Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aleksandr Surikov (diplomat)
Aleksandr Surikov (diplomat)
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Fails GNG and NBIO. Recently deceased Russian diplomat. Sources found in article and BEFORE fail WP:SIRS. Source eval:
| Comments | Source |
|---|---|
| Government obit, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source | 1. www.mid.ru https://www.mid.ru/ru/activity/shots/vnutrivedomstvennye_novosti/nekrologi_pamyati_kolleg/1949977/ . Retrieved 2024-05-13 . |
| Government decree, fails WP:IS, does not contain SIGCOV about the subject. | 2. ^ "Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of July 29, 2017 No. 348 “On the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Mozambique”" . Archived from the original on 2019-01-26 . Retrieved 2017-09-14 . |
| Government decree, fails WP:IS, does not contain SIGCOV about the subject. | 3. ^ "Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of February 16, 2018 No. 76 “On the Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation in the Kingdom of Swaziland on a part-time basis”" . Archived from the original on 2018-02-16 . Retrieved 2018-02-16 . |
| Government obit, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source | 4. ^ www.mid.ru https://www.mid.ru/ru/activity/shots/vnutrivedomstvennye_novosti/nekrologi_pamyati_kolleg/1949977/ . Retrieved 2024-05-13 . |
| Obit based on government sources, fails WP:SIRS, all the normal obit problems plus the Russian government should not be considered a reliable source | 5. ^ "Russian Ambassador to Mozambique Died" . TACC (in Russian) . Retrieved 2024-05-13 . |
BEFORE found name mentions and government statements they released, and an interview, nothing meet WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth from independent reliable sources. // Timothy :: talk 02:02, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: First and foremost, lower your tone while nominating the article for deletion. Secondly, government decrees can be used as secondary sources as if you can type the full name in a Russian, many sources will pop up, (in Russian of course), apart from the official government statement. Here's my third point, he is the ambassador to Mozambique, the highest office of any diplomat in office. Would you delete the ambassador of the United States of Mozambique for that reason? Ivan Milenin (talk) 02:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bilateral relations, Africa, and Russia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete 3 of the sources are primary. The other is routine coverage of his unfortunate death. Fails WP:BIO. Ambassadors are not inherently notable. LibStar (talk) 03:58, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep I'm leaning to keep, but if if it's drafted... I wouldn't be surprised as well.Ivan Milenin (talk) 05:55, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion leans delete at the time of this relist, but further participation would be beneficial for establishing a clear consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 15:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Keep I decided to keep because even if the some coverage had been lacking, I found some source that could suffice these... Ivan Milenin (talk) 22:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC) [1] [2]