talk pages which always show UTC - could this explain the confusion? Of course, if you genuinely did not make the edit, you should keep a close eye on your account.. Duncan is also a "soundalike", which is again one logical leap too far to be an aptronym, removed accordingly. With a list like this, you have to be very stringent about applying the inclusion criteria or all kinds of subjective entries get into the list and the page suffers. I hope your account is OK! Cheers, Deiz talk 15:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- I genuinely did not make that edit. Time stamps are something I can't figure out in wikiworld - things have different time stamps on different pages...I'm sure it's logical to someone and I'm sure I can change my preferences, but I don't. All I know is that the rest of my edits are substantially different in their respective time stamps. All of them. There aren't any other single edits anywhere near that time stamp in my contributions. I didn't make that change. Fortunately, you caught it and reverted it to where it should be. Thanks for removing Duncan also, inconsistency is a bane to reliability and credibility. I'll keep an eye on my contribs... Keeper76 15:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC) (right now it is 1100 in my world, or 1600 UTC.)
- It can be a bit confusing.. I note the edit was a little out of your normal range, a couple of hours later than any other edits you've made in the past couple of weeks.. if 20:04 makes as little sense as 01:04 then keep an eye out. Weird edit for a saboteur to make, maybe talk to the caretaker in your office... Deiz talk 16:04, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Deiz. I went through my entire history, and indeed I have made other edits around that same time. My sincere apologies for the assumption I had made about never editing at that time - all I saw was was "1:04" and immediately went the conspiracy theory route - my bad. I didn't realize that it was UTC in my contribs page, I thought it was local. It now seems much more likely I truly made that edit (at 8pm US central time) rather than a sabouteur (i'm smiling at myself right now) It was an unintentional edit, probably hit "undo" accidently or revert. I left work at 8:15 pm, much later than usual, which made it stand out on my contribs page (I only edit at my office). I left work 11 minutes after that edit. I had been at work at that point for approx 14 hours and must have been drunk with power. Or just tired. Or careless. Or just drunk. Whichever way, good catch, good revert. I'll be more careful. On another note, I've been looking at philopedia's talk page. He/she has deleted your warnings pertaining to his/her much more aggregious "mistakes" to Aptronym. [1] Maybe a "don't delete stuff from your talk page warning" is in order? :-) Keeper76 16:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- There are two reasons for removing edits on talk pages. If an editor removes an "instructional message" (aka warning) and demonstrates that they got the point, no worries. Continued removal of warnings to hide / ignore them and no change in behaviour is double jeopardy. I've got an eye on aptronym, if he disrupts it with random wordplay again he knows he can and will be blocked for disruption. Deiz talk 16:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- Cool. Thanks for the patient explanations, and your patience in general. I just did some research about removing content from one's own userpage. All good. Not sure wheere I got the idea that it was uncivil. Seems my learning curve in here resembles a steep steep hill. Slow legburning climb to the top, but once I get there, it should make for an exhilarating ride...:-) Keeper76 19:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Spelling
Hi, I notice you correcting some people's spelling in an Afd, and I thought I would let you know that when it isn't in an article, you generally shouldn't correct typos except for your own. Thanks! Katr67 16:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Katr67. I hope my "secretive" sp correction wasn't harmful. I rarely do it, in this case the correction was for readability. I was adding my own comments and thought the other's comments would be more effective if spelled correctly (I changed "waster" to "waste" and "oppinion" to "opinion". Didn't mean to upset, I appreciate your headsup... Keeper | 76 16:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- AM makes typos all the time. I've gotten used to it. :) No harm done, but some people do get a litte grumpy about it so I thought I'd let you know. Katr67 16:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Katr67. I hope my "secretive" sp correction wasn't harmful. I rarely do it, in this case the correction was for readability. I was adding my own comments and thought the other's comments would be more effective if spelled correctly (I changed "waster" to "waste" and "oppinion" to "opinion". Didn't mean to upset, I appreciate your headsup... Keeper | 76 16:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John M. Culkin sourced, rewritten
Hi Keeper. Someone has added sources and rewritten the article. You might want another look. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 11:31, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Hasland Junior School
Hey no problem, don't worry about it, I would have done the same in your shoes! Thanks for the advice. Schumi555 21:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
- Just a little query, would you be able to tell me how I should reference information given from a conversation? I spoke to the Headmaster at the school and he told me some very interesting things that I have added to the article, things that are not be present in books/newspaper articles etc. Regards, Schumi555 14:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's a tough one, I'll look into it and try to get back to you today. I'll post something later on your talk page after I ask around a bit. Keeper | 76
- Many thanks for your quick response. Some of the information he gave me is about himself, e.g. when he is set to leave the school. There would be a problem if anyone asked me to produce evidence of where he found that information! Thanks again, Schumi555 15:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- No problem, glad I could help. If someone does question the accuracy of his "retirement plans", it may be possible to find a local paper that perhaps does a write-up about his career, maybe not. If it is challenged, I would say just remove it as it is (for now) both unreferencable and relatively unimportant to the article as a whole. Can always be added back if/when he is replaced. I'm sure that will make at least a paper. Again, I find it highly unlikely to be challenged. Now, if you went to Bono's article and typed "Bono will be retiring in 2008, he told me so himself", I can't imagine that staying in the article too long...:-) Cheers! Keeper | 76 15:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your quick response. Some of the information he gave me is about himself, e.g. when he is set to leave the school. There would be a problem if anyone asked me to produce evidence of where he found that information! Thanks again, Schumi555 15:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
- That's a tough one, I'll look into it and try to get back to you today. I'll post something later on your talk page after I ask around a bit. Keeper | 76
Hi Keeper. A couple of minutes ago an unregistered user went round the Hasland Junior School page and marked just about every minute piece of information without a reference as 'citation needed'. Is there anything I can do to change this as I feel he has just gone over the top, the article can hardly be read now! Thanks, Schumi555 10:08, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
- It looks like another user (Gr1st), has removed the "citation needed" litter, which I agree was WAY overdone. The only one still on the page as of right now is the one after the announced "retirement" of the current leader, which I think is appropriate. You may be better off just removing that one sentence until a formal announcement is made and/or published, could end up a WP:BIO issue and draw unnecessary attention to the well written article. Keeper | 76 14:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Marked for deletion again: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hasland Junior School (2nd nomination). Schumi555 14:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
"The Kipper and the Corpse"
Thanks for that chuckle! :-) Dismas|(talk) 19:56, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
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Orlando disambiguation
I've reverted your mistakes. Can you please explain what you were trying to acomplish by moving around these pages? I'm a bit confused by what you did. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 18:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yikes, I really screwed up, and immediately tried to get help here. Thank you for reverting something I was unable to fix! I recently begun working at Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links, and was trying to efficiently clean up the Orlando entry (which has 165 links to the disam page incorrectly). After picking out the few that should have linked to Virginia Wolff's novel and the Handel opera, the solution I was going for, in an effort of boldness, was based on my observation that the vast majority of edits that wikilinked "Orlando" were intending to go to "Orlando, Florida". I was attempting, in vain, to redirect "Orlando" to "Orlando, Florida", and then subsequently adding an "otheruses" tag on top of that page back to "Orlando (disambiguation)". I mistyped "Orlando (disambiguation)" as "Orlando 9disambiguation)" by not holding the shift key for the left parenthetical mark, and mistakenly hit save instead of preview. Each time I tried to fix it, I made it worse, so I went to a specific admin's talk page (Dekimasu) for help rolling back. I'm all done with Orlando...thanks again for your help. Keeper | 76 18:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's all good. I wasn't complaining... I was just wondering what end you were trying to achieve with your edits. The above explanation makes sense. Everyone makes mistakes, and it really doesn't matter, provided they eventually get fixed or otherwise resolved. Personally, I tend to look at why the edits were made, not what edits were made. I wouldn't worry about it. Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and I hope you continue to edit! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 22:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
RfA for Canadian Paul
Oddibe McDowell
Sorry, I'm not the original Oddibe McDowell, though I did play with him on the '86 Rangers. He's a great guy and now lives back in the Miami area. He told me he hates wikipedia though. Oddibe (talk) 14:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Pasadena Link
Point taken Good Sir, I have restored the link to the Pasadena, California destination.
