Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guo Xiaojun

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The result was Consensus is KEEP. Dreadstar ☥ 08:44, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested PROD. This guy is famous only for his arrest and unlike Guo Feixiong, he hasn't done anything remarkable. Clearly this is WP:BLP1E.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 02:26, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I completed the nom for the IP. Ansh666 03:20, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.180.172.239.231 (talk) 04:06, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 04:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nomination unless coverage in non-Falun Gong sources is added. TLA 3x ♭ → ♮ 04:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article includes 20 citations, only one of which is a Falun Gong source.TheBlueCanoe 12:15, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

None of them are used to verify anything notable that is not related to his ordeal. TLA 3x ♭ → ♮ 15:58, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, sources by Amnesty International and United Nations, he is the subject of European Parliament discussion. Let's delete vandalism, not a "prisoner of conscience". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. He's a university professor twice-imprisoned as a prisoner of conscience, with significant and recurring coverage from Amnesty International, in addition to the UN, EU parliament, BBC news, etc. Doesn't meet criteria for deletion under BLP1E.TheBlueCanoe 12:15, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Firstly, he is not a professor but a lecturer, thus fails WP:PROF. Indeed, he is a prisoner of conscience, but unlike other prisoners of conscience in China, he hasn't done anything remarkable. He was arrested only because he was a practitioner of Falun Gong. In my own view, being the practitioner of Falun Gong may not be regarded as something unusual. Actually thousands of Falun Gong practitioners are arrested in China every year, he is just one of them. What makes he distinguish from these thousands of victims is the media coverage of his case. A person who is only famous as the victim of a case may not meet WP:BIO. If the case itself is notable enough (passes WP:EVENT), we should create a new article about the case, then redirect this BIO to the new article. If not, delete. @TheBlueCanoe: --180.172.239.231 (talk) 13:22, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: With coverage from Amnesty International, UNHCHR, BBC and others, there's no question but that there is a notable topic. I am sympathetic to the view that BLP1E needs to be considered, and perhaps the article should be renamed "Imprisonment of Guo Xiaojun" (with the current title as a redirect) because the controversy over the imprisonment and the events leading up to it form the bulk of the present article. --RexxS (talk) 16:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep: Anyone listed as a prisoner of conscience by Amnesty International clearly meets WP:GNG. Nominator also should be rangeblocked as a sock hiding behind an anon IP,very first edit is a prod tag; the IP geolocates to China probably a vigilante at best, at worst, an attempt by a minion of the Chinese government to suppress the very existence of this individual. Montanabw^(talk) 18:57, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply I nominated this article for deletion because the corresponding article on zhwiki had been nomintaed and the notability standards of the two wikis are almost the same.--180.172.239.231 (talk) 02:27, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought Nivekin proposed the deletion in the Chinese Wikipedia.--Good afternoon (talk) 11:22, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, WP:BLP1E--Shizhao (talk) 01:27, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nomination. --Good afternoon (talk) 11:22, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Not a BLP1E issue. He has significant coverage outside of his arrest sufficient to pass the notability threshold. For example, this article relates to students from Shanghai Jiao Tong University protesting about his persecution by the Chinese government. There is a lot more coverage out there in Chinese sources - perfectly valid in Wikipedia terms to avoid systematic bias.  Philg88 ^♦talk 07:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Sufficient coverage to meet the notability guideline and with the two arrests I do not see this as a WP:BLP1E issue per TheBlueCanoe. Davewild (talk) 07:55, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.