Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ana Kasparian (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - merging is an editorial decision, which may be made on the talk page, or not, as consensus determines. Wily D 06:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ana Kasparian

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Concerns at previous AFD were not properly addressed with guideline/policy based arguments. Still fails WP:GNG. None of the sources in the article/last AFD are independant and substantial, all passing mentions. Only one which may qualify is http://www.armenianweekly.com/2010/10/19/sassounian-media-unfairly-bashes-all-armenians-because-of-alleged-crimes-of-a-few/ which was a one off incident. Hasn't been shown to be notable outside of the The Young Turks (talk show). Otterathome (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the biographical information to The Young Turks (talk show). There's currently nothing there in the "co hosts" section so a quick bio of Ugyur and Kasparian could be given. The biography section in this article would do. - filelake shoe 16:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or merge, the article does not contain a single reliable independent source.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge is certainly a viable option here, considering the short length of both articles.--Otterathome (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - seems to be a fairly notable TV presenter and producer both online and on a TV channel broadcast across the U.S. Plenty of news coverage from notable sources in the last few weeks alone [1] and a cited journalist in scholarly sources [2]. SplashScreen (talk) 09:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SplashScreen, your WP:SOURCESEARCH has only brought up passing mentions and unrelated pages, and I can't see anything about the subject in the second source. But guessing it's another passing mention. So this doesn't address the issues raised.--Otterathome (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per prior AfD which only closed 2 months ago, and failed to obtain even one delete vote, as the subject, though not super-notable, meets WP:GNG. Armenian sources are still valid sources.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 16:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

while "being Armenian" doesnt disqualify a source; being only trivial coverage/and or directly related to the subject of the article DOES disqualify a source from providing evidence that the subject is notable. -- The Red Pen of Doom 19:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Please disclose all these Armenian sources you speak of that are not passing mentions so it can pass WP:GNG, thanks.--Otterathome (talk) 19:47, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 05:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As I read through this article, I come into realization that it deserves to be deleted on the basis of notability. Ana Kasparian is not a notable individual who deserves an encyclopedic entry due to the fact, there is a substantial lack of information about this "host" in the public square. In other words, she is to be considered as a private citizen in which she shall be treated as a private citizen; if in the future, like a Year from now, she builds up reputation in the public square then somebody could create an Article with details, verifiable sources, and non-copyrighted images unlike this article at this time. American Patriot J (talk) 21:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Ana Kasparian is a notable individual who has had articles written about her, most recently as of June 6,2012. Doing a quick search for her online, I found five recent articles with Ana's name in the headline directly or indirectly as 'Young Turks Host/Co-Host'. Albeit the search results for Kasparian don't compare to that of Uygur's there are articles written about her nonetheless, which people are claiming there are a lack thereof.

Young Turks Co-Host Says SE Cupp Would Be Proud Of Pretty Woman Prostitute

The Young Turks’ Ana Kasparian ‘Distracted’ By Fox News Host’s Legs

‘Young Turk’ to ‘sexist’ Fox News host: ‘F*ck you!’

The Young Turks‘ Ana Kasparian On Greg Gutfeld’s NOW Comment: ‘F**k You’

Ana Kasparian Explains How Louisiana Sheriffs Are Motivated To Incarcerate

Livingonradio13 16:09pm, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing in those pages about her, just commentary on the show. The sources are pretty sub-standard too.[3][4].--Otterathome (talk) 00:44, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - There's not a single truly independent source. But I believe this should be deleted on the basis of notability. 5 articles does not mean a person is noticable. I personally have 5 articles, do I deserve a Wikipage? I believe the answer is no. Her search results do not compare with that of Uygur's. I therefore believe this article should either be deleted or preferably merged. 26oo (talk) 07:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

many of the sources that reference her are independent of her. the 5 article thing is a straw man. if your 5 articles are because you're a high school spelling bee champion of Elko County, Nevada, then no, you don't deserve an article. most wiki editors are like most humans in all of history, we're not notable, we just like knowledge. some of us don't like knowledge and wish to see it deleted as unworthy of knowing.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 04:35, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One is not likely to know Ana if it isn't associated with the Young Turks. When I look at Kim Kardashian, I don't associated her with her reality tv show. That's why I think it should be deleted or merged. 26oo (talk) 02:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to The Young Turks (talk show). I don't think there's a need for a separate article here; she doesn't have much notability independent of the show, and this article adds very little information anyway. Robofish (talk) 22:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Ana Kasparian is extremely notable. Many articles have mentioned her, she is the co-host of a very notable show. To delete Ana Kasparian's article, you could make the same argument about deleting arguments on people like random CNN/MSNBC/Fox anchors who don't have a show in their name. If we keep with this argument, we can say that any reporter that's not a huge part of the network doesn't deserve to have their own Wikipedia article (and thus we must delete all the other articles). TYT also gets a lot of viewers (more than most local tv news reports get), and Ana is a huge part of the series, she is the co-host of it.Gamer9832 (talk) 21:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to The Young Turks (talk show) - there is not enough significant coverage at reliable sources to merit a stand-alone article, but enough information to warrant a merge with the talk show article. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per Gamer9832. Gage (talk) 04:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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