Regards,tfr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terryrandell (talk • contribs) 00:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Additionally
Not a problem good sir! Have a good day! (I'm not here to ruffle feathers hahaha)
Article on non-speciesist egalitarianism
Hi Keeper, thanks for your message. Absolutely, Wikipedia truly is wonderful; similar in many ways to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; even better, for sure, there being no limit on how much information can get into it; the lack of space in the Hitchhiker's, as you know, forced them to massively limit their entries, like "The Earth. Mostly Harmless." As for the issue at hand: The concept of non-speciesist egalitarianism, like non-racist and non-sexist egalitarianism of the past, is a real issue and has been written about by intellectuals and philosophers hundreds of years back. Do you suggest that the validity of the article is in dispute, or is it only a matter of my titles? I would thoroughly appreciate your help. As you know, I am new to Wikipedia and it seems I need some assistance with this in order to get it right. 'Speciesism,' as you know, is racism to animals. (We are kinder to dogs than to pigs, but pigs are more intelligent than dogs, even smarter than some chimpanzees, and certainly will be feeling the same kind of pain than an abused dog would.) Would "Non-speciesism" be a suitable and uncontroversial title for the article? I looked it up on Google and there were 120 results, including one that says "non-speciesism (in the narrow sense in which I've used the term and which I think the Wikipedia definition favours)." -- Ciao, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) 21:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
The argument that has been made by so many philosophers, and I trust you will agree, is that there's no need to prioritize human rights over animal rights. We don't need to eat or wear the remains of animals and thus we can give them the same compassion that we award our family and out pets. By the simple action of ceasing to eat and wear dead animals, we immediately solve one of the issues; this takes no effort at all and doesn't in any way distract from the important issues pertaining to human rights. -- Kind regards, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
It is the issue at hand: this is what the article has been set up for. Martijn has offered his kind support as well -- please see our exchange of thoughts at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Martijn_Hoekstra. Would it be acceptable if I kept my article as is (I just started; I, and as I mentioned, more notable philosophers and intellectuals, will keep adding to it) but changed the title to "Animals and Egalitarianism"? I am truly grateful for your help; and yes, I'll be spending a lot more time helping to improve Wikipedia. Cheers, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) 22:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
The issue that prompted an AfD was not the validity of the article itself, but that the title was a neologism. (When I put up "Vegalitarian" I did not know of this policy.) I'm not creating a new page, but I am about to move "Animal Egalitarianism" to "Animals and Egalitarianism". I hope you and the other editors of Wikipedia don't object. -- Cheers, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:44, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I'll take your advice. If both articles are deleted though, I hope you will find it acceptable that I put up a modified article named "Animals and Egalitarianism." (More appropriate would be "Non-human Animals and Egalitarianism," but that, I fear, would be a little too elaborate.) -- Cheers, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) 22:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well, let's keep everything together for now. And the best place to do that, in my oppinion, is a userfied version on Stigs page for now. Any takers? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, Keeper; take care! -- Cheers, Stig Shousokutsuu (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Enough
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Perhaps its just your writing style, but the challenge came across as accusatory (and I did allow that maybe it was just "snarky"). You are no doubt quite the smart person (your user page says so), so I am surprised that you do not see that the way you confronted a differeing opinions might be seen as a bit abrasive (whether that was your intent or not). Please draw in the claws, I am not your enemy and I promise you I am not that vested in that article or The Hat. My differeing opinion was offered. let me assure you I did not mean to upset you to the point of confrontation, but if upset you are, let me now apologize. Jacksinterweb (talk) 16:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- Point taken. And I also apologize. I think perhaps it is a writing style problem here, and upon rereading my comments, I can see how they can in this case (easily) be taken as snarky. I will attest here that I wasn't intending to come off that way, I was not upset then (nor now), nor was I flashing my claws (in fact, I keep my nails very well trimmed around here; life's too short, and Wikipedia doesn't pay that well). I will also say I had to look up snarky in Wiktionary to see if I fit that bill, so don't let my userpage fool you too much. Would you like me to strike any comments on of my comments towards you on the discussion page? I certainly will if you feel that would help the discussion maintain civility, which was after all my ill-fated and poorly stated goal. Keeper | 76 16:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- No, we're cool. All I wanted was to set things right and apologize for my part, and nothing you wrote was over the top (just misunderstood on my part). Jacksinterweb (talk) 16:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
- Have a Pastrami
cheeseburgeron me. --evrik (talk) 23:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC) - any chance of you changing your vote? --evrik (talk) 21:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's still open? That's a holiday weekend for you...I unwatchlisted it, figured it was closed...hmm...I'll be right back.... Ok, just looked in on the article, paying close attention to the references. A couple of reasons why I won't change my position (I won't use the term "vote" for what is really a discussion towards consensus and not a poll, but you know that). 1. I just don't see the verifiability needed to warrant inclusion (I promise I'm not a deletionist, merely a verifiability-ist). I am starting to see the notability though, and think the article is vastly improved. The articles for OC Register, Deseret News, LA times, Pasadena Star News, even OCWeekly, are likely legitimate, but the links are to the (current) homepages and not to the stories themselves. By definition, that's an unacceptable source as there's no way to check the accuracy of the statements in Wikipedia against the statements in those articles (which is the whole point of being a secondary reference like Wikipedia, and not a primary reference like the articles it supposedly sources). I understand you likely changed them to the respective homepages because before they were viewable only as "archives" that one would have to pay to retrieve (also unacceptable in wikiland) 2. The references that are to the correct source/story are either passing mentions (like the story about french fries that says "the hat gives you lots of friench fries with your order"), or are blogs, which I detest as sources, or promotional in nature (POV problems) like the chamber of commerce. But take heart, good editor, looking at the AfD's progression, the consensus is likely going to be for keep anyway. The Hat will prevail. I'm abstaining from adding to the conversation on the AfD as I really have no vested interest in the article staying or going, I've said my piece there (and here). Citing the bystander effect, I can only presume some other editor will pick up on the sourcing problem and maybe renominate. If that happens, I would likely "vote" against it again without even better sources. Cheers, Keeper | 76 22:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Moving "Staring at the Sun"
Oh sure. I'd be happy to move it. I was actually going to call it that originally, because I thought it sounded like a fairly common song title. I checked to see if anything existed at Staring at the Sun (song) and nothing did, so I called it that. If you think it causes confusion with the U2 song, either I could move it or you could just go ahead and do it. -- H3xx (t/c/b) 23:16, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
- OK, I moved it. I don't want to go in and change all the links around just yet, as it seems like the original page won't be needed for a while until the other bands' pages can be created. When that happens, the links will probably be either taken care of by a bot or manually corrected. Until then, the redirection page will have to suffice. I just feel lazy right now (I've been editing for the last 5 hours). -- H3xx (t/c/b) 23:25, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Are You RH?
Hello, Keeper76!
How are you? Good to hear from you! Yes, it is I. Just trying to document some things as they actually happened. Thank you for reaching out. If I do or say anything that's improper please let me know. Your comments and thoughts are welcome and helpful to me.Take care Ronsax (talk) 20:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I Hear Ya!
Thank's very much, Keeper76.I just want to tell some things exactly as they happened without "dressin' up" any details. I've heard if you pat yourself on the back long enough your arm will snap clean off, so I won't be doing any of THAT!Thanks, 76 Ronsax (talk) 20:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Re
Prefix index, and the bald guy is cool. jj137 ♠ Talk 21:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words and support.
![]() | Dear Keeper, Thank you for supporting in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 16:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC) |
Re: Um, yeah.
Thank you for your support remember to vote for me this coming week so I don't come in dead last. And I'll give the Vikes some credit, but Eli stinks. --Endless Dan 13:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- As much as I despise SHEli at the moment, he does have his possitives. He gives the Giants a steady QB (which more than half the league can't claim - more than 50 different starters this year) and he has taken the Giants to 2 straight (maybe 3) playoffs appearences but his inconsitency is killing us. I dunno how it is in Minnesota or outside of New York area, but that doesn't cut the mustard for an NY sports team. And we've gotta live with this guy for possibly the next 7, 10 years. My feeling for Minnesota is they will find a QB this off season. Pennington would be a great guy in Minny. He's consistent and doesn't make stupid mistakes (like Eli). --Endless Dan 15:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the support. You shouldn't be thanking Eli. He tried his hardest to hand that game to Da Bears (a pick in the first series...ugh) but in the end our defense came through. I can't believe the Lions are collapsing like this. Oh wait, I can - they're the Lions and their GM is a blockhead. You should be thanking Rexy Grossman for not being able to capitalize on the great field position our kicking team and offense kept giving em. --Endless Dan 19:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Heck, I wish Grossman was in our division. I've had to deal with Donovan McNabb tearing us appart for the past 6 years. Now we got the Golden Boy on our hands. I think what's really killing Eli is the lack of a consistent run game. Hightower keeps getting nicked and Derrick Ward is rumored to be out for the year. Without the run game to slow things down, this puts the entire game on Elisha's back. I cringe every time the ball is in the air. Also - the Giants have some of the most inept coaching on the offensive side of the ball I have ever seen.--Endless Dan 19:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- The essence of being a fan. We'll be there longer after the players we love to criticize and the players we love almost unconditionally. But you know, for all the bad times and throwing the remotes across the room - the good times make it worth it. --Endless Dan 20:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Ugh - I can't believe you brought them up. You can talk all the crap you want about my quarterback or my football team...but that's just reopening old wounds. You wouldn't happen to be a Twins fan, would you? --Endless Dan 21:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the support. You shouldn't be thanking Eli. He tried his hardest to hand that game to Da Bears (a pick in the first series...ugh) but in the end our defense came through. I can't believe the Lions are collapsing like this. Oh wait, I can - they're the Lions and their GM is a blockhead. You should be thanking Rexy Grossman for not being able to capitalize on the great field position our kicking team and offense kept giving em. --Endless Dan 19:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Well at least your on the level with the jealousy part. It is nice to have aggressive ownership with very deep pockets. I dunno if I necessarily buy into Toronto ownership or Tampa Bays ownership being these poor little orphans. As it looks as if they're doing quite well for themselves financially. Besides, who says you need a quarter billion dollar payroll to win the World Series? --Endless Dan 14:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I hear ya. Being in a big market, we take the good with the bad. But if we're gonna talk poor ownership, I've got you trumped.--Endless Dan 17:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- If (I'm still hoping otherwise..) this trade goes down, Boston's rotation will be absolutely disgusting. My hopes are either Johan rejects the trade (Fenway is not lefty friendly) or someone else steps in (not likely). But to be honest I was never too keen on getting Johan. I'm totally in the minority on this, but I would like to continue developing our youngsters. Of course, being a Yankee fan, I'll take him - if it means Boston (or the Mets) don't get the satisfaction. --EndlessDan 17:16, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Re Aptronym
Hi Keeper, thanks for the headsup re your change (and lucky i noticed it -- i don't log in very often).
