User talk:Moe Epsilon/Archive 30
ThanksThanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. :) Thingg⊕⊗ 15:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Thingg⊕⊗ has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
FlyleafYou can't just come in late in the argument and insist upon things. The consensus was to leave alternative in the opening. There are in excess of 30 sources to back this up. I have and will continue to to revert your changes, Discuss this on talk page before reverting from consensus. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 04:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Go and read the archived discussion, the consensus was to have the primary genre alternative rock, because the vast majority of our sources supported alt rock instead of metal. Consensus was also to have it in the opening. What is absurd is for you to not even read the consensus and assume this, and for you to think you can make controversial changes after a genre war went on for over a month without so much as discussing it. As for your little comma thing, you have TONS of articles to do that to, because nearly all of the ones I have seen do not use that method. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 04:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Are you declining to answer my question? --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 06:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Talk:Flyleaf discussionHey Kaiba, I understand if you're rather pissed about this situation; I'm not happy about how some users have handled themselves. However, I'd appreciate your input on the Flyleaf talk page in determining proper consensus for listing alternative rock or alternative metal in the lead sentence. Thanks. GlassCobra 14:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC) Landon1980 and 76.177.242.179Hi, do you know anyone who has checkuser ability? I have reason to believe that 76.177.242.179 and Landon1980 are the same person. I quote from each one's edit summaries reverting additions of rock to the lead in Flyleaf, "do not mess with lead", in those exact words. They also seem to edit many of the same articles, such as August Burns Red and Flyleaf, and they seem to also behave similarly to Hoponpop69 (I've been in several arguments with him), but I'd like to see a checkuser done on Landon. I believe he is sockpuppeting to try and reach consensus in his favor. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's against policy and merits a checkuser. Timmeh! 23:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Message from User:UvantsThank you very much for taking time to remove the images and leave a message for me. I am sorry for putting the images to unfair usage. Thank you Janith (talk) 11:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC) Image:ShwanSS02.jpgI can see your point about the PPV article using a standard free-use image. However, for the biography page, any old image just won't work. The image needs to feature him with the championship, otherwise, there's no point to having it. And as stated in the fair-use rational, which I added BTW, the short length of the reign, plus the time since the reign (now at over 5.5 years) means the chance of finding a free-use replacement is slim to none. Mshake3 (talk) 04:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
HIMI looked them up on Allmusic... all the genres discussed are listed... Why can't they all the genres by in the infobox? They all are well cited.--Dr who1975 (talk) 14:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Moe Epsilon / SaveOurSouls777A third username change? Guroadrunner (talk) 13:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Cake (band)I have reverted your moving of this article and the talk page conversation is irrelavent. Policy is very clear about all caps trademarked names, please read Wikipedia:NAMING#Use standard English for titles even if trademarks encourage otherwise. Regards, — Κaiba 22:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Edits to my talk pageI should be grateful if you could please explain the rationale for this edit: [1]. As I was in the middle of an appeal to ArbCom, it was rather assuming the result of that appeal. Thanks.--Poetlister (talk) 11:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Why not active in WP:PWIf I may ask a question from one Steeler fan to another why are you not active in WP:PW anymore? You were one of the best user's let me know or if it's personal I understand :) <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 00:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I'm glad there has only been one edit since the protection gueuss who did it lol. <font-family:"Tahoma">#1 Metallica Fan Your Hancock 20:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC) Pseudo-stupid question...?"If your message is rude, templated, and/or begins with "Welcome to Wikipedia!", it will be reverted instantly without a reply. Note: Thank you notes in templates are not included in this warning." Why? CJ Miller. (That's my name.Don't wear it out.) 02:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Bootleg videos as sourcesWT:PW#Intercontinental Title Article - the dispute has popped up again. I'm too lazy to deal with it myself :P; would you care to help out? Cheers, -The Hybrid- 03:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC) Nevermind. How's life, BTW. It's been a while since we've talked. Peace, -The Hybrid- 07:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
So, is Moe Epsilon your global account now? Cheers, The Hybrid 19:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
RollbackI've granted you rollback on your account. I've also removed rollback on the account you're no longer using. I would say good luck with the tool, give links to practice and offer help, but you don't need that. :( Happy editing though! PeterSymonds (talk) 19:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Found poetryHey, I noticed you reverted vandalism on found poetry. I was wondering if you can watchlist it, since it seems to get that sort of thing a lot. Thanks. --Justpassin (talk) 00:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC) Just noticed the main one does. Sorry. I hadn't looked at it in a while.--WillC 04:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC) Could you..Hey Moe, hope your doing well. I was wondering whether you could do a MoS clean-up on December to Dismember (2006) as it is currently undergoing an FAR. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Moving pictures to Wikimedia CommonsIf you have a Wikimedia account and are able to move them, that would be great. I wasn't trying to make extra work for anyone, so I apologize for apparently uploading them to the wrong place. GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:07, 6 July 2008 (UTC) Re: Table formattingOk, that's great. Thanks for cleaning up after me! I'm not very good with formatting/tables/etc, so I appreciate all the help. I don't see a problem with your way, so I'll switch! Thanks for explaining and lettting me know :) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Issue at CommonsI don't know much about how the Commons works, but I know you do, so I thought you might be interested in Image:Diva.jpg. It is clearly a photo from WWE.com or a screenshot, as nobody from the audience could get a shot like that. It needs to be removed from the Commons as a copyright violation. Nikki311 16:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Wrestling wikiCould you help at it sometime soon? I feel a little overwelmed with trying to figure out guidelines and such by myself. RobJ1981 (talk) 11:42, 31 July 2008 (UTC) Koavf and bilateral relation moves, againHi. Please refer to this note. Thanks. Regards, El_C 08:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC) Youtube VideoHey tell me what you think Moe: [URL removed] Frehley 0 (talk) 03:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
This isn't about just one person moe. By the way thanks for abandoning me when I needed you the most. Pay attention to this one. You will not only hear my voice but you might learn something. Frehley 0 (talk) 15:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
E-mail me. I have enabled it. This is important. Frehley 0 (talk) 04:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC) RE:VandalismI'm sorry, but so many Ip's had vandalize between your edits, I had to revert back to an old revision. Best, --SRX 02:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Help requestHi, I have a favor to ask. I'm doing a GA review for an article, and the only thing holding it up is a lack of source information for one of the images. User:Dknights411, the original uploader, has confirmed that he took the picture. However, it has since been transferred to Wikimedia Commons. Would you be able to edit the description page there for http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LarryOBrienTrophies.jpg and add ""Photo taken by original uploader (User:Dknights411)"? I would really appreciate this. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
SummerSlam2001poster.jpgCan you place in the source information for Image:SummerSlam2001poster.jpg?--WillC 23:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC) Please accept this invite!!
I know you don't have a-lot of free time but it would be nice having a user of your caliber on the member's list. After all...not every one is as good as editor, or has as many edits as you ;) SteelersFan-94 18:22, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
QuestionCan you give me the source to where you found File:SummerSlam2000poster.jpg? It was deleted and I got it restored. I'm trying to fix the license problem, but I don't have the source to the image.--WillC 23:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Source information for File:PrefSymbol-Saga.pngHi, Moe Epsilon (formerly Kaiba?). I have just tagged File:PrefSymbol-Saga.png as missing source information, because the source provided is ja.wikipedia.org. Wikipedia cannot be its own source—we need outside, third-party sources. (For one thing, there is no evidence provided that this image has been published outside Wikipedia, as required by the fourth non-free content criterion.) If you know the original source of this image, please provide it on the image description page. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. —Bkell (talk) 07:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
RE:Vince's DevilsI agree that it is dumb, but I think you know that I don't just create pointless articles/templates all over the place. It is one of the Good topic criteria that the articles be connected using a template, so I had to make it if I wanted to make Wikipedia:Featured topics/Vince's Devils. I didn't make one at first, but User:NiciVampireHeart had to make one for Wikipedia:Featured topics/Hardy Boyz, and in the discussion, it was pointed out that Vince's Devils needed one too, so I made it. Nikki♥311 00:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
RE:I understand the references, but what you did was copy info from the Alumni (70s) page and you put it back. That's is what needs consensus. If you want to put refs, put it in the alumni (70s) please. SimonKSK 22:13, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Alumni listIs it just me, or do you think the "notes on being released" column is very, very trivial. I think it should be deleted. The references can have their own column. iMatthew // talk // 00:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
I know you hate me now but I'm trying to assume good faith here by trying to resolute our dispute. This started with the thing at WT:PW and I believe I took it to far by stating that you were hunting me down at the above FLC, and I apologize for that. But don't remove my comments because you hate me, I'm trying to be civil and resolved this so we can be on good terms. But don't oppose the list because of this, per the FLC instructions, your oppose can not be enacted upon and will not count when the FLC closes unless you give me a more thorough reason for the opposition.--TRUCO 20:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
List of WWE alumniI like how you are fixing up the WWE alumni page so I'm following your lead and working on the TNA alumni page in my sandbox (User:Nikki311/sandbox3). It's a lot of tedious work, so kudos to you for working so hard and getting so much accomplished. Nikki♥311 21:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Your edit at User talk:AntidoteRe: this edit, redirected talk pages are an extremely bad idea because automated scripts like Twinkle and others still try to post to them. Because of a database quirk (see bug 7304 and my comment there), MediaWiki can get very confused when there is text containing a link after a redirect. For example, if you type "#redirect [[Chocolate]] I like [[basketball]]" on a page, the what links here tool will report that the page redirects to basketball as well as chocolate. To cut to the chase, see the deletion log for User:Antidote, and how it was deleted semi-automatically with a strange reason - my restoring reason is equally as weird, but that's because I was trying to figure out what was going on. I agree that there are wayyy too many image warnings on Antidote's talk page, so I've replaced the redirect with
