Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secular Christmas stories

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Secular Christmas stories

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The topic may be notable, but this unreferenced essay with OR issues has remained unchanged for over 10 years. I think it is time for WP:TNT. Note that I started a properly referenced Christmas in fiction where this could redirect to, if desired, but I don't think any merge is helpful (given it would merge unreferenced, possible OR). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:51, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- keep and fix. I dont like the idea waiting to see you write a better article, no hard feelings, when you can just overwrite this one . Goldenrowley (talk) 10:03, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  @Goldenrowley Overwrite implies what I am suggesting: deleting the existing content and replacing it with the referenced stuff I wrote. Per WP:TNT. Please clarify if this is what you mean. Note that the existing content fails WP:V and possibly WP:OR, and that nobody bothered to fix it (verify and reference) in over 12 years. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:02, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with using WP:TNT here. The article has barely been touched for 13 years, and is still unreferenced. If Goldenrowley or anyone else wants to take responsibility for the cleanup and referencing of this, I might switch to a keep, since I don't think the topic is inherently unnotable. -- asilvering (talk) 23:58, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Christmas in literature, which is a harmless list. This is a mere ESSAY. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Peterkingiron Wouldn't Christmas in fiction, the referenced prose article, be better? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:38, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The discussion seems to be leaning towards redirect or delete, but there is not consensus on a target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, snood1205 19:00, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Unreferenced, and appears to be WP:OR. Merging would be inappropriate due to this fact, and I wouldn't really support a Redirect at this point, as neither of the proposed Redirect targets actually mention the concept currently. Rorshacma (talk) 21:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Some people might be well-served by a list of secular Christmas stories, perhaps as a subcategory of Category:Christmas children's books, but this is not that list.
Delete There is no properly sourced content here, so there's nothing to merge. Neither proposed redirect target covers the topic at present, so redirecting there would not be appropriate. TompaDompa (talk) 23:11, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.