Yeah, i was wondering if i might need to annotate that entry for an international audience. It's hilarious in the UK: "baps" is ultra-cliched slang for "breasts". Note the last disambiguation of baps.
In which case, the assoc'n of plastic surgeons naming themselves after the most cliched female enhancement is... rather apt.
Maybe we can need to add an explanatory note re it being UK slang? Actually, more likely Commonwealth slang, because aussies & kiwis know it too.
cheersSaltation (talk) 22:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- eg, how about something like:
- BAAPS: British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons (implies a British euphemism: see the last disambiguation of baps)
Saltation (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I noticed quite a few people have gotten less supports then me... lol, thank you for your vote! --EndlessDan 19:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you, thank you.--EndlessDan 20:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Got Your Message!
Thanks for the good advice, 76. I understand what you're saying. Maybe I'll start whittling it down some. I've actually finished with adding anything to the article. It won't be any longer. Just between you and me I'm not interested in trying to make the article long for it's own sake. I just want it to be absolutely accurate and verifiable. Thanks for lookin' out for me and I value your advice. Take care of yourself. Ronsax (talk) 00:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Minny
The #6 spot, a favorable schedule and Johan is still a Twin, my congrats to you. I think that the first round of the playoffs is a toss up. Seattle and Tampa Bay don't exactly strike fear into anyone's heart. Good times are back in Minnesota...almost. --EndlessDan 18:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Enjoy the present moment. AD had the worst game of his career and Minnesota still found a way to win. I'd love to see Minnesota have a Cinderella run through the playoffs (when, er, if, my Giants manage to go one and done for the 3rd straight year). But this is all for selfish reasons, of course. I don't care who wins. Bucs, Seattle, even King Favre. Anyone but Dallas. Anyone. I noticed a lot of pessimism in your last comment. Living in Philly, I thought that level of pessimism was reserved for only Philadelphia area sports fans. --EndlessDan 15:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Bold editing
This was good work. I should have been as bold as that! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Really, really bad haikus from a new admin
Setting new lows in thank-you spam:
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Janitor's new tools
Spam must stop -- will new mop act?
Ooops, .com blocked
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New admin, new tools
Earnest newbie furrows brow
Fare thee well Main Page
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New mess all about
Sorcerer's Apprentice mop
Not supporter's fault
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A. B. so grateful
Wikipedia trembles
Watch out DRV
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A. B. wonders why
Copyright always confused
Fair use, farewell, bye
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Qatar is blocked
Shucks those range blocks are tricky!
Will get it straight soon.
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Colbert's elephants
stampede Wikipedia
Must protect, protect
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Wiki fortress not.
Open gates, knowledge wings free
But fiends are about
Dear RfA friend,
I will learn, chaos will fade
Thanks so much ... A. B.
Keeper, thanks so much for your thoughtful and detailed comment supporting my adminship. I look forward to staying cool (sometimes I have to work at it)
In the meantime, enjoy the haikus.
--A. B. (talk) 00:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Pulley AfD
Keeper, you seem to have a softer touch than I in quoting policy, etc. Could you respond to this person Re: the Pulley AfD Talk:Gerald_P._Pulley? I think you'll find all the policy you need here WP:NOT#MEMORIAL. Thanks. Mbisanz (talk) 19:57, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Quotes
Thanks bunches. I would like to thank the Academy, and my agent..You like me! You really, really like me! :D - Arcayne (cast a spell) 21:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm totally disgusted with this team. The general concensus amongst fellow fans and the talking heads is that this offense needs to be re-vamped. I don't think we need to replace players, but rather internally. Meaning Mein Kaughlin and Kevin Kill-drive have gotta go. Who throws the ball that much in windy weather?! Especially when we were running well against the Skins. Another terribly coached game under the Coughlin regime...aghgh!! How many weeks till pitchers and catchers?
- Your boys have put me in an awkward position. I've gotta openly cheer for the Deadskins to win next week so we get an automatic playoff birth. Normally when in this position I'd root for the G-Men to tread their own path into the playoffs, but given the circumstances, I'd rather rely on on our rivals winning and giving us the opportunity to rest some of our banged up starters in preperation for the upcoming abortion in week 17. --EndlessDan 15:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- PS - It would be nice now to have this fella back.
Quotes
I'd like to thank God and conversely my dog. Oh, and the little people. --EndlessDan 14:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Vikings 2007 Season
Nice job cleaning up the 2007 Vikings Season article.24.245.33.104 (talk) 01:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Speedy was contested
I'm sure you're aware that the speedy for Grabber Tees was contested, which is why I brought it to AfD for community consensus. It is an obvious delete, that goes without saying, but I'm pretty sure a speedy tag is not supposed to be put on twice if the "hangon" tag is added (it was). Am I missing something? (and yes, that is quite possible) Keeper | 76 20:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- No, apparently I am... I didn't realize it'd been a contested speedy already. My bad. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
you're nuts, delete the page for all i care. the faster the better —Preceding unsigned comment added by Into everything (talk • contribs) 20:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Moved from userpage
Reg: Naresh Sonee page
Kindly help me to reinstall my page Naresh Sonee . And please omit only sentences or paras which your goodeslf feel voilet wikipedia codes as poems LGTB etc or otherwise. I fully respect your watch on such issues. But is it fair to delete the full page? Meanwhile,I request you to give a final touch of editing and be generous & empathy for my time or stressed consumed in doing all such research on my characters since years including all pain taking discussion with you. Regards / Alan Sun ---Dralansun (talk) 07:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
1800Petmeds
Good work on the article. -JodyB talk 19:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Keeper76
I had put my greivences to the founder of wikipedia & arbitratory committeei think some one deleted my below page. I just need your answer Keeper76, nothing else.Had you forwarded my page toyour chairperson of wikipedia. My issue is not a small issue.I had put many days on my work. how you will feel I go and rub your pages? This what has been done by 4-5 flying people on wiki.Reg page Naresh SoneeKindly forward this mail to all respected concerned person involved & to esteemed honorable Chief Judges , Chief Administrators , Chief Chair Person of WIKIPEDIA.Dear Keeper76,Your judgment for Graeme is excellent he deserves more than that. People like them are generous in deed & people (watchers) like you too who come forward and show your feeling for such noble person Graeme & reg my pleas or diatribe. I am not criticizing the whole team. My strong view is -that hidden people like you are watching the scene. & that’s what good point why wiki can still be improved? My suggestion is that wiki should be only governed by good heart people who possess angel mind & Deletion should not be ruthlessly made. However as my appeal , All paras may be deleted if they lack sources to prove, But for reliability/notability of news and views –original newspapers could be asked as evidence, & vollenters editors should not abuse the contributor by using absurd words like soapbox etc. Voleenters who use harsh or hard words and smell bias should be deleted from wikipedia after giving few warnings. But , I come to my point again - in Sonee’s case why such drastic move to delete the whole page –when the matter/page of Naresh Sonee was on talk/discussion box still . Why a urgent judgment of ‘few five’ over provoked to prove the judgment favoring urgent deletion. There is no consideration of expert editors like Graeme & Aleta even . By passing a quick judgement wikipedians has also overruled Graeme’s & Aleta’s views of judgement ? Should not an open discussion be still held or countered that why sane comments of these two people who supported my article which had enough news./ reviews to prove the notability/reliability of a person existence still considered , debated or justified ? & my appeal or grievance of cry is -why the whole page was deleted ? There could be two lines kept on Sonee. Is wikipedia a humiliating grounds for a contributor or for the page raised on ? Does only news/reviews what are circulating or operating internet be witnessed as news & other form of news are hopelessly vague for wiki people ? . Many countries are still lacking behind to access internet structure. This could be 80% public in India where only young are net serchers. Do you mean internet wikipedian can abolish newpapers news and term them as obsolete or non notable/unreliable source? What wikipedian want to prove?
For instance – As you people reject indymedia news as unreliable or un notable news Will it be fine that one day indymedia of the world, or google news circulate the negative news on wikipedia ? And does this news is not important and will not be a noticeable/reliable news for wikipedia . For wikipedia chalkers or chokers what is the meaning of news/ notability / blogs ? If there is any democratic arbitrary section who make rule and regulation for wikipedia tell them to discuss / define the meaning of news or ‘indymedia news’? Is indymedia blog or just journalism of few aspiring donkey’s?