WP:MMA, flagsHey, if you can be bothered despite being "shot down" last time: I brought up the discussion about flags being (improperly) used in MMA articles at WT:MMA again, with a proposal to remove them. Hope you can chip in :) --aktsu (t / c) 14:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
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What the hell was that for? You totally messed up the WWE Allumni Page to where it's pratically unreadable. Now it takes forever to load and you're using a lot of copyrighted material. I'm reporting to the proper bureas for this.Cena Jr (talk) 06:36, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- First, I don't appreciate your sarcasm. Second, there is zero copyrighted material on the article, everything is free content. The old revision contained several violations of WP:BLP and the majority of the content was unsourced. In addition, I have added a couple hundred extra references. Every point you just brought to me is moot. — Moe ε 06:46, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- FYI: see User:Cena Jr. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, you were using em dashes, I moved the wrestling articles to en dashes. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
This is an em dash, which is incorrect: —
This is an en dash, which is what I moved the lists to: – (notice the code on the edit screen). Dabomb87 (talk) 23:20, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Triple Crown
Just to give you a heads up, I'll take care of the TNA Triple Crown section. I have it on my To Do List.--WillC 03:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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TCC/GSC templates
I based them on Template:WWE Champions, and Template:Royal Rumble Winners. Both of which have sidebars. I would remove them but I find template box code rather perilous. If you can do the honours. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Cheers. Darrenhusted (talk) 18:32, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- And also for following my edits and tidying up the massive navbox sections. Darrenhusted (talk) 19:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Honky Tonk Man Website
Hi, I can see from the history you are the guy editing my links.
The honkytonkman's new official website is honkytonkman.net so please stop reverting this.
It is 100% official and I am doing the website for him.
If you goto www.nativetatanka.com, Tatanka's official website you can see he quite clearly credits me on his website all over the place.
The Honky Tonk website will be launched this weekend. The old dot com is owned by a radio page and has no affiliation with The Honky Tonk Man.
I do indeed web design and host for some of the wrestling legends.
Kind regards
Stephen Wilton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Machomadness (talk • contribs) 17:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I am afraid I don't know what your talking about. To my knowledge I have not made any changes related to the external links of the Honky Tonk Man article. According to the history of the article, the person you need to speak to is User:206.69.160.42, who keeps changing it back. — Moe ε 17:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
WWE Template edits
I find this particular edit summary baseless [4] How is this edit [5] a blatant reversion of [6]?--UnquestionableTruth-- 00:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
RE:Template:WWE
When a smaller box is laying on top of another box. One has long width, the other has a smaller width. It makes it look wrong. Plus when one or more templates are laying on top of each other in a bigger box. When that box is opened, the WWE is smaller than the rest.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:00, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- That is one thing I'm talking about, once the width of the WWE one is changed back, it will be smaller in that template. The WWE Champions one will be bigger.--WillC---(What the F*** have you done lately???!!) 01:05, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I was going to be I got side tracked.--WillC---Joe's gonna kill you!!!) 23:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
YTMND Wiki
I'm not sure what's up with your login. I've been able to login with no problems. Probably you should delete your temporary data. That editing message is awesome. I'll use it on my page if you don't mind it, but how do you do it? --wL<speak·check> 08:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I'll try and get back on YTMND wiki soon and try again. Oh, the thing that says 'vandals stop here'? Thats at User:Moe Epsilon/Editnotice and User talk:Moe Epsilon/Editnotice. If you want to create one, just go to your username/Editnotice and add the edit notice template. :) — Moe ε 08:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Template:WWEPPV
Please don't break {{WWEPPV}} parameters again. Thanks. —Ms2ger (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- The use of parameters on that template is completely unnecessary. {{Navbox}} is the standard for all navigational templates and when I return later today I am removing the parameters and reinserting the navbox template. Removing the template navbox function hurts articles that use the {{Navboxes}} template to hide multiple templates. — Moe ε 19:15, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Then I hope you'll understand when I revert the edits you make against consensus. —Ms2ger (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't take kindly to vague threats. Anyways, how is it consensus to continue using outdated versions of templates? Look at the ECW December to Dismember article for example, and look at what the outdated template formatting does to it. Looking at a different article I can now see what the parameter is used for. Instead of removing the parameter, I'll include the parameter in the new formatting, but {{Navbox}} is going to be included, it is the most desirable way to format templates. — Moe ε 21:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I made a working revision of the same template using the parameter and the Navbox template in one. I'll implement it later. — Moe ε 22:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- The problem in ECW December to Dismember does not have anything to do withe using {{Navbox}} or not, but is just a coincidental consequence of the fact that it uses HTML tables instead of wikitables; and I believe it is a bug in {{Navboxes}} that it doesn't support that. Now I fixed it, it displays just like the other navboxes.
