Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Grove (Maple Grove, Minnesota)

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The result was delete. Nearly three weeks after the only non delete vote, which wasn't particularly strong and wanted sources. No objection to the creation of a redirect should one be so desired, but this is an extremely unlikely search term. Star Mississippi 02:13, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Grove (Maple Grove, Minnesota)

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First off, there seems to be little evidence that this shopping center is even called "The Grove". Hempel Companies, the leasing agent, calls it The Grove Village.

Furthermore, the sourcing is almost nonexistant:

Source 1 is about the Target store in the greater context of Target in the Twin Cities
Sources 3 and 5 are WP:PRIMARY.
Source 4 is a store closing list for Office Depot that only mentions the Grove store in passing.
Source 6 is purely about Aldi.
Source 7 is about the real estate company that owned the center.
Source 8 is about health offices that seem to be independent of the property.

While a shopping center of 500,000 SF or higher would generally be notable, Hempel doesn't even seem to consider Home Depot and Target as part of the property, just the little strip comprising about 10-15 stores. Subtract the office space and the size goes down even further. It's barely even a neighborhood strip mall at this point. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:20, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This area of Maple Grove is only notable at the local level, and "The Grove" is nonexistent as an entity.TH1980 (talk) 03:15, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:15, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The sourcing clearly is not there on this one.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:16, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. My first impression when I came to the article was to list it for deletion myself, but I did not do so because apparently the mall once met the standard for notability. It was authored by Carbrera, who certainly seems to have the ability to improve it, if he chooses. If he does not so choose, I suggest a merge with Maple Grove, Minnesota, where it and a similar mall are already listed. Kablammo (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For consideration of the merge proposal above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 06:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 10:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.