See dear Keeper76, thankyou to read uptill here with patience. I really appricate and want to place a ‘peace & patience wikipedian award also for you too.
But to my debate - I can still place & prove that several news are on prominent news papers of India- Punjab Kesari, Dainik Bhaskar , Rajasthan Patrika on Naresh Sonee. These newspapers hold the readers’ respect of honour as ‘leaders newspapers’ in India same as NewYork Times , Washington Times does carry in their self country. Are all Indian news papers vague or hopeless and aspiring or sharing obsolete nonsense news in India circulating news just for fun and fool the mass? What 4-5 wiki editors/volunteers want to spell for Indian news paers ? Should one article come for negative publicity of wikipedia . Their step motherly treatments for Indian news papers.
However the true investigative, journalists team if wilkipedia has in its wiki project should had asked the reliability/validity or the presence of such newspapers from atleast wiki India project people . Not the fame of the person in question. Fame & notability are two different issues. A philosopher , poet or revolutionary may not be so famous as Tom Cruise or Pamela Anderson . May a important person not be famous as bin laden . May be brilliant and wise brains lack ability to become rich and famous as Brintney Spears who maxmirize mass and media and wikipedians exposing their beautiful breast? May be the person in question who well behave to keep low profile but still need his voice /vision to be heard?But does it mean non so famous lack notability or reliability criteria. News are news whether they come from horses mouth or ducks. Wiki denies indymedia. Why ? are these indymedia people nuts shaking their brains? Indymedia news is reliable-older and far reliable then wiki. People around world access the news promptly within a minute it spread it crucial or simple news only by writing a word on search engine. News readers get access to free news and gossips, debate are created more than any news or blogs.
Like any small or large circulation of internet news or newspaper news - this indymedia generate far better news distributing free for world – The news are news – Every promoted news becomes real notability or generate gossips or debates of the world . You see, Keeper 76, Every brilliant or blurred people of India is not internet searcher , 90 % mass still believe on newspapers news/reviews. In India 90% of people still don’t know what wikipedia means? So does it mean for Indian mass wikipedia is un notable / unreliable/ unimportant / Nonsense?
My dear Keeper76, if you still believe that Naresh Sonee page deserve two lines please focus that the page in question be raised by your good self or by your administrator or some good volenter. Show your generosity/empathy /judgment for my raised or shared work of pain taking research & info writings for wikipedia. I can also raise it again and again writing two words for a sake but what is the point of wasting my time and annoying many people of wiki? So as I am telling again and again I like to create / give a URL link which will display original scanned Indian leading Hindi News papers , Who all had covered new/reviews on Naresh Sonee. This should be enough to convince you. Your goodself can delete all paras/ url link of indymedia if you still feel all are hopeless. But agree to my Indian newspapers atleast.
And do believe never erase my talk on your page while this will remind you how ill wiki make a contributors like me to appear and pose/post his grievances making us run pillar to post disqualifying their hard core done research. While distributing medals of patience to self generated , self praising team. This letter should also reach your chairperson or arbitrary advisors - Who will be able to guide all respected volunteers editors that – leading newspapers news of every country or states or village has a notability value. & news/reviews once or twice , published in far past or immediate presence is enough evidence for notability /reliability –source. A registered newspapers big or small if registered with the governing registrar of the country absolutely un deniably carries a notability/reliability value .Similarly - Info or intro, presence of -Any remote or renowned person, place, performance of non living or living entity in the universe should not be ignored innocently or intentionally by wikipedians while turning nelson eye. Even an individual from a small village of the world if has a notability and had created /attracted some sort of state, city , country news that can attract a ‘world wide view’ or share a ‘world wide vision’ – or is instrumental to lead a new revolution among it’s own area is crucial for global wikipedians. Such things should not be suppressed.
As like google, yahoo or any search engine I wish wikipedia should grow in size as it is –of the people, for the people , by the people . And wikipedia should clearly state it mission –what it exactly means or want ? or what it like to share among people of the world ? Is it a encyclopedia? Info centre of the world events, persons, place? Eventual History acknowledgement ? or Just a ‘Sand on Sea shore’ where any foot walker can rub , write , delete the written messages by whomsoever or ruthlessly rubbed by own self waves of sea (administrator).?
With regards to all of you again . Any good wikipedian like you should come forward , show generosity of reasoning neutral judgment of responsibility of raising my page again Naresh Sonee & Brhmaand Pujan no matter what you feel unreasonable writerings of mine may be scrutinized and deleted from them for ever. & What I personally feel your medal of ‘peace patience award banner’ given/honored to Graeme is just for a sake , a diplomatic way out in a self organized wikipedian style to place me out, by getting rid from me / by ignoring me for ever. I will admire if you show responsibility in placing my page again or hand over ing my case to your seniors or chief. Regards/ -Alan Sun- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dralansun (talk • contribs) 10:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Proposal shopping
Since I've gotten here (Wikipedia), I've noticed a continuing debate on fair use images. I've worked up some proposals that might help the issue over here User:Mbisanz/ImageSystemProposal and am now looking for comments and/or an editor smarter than me who could code them. Thanks. Mbisanz (talk) 08:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Dear Keeper76 ,I urge
Request the administrator. It seem the debate is over on Naresh Sonee so Pls delete each and every link/ debate on him as the search engine hits on naresh sonee 'hits' first on wikipedia discussion/delation page which is giving a wrong impression on seekers , readers of Sonee who has many hits to his credit. You can understand the negative impact . So treat it as urgent please. Regards- Alan Sun- --203.192.227.1 (talk) 06:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
One of those days
Ever had one of those days when you just want to WP:ABF and WP:BITE someone? :( MBisanz talk 16:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- I found the nominating criteria here [2] and again, I'm torn ont his one, since it doesn't seem like that notable an award, I skimmed the list of recipients,a nd none of them jumped out as names I'd ever heard of. Is there any way I could just go neutral as the nom? MBisanz talk 20:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Okey, I've changed my comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Majors, I wish I could swing to a full Keep, but I think this will do. Also, were you aware of this [3] statement from the Foundation lawyer? WP:COI looks nothing like what he's said. MBisanz talk 13:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Disamb Caucasian
Hihi
I stumbled on this one in Wikipedia Cleaner and started on it, but noticed you claimed it on the DONE part of the DAB project...you still working on it or is it ok for me to clean up the 60 or 70 left? Looks like they are pretty simple changes, mostly Biographies.
International Worship in English
The article as it was did not assert the notability of the subject; I did not know that the other article was up for AFD, the article simply said that it was "a Christian ministry formed on Easter in 1998 by Pastor Bill Majors at Young Nak Presbyterian Church in Myeongdong Seoul, South Korea." It also said when the earlier church was founded, but really made no claim of notability, hence I deleted it. If the author or someone else were to recreate the article and it asserted notability and cited the sources that were there, it would not get speedied. Hope this helps, I've copied it from my talk page. Keilanatalk(recall) 21:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your civility, I'm dealing with a couple of angry people and trying to provide evidence in an ArbCom case, so I may be a few minutes. I'll drop what I'm doing to look through deleted revisions, but it may take a minute. Can you stick around? Keilanatalk(recall) 22:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ah ha! Found them. That wasn't hard, they were right in the revision. The references are:
- Kim, Sun-jung. "Church with patience and grit." JoongAng Daily. 10 October 2004. ::[www.joongangdaily.joins.com/200410/10/200410102227084939900090409041.html]
- Archived
- Park, Jin-Hee. "Youngnak Caters to Foreign Worshippers." The Seoul Times. 16 December 2003. 29 December 2007. ::[4]
- Scott-Ashe, Richard. "Preaching in a much-changed place." JoongAng Daily. 19 December 2007. 29 December 2007. ::[5]
Hopefully this helps. Regards, Keilanatalk(recall) 22:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
My condolences
You called it. I was rooting for you guys, too. I didn't want it to come to having to sweat seeing 2 of the 3 teams I have the greatest distain for in the playoffs. Fan-freaking-tastic. God forbid they should make it to the big game...
Did you catch the Pats/Giants game? My luck, I wear my Eli jersey in public for the first time since last season and that S.O.B. ends up having one his best games of the season. Now I have to wear his wing sauce stained, alcohol soaked jersey this Sunday. No way I can wash off the good vibes from that game.
I hate loving sports. --EndlessDan 20:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Templeton
It was a slam dunk based on my misreading of who got the TP. Now I need to find time to read the articles. I think it is probably a keep but the main proponent has a style issue. --BozMo talk 21:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Teflon
I can't count above 6 so I'll thank you for your kind words and diligent inspection here instead. --AndrewHowse (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
adminship
Hello. After running into you at the College Football WikiProject, I went and took a look over your contribs, and you struck me as someone who would be a capable administrator. If you think you're up to it, I'll gladly nominate you at WP:RFA. Let me know of your decision. Wizardman 04:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. Your adminship is not showing up on the list of current RfAs. You should probably take a look at the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/nominate page.