- I am pleased, though, to read that you'll keep the parameters.
- I'd also like to see an explanation of why "[{{Navbox}}] is the most desirable way to format templates". (I suppose you mean navigational footer templates.) There definitely is no consensus to force meta-templates on templates where they aren't necessary. Finally, if you do try to use {{Navbox}}, please make sure the odd/even row highlighting remains correct. —Ms2ger (talk) 08:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- ECW December to Dismember was messed up because the Navboxes template doesn't support templates that use HTML based templates rather than ones based on Navbox. Since I am putting {{Navboxes}} on most articles to keep clutter to a minimum, it is desirable to make it so templates won't mess up like on the ECW DTD article.
- I'm not sure what you mean by the odd/even row highlighting, I assume you mean the background color for the odd and even rows. There is no background color in particular for the odd/even rows of the WWEPPV template currently, and the new formatting won't have it either, so I don't know what you mean exactly by saying 'keep it correct'.
- The format for the new syntax is very similar, but there is one small change. For the normal pay-per-views, it would be {{WWEPPV|No Way Out}}, etc., and for the In Your House pay-per-view called No Way Out, for example, it would be {{WWEPPV|No Way Out|In Your House}}. That's not the small change, that is the way it is at present and the new template will still do that. But the only way to make In Your House pay-per-views that have no counterpart appear normally (i.e. In Your House 1 (has no counterpart pay-per-view like No Way Out) the format will have to be altered to appear as {{WWEPPV|n/a|In Your House}} (with n/a defining no first parameter like No Way Out).
- All in all, that small adjustment (adding 'n/a' to a couple In Your House article's templates) is fairly minor compared to having major syntax error to Navboxes and the WWEPPV template using old formatting styles. In addition to that, when the new formatting goes in, we will no longer have to keep excessive templates that the old formatting had transclusions of (like Template:Royal Rumble, Template:SummerSlam, etc.) as the new formatting has all the pay-per-views built into it and changes in and out when a new parameter is defined. I'll probably nominate them for deletion as unused orphans once the transfer is made.
- Right now I'm a little busy and have a computer-related problem, so the template will be finished within the next two days probably. All I have to do is add the remaining pay-per-views, test out the usage of the parameters in my sandbox and it should be fine to be placed in the main template namespace. If you want to see the syntax of the template (only has the SummerSlam, Royal Rumble, No Way Out, In Your House PPVs right now) you can see it at User:Moe Epsilon/sandbox3 and for example article transclusion, you can see User:Moe Epsilon/sandbox2. — Moe ε 11:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- I finished a little earlier than I thought I would, so I am going to implement it now, unless there are any problems (which I don't believe there is. — Moe ε 13:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Again, that's a bug in {{Navboxes}}.
- "the new formatting won't have it either"—the version in your sandbox actually does, and suffers from the problem I was referring to: when only one parameter is given, the row backgrounds are white–white–gray, which looks pretty silly.
- I still don't see why using {{Navbox}} is necessary, but it looks like you're going to keep pushing for it. —Ms2ger (talk) 13:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I'll correct the color mistake. I can't see it very well, but I'll edit it so white is primary color for all rows. Navbox is necessary because if multiple templates are put on a article, then Navboxes will remove the clutter and combine the templates to a single collapsable template. I don't know if that is important to you or not, but for others including myself, that feature needs to be implemented for more articles. — Moe ε 13:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Then I hope you'll understand when I revert the edits you make against consensus. —Ms2ger (talk) 19:43, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
"Hyena?"
[7] Um. Maybe because I have the current newsletter (like I do to all current newsletter editions) on my watchlist? There's no need to battle over something on the newsletter my friend. Happy Editing.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 02:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)