Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brandon Diau

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 01:35, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Brandon Diau

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Contested PROD. Non-professional player who has not received significant coverage, the best is this which is fairly brief, primarily an interview, and certainly not enough on its own. Giant Snowman 12:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 12:55, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think the BBC World Service piece, Eurosport article and fotboli article just about combine to get him over the notability line. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 15:58, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC piece is a 2 minute clip, the Fotboli is a routine transfer article. I have already said the Eurosport one is OK. Giant Snowman 16:56, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per above. Besides the sources above and in the article, I found [1] and [2], among many more sources. Has ongoing career. why just trying to delete all of User:Dietermueller76's articles..., this article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 16:40, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of those are reliable sources - and where are the "many more" you mention? Giant Snowman 16:57, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with GS. Neither of those are WP:RS. See First Time Finish and Exposport. Too much of a low bar for being able to write on those sites. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:53, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, Africa, and Germany. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:17, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of SIGCOV Alvaldi (talk) 19:21, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clear fails of WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:21, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Signed several professional Football Contracts. Is mentioned in Several News Articles. BBC one of English most known news outlets https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/63880346.amp
Germanys biggest Sport News Article next to sky https://11freunde.de/artikel/ich-schlief-auf-der-straße/3372492
and the links that were already mentioned. There are so many footballers on here with less coverage so dont understand the discussion Dietermueller76 (talk) 13:01, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, the argument being made is that Diau does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. That is a lot to read, so I will try to explain the problem myself.
First off, playing professionally doesn't mean you are entitled to an article. Secondly, just being mentioned in articles isn't enough to prove notability. He needs whole articles about him (he has a few, but most seem to agree they don't provide enough coverage).
The link your provided in 11 Freunde unfortunately doesn't help. It is an interview, so it is the subject's own words. We need to hear what other people are saying about him.
Finally, there are thousands or even millions of Wikipedia articles that need to be deleted because they are not notable. Many are nominated every day and this article is just one of them. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dietermueller76 Unfortunately neither is WP:SIGCOV as [3] is a match recap that trivially mentions him twice and [4] is a Q&A interview that has no independent prose. Articles of other footballers who fail WP:GNG should also be taken to AfD. Alvaldi (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, clearly passes GNG with significant coverage from reputable outlets.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:24, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The BBC clip is mostly primary (Diau speaking) with a few text overlays -- this is not SIGCOV in IRS. The Fotbolti piece is routine transfer news. We need more sources of SIGCOV. JoelleJay (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 08:03, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I agree with Alvaldi's source analysis above - much of the available coverage isn't from reliable sources, isn't secondary or isn't in-depth. The best coverage is probably from exposport, but there is no evidence that it qualifies as a reliable source, and we would need another piece of WP:SIGCOV to satisfy WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I've given this a little more thought after initially saying keep. But looking at it again, I have to agree the sources I said were enough...well, they're not. I should have paid more attention to the BBC piece in the first place. One more piece of SIGCOV would be enough to get the article over the line IMO but we aren't there yet. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 16:03, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nominator. DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 23:24, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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