I've added a question (8). — Dihydrogen Monoxide 22:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
The Legend of Eli
I have such a shit eating grin on right now, you have no idea. That grin has also spouted off a lot of shit this week with the office Cowboy fans. For my own financial and physical well being, we better win...
I also wanted to wish ya luck on your admin nomination. Don't become a total square. Remember, you are a disciple of stone cold chillin. Represent. --EndlessDan 14:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Request for copyedit
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Sitakunda Upazila has gone through a rigorous peer review that dealt mostly in content (thanks to Amartya). Then it was put forward as a WP:GAN, but was withdrawn by Miranda as she disagreed very much with the quality of the copy. I have formally applied to the LOCE Request page, but it has long backlog and it's always nicer to work with individuals. The article has almost no content issues (apart from a few redlinks) and is very stable at the point. I myself am a lousy copywriter, but I will be there to meet you every need in developing the article (that includes answering questions, filling in gaps, clarifying information and everything in that line)... I promise. I have high hopes for the article. As far as I can see, all that stands between an FA status and this article are "brilliant prose" and a few, really few, areas of content improvement. Aditya(talk • contribs) 08:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. I'm not familiar with the subject (in fact, I'm complete blind in regards to this subject), but that won't matter for copyediting. You've probably noticed already that I'm halfway through the copyediting process (7 sections). I'll keep going for the next 1/2 hour or so, then I will be offline for about 36 hours, so I'll pick this up again Monday. Happy editing, Keeper | 76 17:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Heyyyy, I almost missed the beginning of the great work. Thanks. A ferry-gaut is docking port that harbors river-ferries (gaut is actually a colonial English term used to refer to Indian small ports and such, i.e. a burning-gaut). Apart from one paragraph of thick mythology the rest of the Pilgrimage section may not be so scary, I guess. And, oh, while you are at it, would you take a look at Miranda's concerns? She left a note on the article talk page (another on her talk page). Leave a note for me when you withdraw, so I can at least keep some work rolling. Thanks again, you made my day. Aditya(talk • contribs) 17:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- sorry I disappeared there for the last 2 days, didn't have PC access. I'm back at it again today, and I'll look at Miranda's note also. Thanks for the gaut def, I learn something new everyday, or at least I hope to. Keeper | 76 15:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- Can you expound a bit on the choppiness and non-universality of the leade a bit on the peer review page? I have a feeling that I will be able to fix the problem (and, oh, the CITE thing, I promise to do myself). Thanks for the great job, and apologies for the process mishap. I failed to complete the process, sorry. Aditya(talk • contribs) 15:15, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Update, thanks and new request: I hope I have been able to handle some issues with the lead. Thanks for the continued support. Your help, in fact, encourages me to make another request. Miranda's comment on the talk page says - "Avoid using: it, here, there are (and variations)" - but, I don't think I'm able to handle that. Can you look into this issues? I hope I am not pestering too much. Aditya(talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. I'm not familiar with the subject (in fact, I'm complete blind in regards to this subject), but that won't matter for copyediting. You've probably noticed already that I'm halfway through the copyediting process (7 sections). I'll keep going for the next 1/2 hour or so, then I will be offline for about 36 hours, so I'll pick this up again Monday. Happy editing, Keeper | 76 17:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Piece of Shit
Ah well. Can't blame me for trying. I got away with for about 3 days. Wikilost (talk) 01:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
On the record
gb:17 (-7.5)sea:10
ne:38 (-13)jags:20
ind: 28(-6)sd: 17
NYG: 30 dal: 27(-7)
EndlessDan 18:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- 1-3... this should have been a rough weekend. Thank God for gullible Cowboys fans. They single handidly kept me out of the red this week. For this week:
- NYG: 28
- GB: 24
- And 10,000 collective heart attacks from the tri-states.--EndlessDan 21:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Hi Keeper - thanks for your participation in my request for adminship. I'm glad you approved of my answers, and I appreciated your support. I also appreciate your catching the fact that I had quite unintentially called User:Tasc0 a BLP violator and a block-evading sock (I was tired). Anyway, the RfA passed 52/0/0, and I'm now in possession of a shiny new mop. If I can ever help you with anything, please don't hesitate to contact me. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 08:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Rudget!
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You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 17:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations! Welcome aboard. Let me know how I can help or if you have any questions. We all need help from time to time so don't try to go it alone. You'll go a fine job. -JodyB talk 19:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are now the Man.--EndlessDan 21:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
I have nothing really to say... just wanted to let you know all is well in la-la land.--EndlessDan 21:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
My RfA
My request for adminship was successful at 64/1/2! Many thanks for your participation and I will endeavor to meet your expectations. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 09:10, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Ignition (band)
The G4 was an error on my part. I closed the AfD discussion because the article had been A7 speedied just as the AfD opened, but apparently the A7 was revoked soon afterward. (No, I didn't put the A7 on.) When I saw that the page was still hanging around, I thought that it was a re-creation of deleted material, so I put a G4 on it, then realized my mistake. Confused yet? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Rob De Mezieres page
Thanks for your offer of help with this new page.
I have used the format found on other director (particularly SA director - e.g. the Richard Stanley wiki page) sites. I guess I'm struggling to understand what is meant by 'notability'. De Mezieres is one of a fairly small number of South African directors, and the film I refer to in the article is seen as groundbreaking, was socially impactful, and won several awards. Does that make it 'notable'?
Is it a question of adding more referencing?
I'm an academic by profession, so have little doubt I can meet the criteria for the page. But I'm finding it hard to negotiate the help pages and work out quite what I'm doing wrong.
Any help you can offer will be greatly appreciate.
Jane
Thanks so much for your follow up message.
I think one of the issues is a more general lack of writing about South African films, which makes it hard to tick some of the boxes on notability that wiki outlines. However, I can certainly beef up the referencing - I've really just got started on the page.
This might be well beyond the call of duty for you, but it might help me to grasp what's lacking by comparison to a similar page on a similar topic, like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stanley_%28film_director%29 . Richard Stanley is clearly a more established director, in that he has a few more credits. But Bokkie (the De Mezieres film) was critically acclaimed and is used, for example, in several South African universities as an example of really good South African filmmaking. So I don't think the two directors are that dissimilar in terms of experience or impact. If you could perhaps tell me what's lacking in the de Mezieres page that's present in the Stanley one, I can address the gaps more competently.
Edited to add: I looked at a couple of other SA film directors' pages, and they seem to have similar structures too - e.g. this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Greene and this one, which is a 'stub' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Hood
Re your query about the term 'mockumentary': It is often applied in contexts other than comedy. For example, The Blair Witch was regarded as a mockumentary - and it wasn't terribly funny! Similarly the war of the worlds thing that Orson Welles did wasn't really noted for its comedic value.
Thanks again for your help with all this. It's greatly appreciated. I've got to go offline for the next 24 hours or so, but do look forward to reading any help you can offer when I get back.
RegardsJane
Meerkat70 (talk) 09:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Meerkat70 (talk) 09:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Drunken otters
I nearly shot Barq's root beer out my nose when I read the line about drunken otters. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
PlanOmatic deletion- need better reason
I am unsure why this page was deleted since it was flagged as being "under construction". I had seen the original page in the deleted que and took the time to contact this company to gain factual information on them. I can see why their last page was deleted since I agree it was blatant advertising. That being said, I inquired as to their history, etc. and actually made an entry for them that was unbiased, neutral and strictly factual. I do not understand how you can claim it was the same page, since it was not. Please explain as to why a page with fully edited information(and in process of construction) was deleted, when it was not due to being blatant advertising in my entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Realestatereviews (talk • contribs) 15:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
deleted page?
I created a page for the band Stuck Backwards who has received international press coverage as well as national radio exposure. They are frequently a part of national radio programs and should have exposure on wikipedia.
Here is an exerpt from a review from a magazine in Puerto Rico... the english translation is poor... and the explicit wording has been removed...
This just recently arrived to us, a *$%&& unique cd of a band named Stuck Backwards, this band is $#*^&* insane they all are looney an tough as human beigns, they do a great crossover music that mixes old school Punk, Metal, hardcore and some other stuff added to create originality, their live shows are awesome circle pits everywhere slam dance its the primordial, everyone sings along.This band has shared the stage with some great bands and they have won the respect of the audience and created a small army thats getting bigger everyday.All the band members as well as crazy and comical they are serious musicians that knows how to deliver powerful Punk Rock music the way it was ment to be funny, liberal and controversial, powerful uniquely guitar work, hard hitting bass linescrazy & curious punishing fast well created drumming, sincere disturbing maniacly vocals some times screamier and growled lyrics of real life situations and funny words also added.This is a band thats going to break todays music barriers keep a good look on this act they will amaze you.If you are a Sick $^%*&*& lover of crazy Punk Rock anthems this is a must have.Fans of Gwar, Lucky 13 Riot Extravaganza, Misfits and NOFX buy this baby.
All Access Rock Magazine
Can i repost the page that I created? Snowman1975 (talk) 19:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)snowman1975
- No, don't repost it. Recreating deleted material will just get deleted again, and then you'll be susceptible to a block of your user account. There are better ways to get the article back. First, do you have a link to the All Access Rock Magazine article that I can see?
