Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daphne Blunt

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Daphne Blunt

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I fail to see how Blunt is actually notable under WP:NACTOR, her roles are all one-off, mostly uncredited/unnamed, as in single appearances and certainly nothing that's received meaningful coverage and she isn't notable as a blogger or model. Perhaps it's too soon, perhaps she will never be notable but this is basically a filler resume that has no place on WP. PRAXIDICAE🌈 10:03, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, and Kansas. Shellwood (talk) 10:18, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete There is a lack of significant independant coverage to meet WP:GNG. There are some interviews, but most of the sources referenced regarding "international attention" for instance are just a passing mention of her. Beyond WP:NACTOR, certainly doesn't meet WP:MUSICIAN either. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Radio Disney My Dream series, where Blunt is the complete cast, has "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." Her other roles described are not mostly uncredited/unnamed (22 of 23 are credited and named), and many are on major networks (e.g., Disney, Nickelodeon, ABC, Fox) on shows that also receive significant coverage. A hiatus was taken while Blunt attended college. She graduated from Georgetown University in 2019. Attention was apparently given to this page when we began to update her site with recent credits for directing, acting and her work as an influencer for numerous national and international brands including Giorgio Armani, Revolve, Estee Lauder, Prada and Savage XZ Fenty. We would hope to get the chance to make these updates and continue to have Wikipedia as a source of information on Daphne. Wiki1289 (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete Please allow updates. Wiki1289 (talk) 23:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wiki1289, thank you for your comments. Firstly though, I wanted to flag that I've left a message on your talk page asking you to confirm if you have any connection to the subject, as it sounded like a potential WP:COI. In any case, which would you say are the WP:THREE most significant independant sources? What is Blunt's input to the My Dream series? Was she was writer/producer, or just the cast member? I got the impression it was a scripted series. Also WP:PLEASEDONT isn't a valid argument on AfD as what matters is what sourcing exists to show notability (as per WP:NEXIST), not what is currently on the article. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. First, let me say that this page has been up for five years and previously passed all scrutiny. Now that I am attempting to update it with new activity and sources, this discussion has been initiated. Second, I do have an "external relationship" with the subject of the page; I am not being paid. Third, the three most significant independent sources would be IMDB, The Hollywood Reporter and CBS. I agree that sourcing needs to be updated, which is what I was attempting to do. Blunt was the only cast member for the My Dream series, not a writer/producer. It was a scripted series. IMDB lists all of her acting credits, which are not insignificant. There are new things to add, most recently her appearance in the Olivier Tree "Cowboys Don't Cry" music video and poster/billboards for his world tour. https://store.olivertreemusic.com/products/cowboy-tears-cd-hand-initialed-poster She is also in the top 10% of social influencers according to FOHR, even though it suggested otherwise in this discussion. My initial initial changes this week were summarily undone even though the deletion discussion notice says "please feel free to improve this article" while the discussion is underway. Wiki1289 (talk) 18:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It being an WP:OLDARTICLE just may mean that no-one had gotten around to assessing it before now against today's notability guidelines. The reason I asked about if she was a writer/producer was to determine if WP:NCREATIVE was relavent, but it sounds like WP:NACTOR is the relavent clause to consider here, or at least WP:ANYBIO. For the sources, IMDB isn't considered a WP:RELIABLE source on Wikipedia, as per WP:IMDB, and the https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/radio-disney-air-scripted-serial-25059/ article only mentions her in passing. Would you be able to provide a link to the CBS source? As the one on the page seems to be broken unfortunately. I don't think appearing in a music video or being on posters, etc. counts much for notability unless there are independant sources that discuss it. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Would you be able to point to the FOHR reference too, in case that can help the case for notability? -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There were many articles about the premier of My Dream, since it was novel that Disney was putting out a radio serial.https://web.archive.org/web/20100703190256/http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2010/06/29/radio-disney.html https://www.rbr.com/radio-disney-to-debut-radio-play-my-dream/ https://web.archive.org/web/20120309030028/http://news.muzi.com/news/ll/english/10101558.shtml?cc=10005 https://www.news24.com/News24/Disney-revives-the-radio-serial-20100628. This and her other work on Disney, Nickelodeon ABC would seem to meet the WP:NACTOR requirement: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." The work speaks for itself. Here is the FOHR link: https://app.fohr.co/daphneblunt?key=e6e843866b5393c76b1054d17ee2147f Her TikTok presence is several times larger than reported here, so her standing has likely risen. https://www.tiktok.com/@daphneblunt_?_t=8V1m7wwtqSh&_r=1. Thanks Wiki1289 (talk) 20:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I just notice that My Dream and Blunt are included in the Wikipedia Radio Disney page. Radio Disney Wiki1289 (talk) 21:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep SAG/AFTRA credited roles over 10 year period WP:NACTOR Raylan McCrae (talk) 03:27, 25 August 2022 (UTC)— Raylan McCrae (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment I don't think social media stats count much towards Wikipedia notability, unless there is some independant coverage of them. -Kj cheetham (talk) 11:52, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FOHR is basically a linked in page for actors, we can't use it for notability. Her roles seem minor/trivial, certainly not a major role. She was not the principal cast member in any of them you've listed from what I could see. None of these help support notability and almost prove that GNG hasn't been met. Oaktree b (talk) 02:49, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki1289 is also the author of the photo used in her article, I'd strongly suspect COI. Oaktree b (talk) 02:46, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete falls short of meeting WP:NACTOR. Not convinced that the roles are notable, also not seeing SIGCOV.-KH-1 (talk) 13:02, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I give credited work in SAG tv or film presumption of being notable
Dotb9 (talk) 20:25, 26 August 2022 (UTC)— Dotb9 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Being in the union isn't notable. You pay, you are a union member. Oaktree b (talk) 02:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:33, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 02:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete being in the union isn't a sign of wiki notability. Pay and you are a member. Beyond trivial pieces showing the parties she's attended, I see nothing to support keeping the article; mostly has bit parts in TV shows and the rest isn't useful for our purposes. Oaktree b (talk) 02:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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