Keeper | 76 19:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
This is the website for the magazine.. I don't have the hard copy of the article. http://allaccessrockmagazine.wetpaint.com/
Snowman1975 (talk) 20:00, 17 January 2008 (UTC)snowman1975
RfA
I have expanded my answer. Is it fine now? Vikrant 21:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
class of 9
The purpose of the class of 9 is merely to have someone to talk to. Want to keep in touch? Good! It's not really a club, more of a list and some people introducing themselves to each other. Archtransit (talk) 21:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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Deleting Beyond Time
Hi,
I don't think I did the company justice in the area that asks for a summary of the article. It's strictly informational about the company that owns the comic book property Black Tiger, not an advertisement. I would appreciate you reconsidering deleting this article.
Thanks,
John —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhervey (talk • contribs) 22:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Are you the owner of the company as you stated in your edit summary? If this is your company, I strongly recommend that you read the Wikipedia guideline about conflict of interest. Besides that hurdle, you need to be able to show that the company Beyond Time is notable. Please read the sections of wikipedia about verifiability and reliable sources which both help you show how your company is notable, and then get back to me with links to those. If you need help with this, you can ask me, any other user, or use the help desk. If you feel after reading those links that the article should still be here, let me know and I will restore the article (probably in your userspace and not the mainspace unless you have new references). Thanks, looking forward to hearing back from you, happy reading... Keeper | 76 22:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleting Beyond Time
Hi Keeper76,
Thanks for the links, I should have read them previously. I do have a reference at [www.beyondtimecomics.com], but I don't want to violate the spirit of third-party contribution. If you wouldn't mind, though could you post the article in my userspace?
Thanks again,
John
I wasn't clever enough to figure out how to directly reply to your previous message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhervey (talk • contribs) 23:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Returning
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
now you are an admin
you need to activate your email, so people can ask for help in confidential situations. even if you do not otherwise want to use it. DGG (talk) 23:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, I am free at last!
I dunno if it's still gonna be okay for you to be fraternize with a guy on skid row like me, but there is so much to discuss! I am still speechless over what happened on Sunday night. Between the Tynes missed FGs, the formerly much maligned Webster's pick in OT, Sam Madison's stupid foul and our fumbles (5)... it felt like the football Gods were trying to give another one to Lord Favre. To be honest, I'm still a little dumbfounded over the events. I just can't believe the Giants are going to the Super Bowl!!
PS, re: my block, just call it a hunch, but I don't believe this will be the last run-in I have with them stemming from this situation. Case in point, this. Look at the time of the update. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Endlessdan (talk • contribs) 16:12, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi John. --EndlessDan 16:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Cookie
Thank you for your cookie. I did not know you were on the LOCE. LOCE is a very good idea and helps editors and articles! Archtransit (talk) 16:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
ninetynine
Yeah, I thought it was a bit off too, but I couldn't seem to see any other way to do it. Asenine (talk)(contribs) 19:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Adminship
As far as being an administrator goes, I'd love to get there but am not sure if I've got the experience – I genuinely don't know whether there's more to it that I have yet to learn or not. I'm wondering whether an RfA (even a failed one) would be worth it to see the areas I might be lacking, or whether admin coaching is the way to go. Many thanks for the barnstar, it genuinely made me smile — alex.muller (talk • edits) 21:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
coaching
Now that your an admin, ever thought of working out at Wikipedia:Admin coaching/Status? There is a decent backlog at Wikipedia:Admin coaching/Requests for Coaching and you seem to have the temperment for difficult work. Or if you really want a challenge, you could adopt brand new people. MBisanz talk 22:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hey there MBisanz! I haven't seen your name around in a while, did you take a Wikibreak? (or maybe I'm just that oblivious.) I'll go to those links when I get some freetime (ha!), but I'm not sure about the formal adoption process yet (I've only had the mop for a week - no expert by any stretch). How's your admin pursuit going? I know that you've been doing the editor review/other steps to get the mop - are you currently adopted? Keeper | 76 22:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, I've been here, I've just moved more into image work to help with the insane NFCC backlog. I'm adopted, one coach retired and another went on a short wiki-break, but I'm still on the straight and narrow to RfA. And oddly enough, at least 2 of the most successful Admin Coaches, The Transhumanist and Durova, aren't actually admins, they just know how to work with others. Doing image work has given me a new persective on the annoying drudgery face around here. Some of the stuff that gets uploaded is amazing but unsourced, and some of the sourced content leaves me sctatching my head and wondering who would ever be interested in topic X. MBisanz talk 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- That's interesting, I didn't know that about the Transhumanist (I thought he/she was admin). Of course, Durova has plenty of admin experience, so his expertise in the subject is to be expected. I'll check out those links tomorrow. Good to see you moving into images. I have exactly zero experience in that area. I wasn't expecting to be an admin yet, I was surprise nommed by Wizardman and my adopting admin JodyB, and my RfA sailed right through. Personally, I think yours would too but I understand that you want to get it right the first time. right now, after being online for 7 hours, I'm wiki-fried. I think I'll do some disambiguation pages or something else mindless before I do anything else admin related. Cheers, MBisanz - let me know if you need anything, I'll gladly support your RfA quest! Keeper | 76 22:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, I've been here, I've just moved more into image work to help with the insane NFCC backlog. I'm adopted, one coach retired and another went on a short wiki-break, but I'm still on the straight and narrow to RfA. And oddly enough, at least 2 of the most successful Admin Coaches, The Transhumanist and Durova, aren't actually admins, they just know how to work with others. Doing image work has given me a new persective on the annoying drudgery face around here. Some of the stuff that gets uploaded is amazing but unsourced, and some of the sourced content leaves me sctatching my head and wondering who would ever be interested in topic X. MBisanz talk 22:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Re: Poodlebug
Yes, I have an account on Wiktionary. The biggest problem with Wikt is not the introduction of neologisms; it is the introduction of unsourced information, period. I consider a sourced neologism to be superior to an unsourced word in moderately common to uncommon use (say Wikt:laser for the former and Wikt:sylph for the latter). One of the strengths of Wiktionary is to be able to deal with newly emerging or extremely uncommon though valid terms through sourcing their emergence and use. However, sourcing is more of a problem to get editors to do over there than it is here, and we know what a problem it is here. Regards, User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
You correctly warned the IP. Just block with a test5 between 2 brackets, for the next time. I have much less patience with IP's than real users. Bearian (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, and said so at ANI. I too have less patience with IPs, and this looks like a kid who gets home from school and wants to see how much he/she can do before Mom gets home. Don't range block unless there's a big discussion with lots of people that concur – you need to understand how IP addresses are doled out, and if you don't, range blocking is not for you. This isn't one of those times. There's a fine selection of blocking templates at WP:UTM and an even wider array at Category:User block templates. Welcome to the janitor's closet! :-) KrakatoaKatie 22:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't range block this either. With this type of IP vandalism, after three warnings, I block for either 15 minutes or two hours. It works well for - what is likely - a kid and does not inadvertently block a legit user if the IP address is re-assigned after the frustrated kid powers his computer down and goes out to play. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 02:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hello there again, young janitor – FYI, when you close AFDs, you need to put the top template above the headline, not below. If you don't, the log page for that date gets messed up and Mathbot doesn't count it as closed. Guess how I learned that? ;-)
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RE: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rjd0060 2
I'm glad I gave somebody a positive impression ;-) . Thanks for the great comments. I appreciate it. - Rjd0060 (talk) 19:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
RfA
You didn't need to do that at all, but I appreciate it muchly. This is obviously a stressful time for me, but that just, er, well... Thanks. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 19:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- I was going to say "takes out small onion..." but I am genuinely choked at present from the support, and sitting it out while the DRAAAAAHHMA unfolds. Meanwhile, it looks as if I'm going to get dragged into another ArbCom case. Ho hum. Thanks again. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 21:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
RfA thank-spam
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It ain't easy
Getting 3 blocks in 2 days. But I think I'm in the clear now.--EndlessDan 01:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello Clarence
Nah, I gotcha. I'll make sure it's not linked to any page or any body and I'll throw another CSD up. Just doing some sprucing up. --EndlessDan 20:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, no, no. I'm not packing out. If I was leaving, that scene a few days ago on my talk page would have looked a lot the end of Scarface. It will take a lot more then that to get rid of ol' Dan. Besides, there's like 9 months till Arb Com elections. And I'm sure these will help get me the democratic vote. --EndlessDan 21:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
RFA
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Lame duck argument
The typical DR process hasn't flown out of the window with the addition of term limits; it's still in place. And if it fails, the term limit evaluation will kick in to enforce accountability by the community at large. Your lame duck argument assumes that an administrator will not be subject to DR when its reach is the same. The difference is that DR at the arbcom level is a check by admins - admins judging other admins. The term limits evaluation by the community is the balance, a homage to the Roman assemblies of the people. —Viriditas | Talk 18:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
Cheers for that, I'm not the sort of guy to go round spamming with pretty pics so heartfelt gratitude for your support is all you're going to get!. Now (rolls up sleeves), there's vandals in them thar hills. Thanks again. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 17:21, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Airmen's cave
Lacitpo (talk) 01:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC) I'm rewriting the article, following all the guidelines I can find about writing a new article. I'm citing credible sources, not infringing copyrited material, and structuring as close to the best other cave article I've been able to find. I'm doing this in the talk page at the moment and wondered if maybe I could message when I finish to have it looked over. I'm not trying to spam wikipedia here, just put up an article that I, and I am positive many others would benefit from. I just didnt' realize how hard it was to get an article into wikipedia. Lacitpo (talk) 01:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- article rewritten in the talk page, can you give me any critique on it before I attempt to re-submit it? Talk:Airmen's_Cave —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacitpo (talk • contribs) 01:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
my first
I will not make personal attacks anymoreVandleBlaster (talk) 00:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a link on one of his freinds pages. I was asked to sign up and vote when the time was right. I'm not voting for him though (as you know) —Preceding unsigned comment added by VandleBlaster (talk • contribs) 00:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- That would be a personal attack. I promised the other person that I would not get involved with that anymore. Not sure why you would suggest that when it is clear that I choose to make my own decision. I am not going to make any more derogatory comments, but he can get his votes elsewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VandleBlaster (talk • contribs) 00:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- "That makes you one of these (link to a definition for an unethical individual)" As I stated, I was asked to sign up, I did, but I voted my conscience, not what was requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VandleBlaster (talk • contribs) 00:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Will do, SineBot told me the same thing. I am going to log off now. I have caused enough grief for 1 night.VandleBlaster (talk) 00:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, I made a PA yesterday, I fessed up, and it is on my page for all to see. I can correct the verbage in my vote if you would like. I would still like to vote. Please advise.
- Will do, SineBot told me the same thing. I am going to log off now. I have caused enough grief for 1 night.VandleBlaster (talk) 00:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- "That makes you one of these (link to a definition for an unethical individual)" As I stated, I was asked to sign up, I did, but I voted my conscience, not what was requested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VandleBlaster (talk • contribs) 00:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
and almost forgot(4xtilde): VandleBlaster (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I will attempt to strikeout, that may be past me. When I looked at what this guy that I was supposed to vote for was all about, I found traits that I did not like. Case in point is in an arbitration(?) discussion, where I see lots of efforts to "Win" at his various points and interpretation of the regs(I think they ar 'polocies and guidelines') instead of resolving the problems at hand. I hope that none of this is considered a PA on the individual as I am only attempting to answer your question as to the reasoning behind my vote. I think my 1st edit was consise and to the point. I quickly learned that I need to package my thoughts in a more acceptable manner to this forum.VandleBlaster (talk) 20:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I may have stepped on your edit. I have used the s in the carrots that you used on my page to strike out. I have made an attempt at an educated statement on my opinion and I have apologized to those offended by my 1st remark.VandleBlaster (talk) 20:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I will attempt to strikeout, that may be past me. When I looked at what this guy that I was supposed to vote for was all about, I found traits that I did not like. Case in point is in an arbitration(?) discussion, where I see lots of efforts to "Win" at his various points and interpretation of the regs(I think they ar 'polocies and guidelines') instead of resolving the problems at hand. I hope that none of this is considered a PA on the individual as I am only attempting to answer your question as to the reasoning behind my vote. I think my 1st edit was consise and to the point. I quickly learned that I need to package my thoughts in a more acceptable manner to this forum.VandleBlaster (talk) 20:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
inciviliy
Ssshh! (chuckling quietly to myself) Dlohcierekim 19:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm, I nearly blocked for incivility and disruption. Thoughts? Dlohcierekim 19:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
heilige scheisst
Is German for "sacre merde" <<accent marks omitted due to failing french in 8th grade.>>20:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I don't usually use that type of language, but it's "Holy crap" in English. LOL Dlohcierekim 20:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fortunately, "Sacre merde" has no accents that I know of. There is nothing to omit there. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- This is why I switched to German. Dlohcierekim 20:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- PS will now go soak my head and my twitchy trigger figure. Dlohcierekim 20:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Laughs
Glad you like them. The first, I saw on a message board somewhere, so pinched it for my own use; the other is my own. I'm always on the lookout for this sort of thing, it lightens things up. I'm thinking of starting a page for Smith Jones's unique wit. You might also like this exchange. Cheers.--Rodhullandemu (Talk) 22:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oh that is just pure gold! I missed that first time around, but now I'll know who to send for if I ever mess up a cut & paste move. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 22:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing Cache
Hello Keeper, I hope you are doing well. I was wondering what the best way is to have Wikipedia delete the cache, so that a discussion of deleted article (at the user's request) does not show up on a google search? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steno895 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear Keeper,Any thoughts on my request? I'd really appreciate if you could help me out on this one. Steno895 (talk) 18:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for getting back to me keeper. I was wondering then, if you could just delete my username and talk subpages, pursuant to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Right_to_vanish. It says to contact an administrator. Thank you again for all of your help in this process. I really appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steno895 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Keeper!
Could you unprotect my userpage? I need to write something on it. Cheers, Rudget. 17:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like User:Wimt beat me to it. Let me know if/when you want it reprotected. Cheers my friend, hope you're well. Keeper | 76 18:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Rudget. 18:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I just unprotected your user talk also, and removed the redirect. Not that I want you to get flooded with new messages, but until your rename goes through, you should really have a working talkpage otherwise people will likely just fill up your userpage. I hope that your rename is not an RTV - you've got a great reputation around here and I for one am glad to see you returning. (but you know that), Cheers, Keeper | 76 18:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Rudget. 18:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
HYACKs (MN)
I don't need the information per se, but I don't even have the contributing editor's username to let them know that they need to rewrite the lost information. If you want to post the text back into my userpage, I'll incorporate it back into my article. Thanks. Mullins421 (talk) 01:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
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Ultraexactzz is now an Administrator
My RfA was successful, and closed with 44 Supports, 6 Opposes, and 1 Neutral. For your support, you have my thanks - I fully intend to live up to the lofty yet not-a-big-deal responsibility you have granted me. For those who opposed my candidacy, I value your input and advice, and hope that I may prove worthy of your trust. Special thanks to both Rudget and bibliomaniac15 for their expert coaching and guidance. I look forward to serving the project, my fellow editors, the pursuit of higher knowledge, et cetera, et cetera. Again, you have my thanks. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 01:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Permission
Do you mind if I use you as my default clerk for recall if I were to pass an RfA? User:MBisanz/Recall? MBisanz talk 03:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
RfA thanks from Happy-melon
I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated, as is all the work you do for the LOCE. Happy‑melon 09:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Closing of the AFD on Air pollution dispersion modeling books
Keeper76: I agree thoroughly with your closing of the Afd debate on the above article and your renaming it as [[:Bibliography of atmospheric dispersion modeling]].
- I have reworded the lead-in sentence to be consistent with the new name.
- I have added the Category:Biographies to the article.
- I have placed a {{main}} tag on the Atmospheric dispersion modeling#Further reading section.
- As time allows, I will slowly change the link in each of the articles that linked to the old title.
I can think of nothing else that needs to be cleaned up in the article to be consistent with the Afd discussion. Would it be appropriate for me to now remove the "cleanup afd" tag you placed on the article? I will watch for your response on this page. - mbeychok (talk) 06:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
NYG: 30
Pats: 27
MVP: Amani Toomer
R.I.P.: Me.
Endless Dan 15:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Return
Thanks. I look forward to working with you again, if you ever need a second, third, fourth... opinion then just ask. Regards, Rudget. 16:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Of course not. :P Rudget. 16:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Handshake
Hi Keeper76,
I think you may have just deleted a page I was just editing. It concerns the folk band Handshake. Is there anything I did wrong with the page? I think it may have been a notability thing? Do I need to add proof of releases and media coverage etc next time?
Is it possible to re-edit the original page or must I start again?
Thanks for any help,kerrykez13
- Kerrykez13, I replied on your talk page. Thanks! Keeper | 76 22:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
proposed delete
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==About the "Not Equal" sign on Miami (FL) in the Bowl Games 2007-08==
The reason it's there is that Dolphin Stadium, where the Orange Bowl Game is played, will be the new home field for the University of Miami (Florida) Hurricanes football program starting in 2008. Hope that clears it up. NoseNuggets (talk) 3:21 PM US EST Dec 28 2007.
Vikings
Good job with your edits this season too! Finalnight (talk)
All My Sons Moving and Storage Company
Hello Keeper76,Thank you very much for your advice. Some sources that you requested that I have come across are press releases abou All My Sons as well as the hit reality show Extreme Makeover. On that site, there is a link back to All My Sons which I think has set the company apart. As the codes have stated, I wanted to make sure that you understand this is not an advertising for the company in any way shape or form. Rather, I want to put up the history of the company and the impact it has made in various metropolitan cities across the United States. If there is any direction in which you can point me in to make my information comply with the standards of Wikipedia, I am all ears. I await your response Keeper76 and hope to hear your advice. Thanks again for keeping such a great encyclopedia free to users across the web.
A7
You asked me to mention any questions I had with your first batches of deletions. A7 does not apply to works of creative works, such as Snakes and Ladders (film) its a broad group of things specifically exempted in WP:CSD. On the other hand, you can speedy the author and the actors as A7, just not the film.
- and I'd have done Adrian martens as nonsense, based on the last sentence of the 1st para. And G4 can be used only for recreation after XfD, not just multiple justified speedies. After a totally unjustified re-creation, I usually also give a warning.
- More important, Anthony turner asserts starring roles --may be unjustifed, but it would be for afd.
The temptation is to go too fast. You'll see some complaints on my talk page. some are justified--they've generally been when I've been in a rush , or tired, or even a little lazy & took a short-cut.
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Page on Maumenee deleted
Dear Keeper76:
I was surprised to see that the entry for Irene H. Maumenee was deleted.
I added the entry; i slightly revised text on website: http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/wilmer/employees/cvs/Maumenee.html
I am the original author of this text; I wrote it when I was employed by the Wilmer Eye Institute at Johns Hopkins.
I clearly did not understand how this works. Even though I am the original author, does Johns Hopkins now own the copyright?
If so, I'm merely curious. Why are pages of other Johns Hopkins faculty still included?
How do I go about resubmitting information about Dr. Maumenee?
Many thanks.
Would you kindly reply to tnm@jhmi.edu?
Bests,
-tom mitchell tnm@jhmi.edu
Psychohistory AfD
Er, why did you close this AfD early? JoshuaZ (talk) 17:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi JoshuaZ. I closed the debate early because it really wasn't a debate about whether to keep or delete the article. It was a debate about what content should or should not be included in the article. Therefore, as a content dispute, I recommended that the debate be moved to the talkpage of the article. I am aware of at least one discussion that has happened/is happening on DGG's talkpage between DGG and User:Slrubenstein here. Thanks, Keeper | 76 15:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Spiritualism (philosophy)
Hi,
could I get a copy of the text for the article on Spiritualism (philosophy) as I would like to keep working on it in a sandbox.
It was not wrong. There is a bit of a cultural divide going on here,and spillage from an edit war on Modern Spiritualism as in Europe spiritualism is used in this context.
I would be happy if you could dump the content on my talk page.
Thanks. --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 14:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. At the very least I might remake a redirect to idealism which, apparently, is how it is described more commonly in the US now. I need to look at that article a bit. Classically in Europe it was Spiritualism. --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 15:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Sitakunda again
If you don't mind me pestering you again, would you take another look at Sitakunda Upazila? The article has gone through much change, especially in the domain of copyediting since you did wonders in improving it. But, I guess, there still are quite a few copy issues lingering. Cheers. Aditya(talk • contribs) 19:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
The solution in such cases is to userfy and use {{nn-userfy}} on the talk page; this works most of the time, in my experience. Cheers, Guy (Help!) 23:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. This particular article was speedied once, recreated, and then the speedy was attempted again but removed from the article by the article creator (presumably the editor and the article's subject are one and the same (COI)). From what I can tell, the speedy was removed by the creator of the article (not a legitimate removal as you know), and then brought to AfD. I tried speedy deleting it per CSD:A7 again and it was removed because of the AfD. I brought it to the attention of an uninvolved editor to try and save the creator some grief, but it seems the best course at this time is to just let the AfD play out. Your thoughts? Keeper | 76 23:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Semi protection isn't going to do any good, since the two edit warriors are long-established users. Corvus cornixtalk 00:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Article bans? I've already suggested to one of them that he go to RfC, but he doesn't seem so inclined. Corvus cornixtalk 00:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll suggest it at ANI. Thanks. Corvus cornixtalk 00:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- You know, sometimes I think it would be just great to send Smith Jones in to negotiate, in the absence of Bruce Willis. His influence would be truly different. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed. He is a lesson to us all, and clearly differently gifted. Reminds me of Lance-Corporal_Jack_Jones somewhat. Bless him! --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm not into scoring ethno-superiority points here, but <blush> I agree with respect to The Office. I've seen the US version and it seems to relate more to Curb Your Enthusiasm/Seinfeld than to anything we would recognise here. To my mind, the comedy of embarrassment doesn't generally seem to translate well for a US audience. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed. He is a lesson to us all, and clearly differently gifted. Reminds me of Lance-Corporal_Jack_Jones somewhat. Bless him! --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 01:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Katran (Myst)
How exactly do the keeps outweigh the deletes? As I'm sure you know, articles must have reliable sources in order to assert notability, and fictional topics are not exempt from that. Their only argument was that the character exists within the fiction. That has nothing to do with providing a real world context. TTN (talk) 22:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Give me a sec, I'll go look at it again. I close several AfDs every day. I'll reply to your question within the hour. Cheers, Keeper | 76 22:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- My sincere apologies for the delay. Things got a bit crazy IRL. It seems the debate was basically a discussion as to whether a main character in a novel and video game is considered notable. Precedence says yes. Two of the delete voices said "fails WP:V". Verifiability really only means can the statements and assertions be verified? The answer is yes. It is separate from the notability issue. The "keep" voices seemed to grasp Verifiability at its essence better and also addressed the notability concerns. DGG explained the idea of subarticles well, but I don't agree that this particular character's article should therefore be unreferenced. It needs references or an unref tag. (And I believe references are out there). There is no deadline.
- All that to say, of course I have no real interest in the article or the article's subject matter. The debate had gone stale, it was 8 days old and I was clearing the backlog that day. If you wish to list the debate at WP:DRV, by all means do it. Or find references, or tag it as unref, watchlist it, and renominate in a few months. Cheers mate, happy editing. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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You'll be receiving an email within the next hour. Regards, Rudget. 19:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, it doesn't matter then. Thanks for telling me. Rudget. 20:00, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- It won't be for a co-nomination anyway.... *laughs* - it was about the RFC. But it doesn't matter, I probably wouldn't end up sending it anyway, I always forget to send emails to people when I promise them. :) Rudget. 20:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. :) Rudget. 20:19, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- It won't be for a co-nomination anyway.... *laughs* - it was about the RFC. But it doesn't matter, I probably wouldn't end up sending it anyway, I always forget to send emails to people when I promise them. :) Rudget. 20:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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Changing an AFD to either withdraw it, or change to speedy
Hi you just closed an AFD for a band which upon further review could have been speedied as both the band's website and myspace were dead links, and only had some real trivial coverage. In the comments you said it could have been speedied. If, after I have nominated an article that either the AFD could have been withdrawn or speedied, is their any procedure for changing your position as a nominator? I'm just looking for a policy to point to or something. Thanks in advance -Optigan13 (talk) 04:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Optigan13. Fair question. No, there really isn't a procedure beyond just changing your own opinion and stating as much on the AfD page. For speedies, let someone else add speedy to your delete. Usually, a "speedy candidate" ends up in AfD after the speedy has been declined or "hangon"-ed by the originating author. If its obvious though, the closing admin will take care of it. As for withdrawing (basically changing to keep) there have been a few times where I've been a nominator for an article that I ended up withdrawing. One that comes to mind from a while ago was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paola Cavalieri. Read through that to see an example of what I mean. I nominated the article on grounds of notability after I was unable to substantiate any of the claims of notability in the article. Others were able to find what I was not able to find (not sure what I was drinking ;-). The easiest way to get something "withdrawn" is to strike your nomination statement and add a statement below in the comments section apologizing profusely for slogging the community through a needless AfD. There really is no procedure, persay, that can remove the nom, especially if others agree with you by saying delete. Once it's there, it's there. I've actually seen a "withdrawn" by nominator that ended up still being deleted by consensus even though the nominator switched teams and was fighting for the keep...don't remember what it was though. On that note, if you find it happening a lot that your noms are getting withdrawn by you, you should probably recheck your criteria for sending something through AfD in the first place. You'll notice on the deletion policy page that it is quite strongly recommended, you could even say required, that you attempt to clean, source, edit, expand, improve, source, edit, clean, expand, source, and clean the article before nominating for deletion. Deletion is a last resort. Have I answered your question? I tend to ramble although you probably noticed.....Cheers mate, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, it basically amounts to you nominated it, you bought it. So if you started a nom, you can change your opinion just like everyone else and a snowball close might take place, but you don't own the nomination just like you don't own any pages you've worked on. Also with the speedy tag, if you didn't initially mark it as speedy, you can't accelerate it, just hope a lot of others join and it might get a snowball delete. Also looking at the afd you linked, showing your work in the form of links to searches you did helps. I actually found the articles I linked through cleanup by month, so I did try to do the cleanups, references, and generally tried to write for the enemey before I nominated it. The other thing I noticed is that cleanup seems to be a pretty generic tag for articles where generally poor article setup includes lacking sources and notability, in addition to general layout issues. -Optigan13 (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Concerning Kamal Karna Roy
Hi Keeper76, I noticed that you blocked the IP address that kept recreating the Kamal Karna Roy talkpage. I noticed the same material on this page and wondered if this could be deleted as well or whether it was immune as part of the sandbox. Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 20:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)