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File:Unity Through Education Tour.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Michaelbandit (notify | contribs).

• orphaned, no source, target article/encyc use unclear` Skier Dude (talk) 02:05, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:The seer ep.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Flygui (notify | contribs).

• album cover, uploader most likely not (c) holder Skier Dude (talk) 02:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 02:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Superdeedooper.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Peppy-games (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 02:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This image was created by User Peppy-games and added to the article Beat the Whites with the Red Wedge on March 9, 2008 (see [1]). The image addition was almost immediately reverted. Judging by the total of the user's contributions, it would appear that this image is vandalism. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 04:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:MediciNicola.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Harrisonlatour (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 02:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This appears to be some sort of genealogical record. I can't see any encyclopedic use for it. The contributor has a very troublesome history of uploading copyrighted and non-notable images, almost all of which have been deleted (see contributor's talk page). The contributor was also blocked at least twice for disruptive editing. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ballard High School-2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Shakespeare (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, replaced by File:Ballard High School-1.jpg. JaGa^talk 02:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Orphan, replaced by a very similar picture. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Lukas Salkauskas in 2008.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HalFas (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 02:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Orphan, no known encyclopedic use. The description says that the subject is Lukas Salkauskas, for whom there is no entry in Wikipedia. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Keanu.PNG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kecooler (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. Found at Orphaned images in Category:Self-published work. JaGa^talk 02:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This is apparently a picture of the contributor himself but he has not placed it on his user page, so it would appear he does not want it. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:JonasVogler.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Ericbarch (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 02:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. A picture of a boy beside the railroad tracks. No known encyclopedic value. Wikipedia is not Myspace and not a repository of images. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low quality, little encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 03:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, meant for deleted Photostax article. JaGa^talk 03:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• orphaned, target article/encyc use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 04:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• orphaned, superseded by .png version, target article/encyc use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 04:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• orphaned, target article/encyc. use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 05:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Superseded by PNG: File:CheltenhamSp.png •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• orphaned, target article/encyc use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 05:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Gatena Davis Football.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Gosugatena (notify | contribs).

• orphaned, target article/encyc. use unclear Skier Dude (talk) 06:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - I believe the photograph was meant for Steve Gatena, and the picture was uploaded by the article subject himself (pictured in the image). --Mosmof (talk) 16:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete as failing NFCC#8 and probably NFCC#2. In response to Arcayne's notes below...it is up to those seeking to keep non-free images to show how they pass the 10 NFCC requirements, and for others to refute...not usually the other way round. - Peripitus (Talk) 06:37, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:HWood 1973.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Arcayne (notify | contribs).

• CopyvioWP:NFCC#2 violation from a news source Damiens.rf 12:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - the image is not a copyvio, as it has a fair use rationale in place, which properly fulfills fair use criteria. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: It has been established in the past that any images marked as Fair Use can not be deleted as a copyvio. If that is the only discussion on this image this should be kept and this discussion speedily closed. Soundvisions1 (talk) 17:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It fails NFCC#2. I've changed the nomination, in any case. --Damiens.rf 18:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How precisely does it interfere or become likely to "replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media"? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Violates NFCC2 and NFCC8. NFCC2 is a little bit iffy but I think still failing. The copyright holder is a news agency who would love to make us pay to use this image. If Britannica uses this image, it also has to pay. They took this photo for the very reason of licensing it to organizations like Wikipedia. (The iffy part is that their primary profit purpose was probably short-term, but I think this is nonetheless not respecting commercial opportunities.) Most importantly, this fails WP:NFCC8. There is simply nothing going on in the photo that readers need to see the photo to understand. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - My apologies, but you are mistaken. To begin with, as you are not privy to the news agency's thoughts, perhaps it isn't in our best interests to read motives into actions not taken. Saying they took this photo back in '73 to license it to Wikipedia a quarter of a century later is just plain silly. It's not a free image, but it isn't prohibited, either. Equally, for NFCC8, you are mistaken - perhaps you are expecting the image to carry the day - it doesn't (though it does the job a far sight better than a great many images, imho). This is why we expect non-free images to be tied to the text, explained in fuller context. That the article is new means we roll up our sleeves and tie it to the article better. We don't look for reasons to go on a deletionist tear. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as failing NFCC#8. #2 is unlikely since the image is so old. Stifle (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  Perhaps someone could illuminate - precisely - how it fails #8. I am not seeing it, and I would like to dismiss for myself the concerns of someone trying delete it simply because it is an image in an article; that has happened before. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 16:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ustad_Muhammad_Juman.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• appears to be a screenshot, not selfmade, most of user's uploads have been deleted as apparent copyvios Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Chach_nama.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• no need for a nonfree book cover for a book written c. 1200 AD Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:GM_Syed_1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• all of user's uploads appear to be grabbed from random websites, most have already been deleted Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sindhi_Adabi_Board.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• all of user's uploads appear to be grabbed from random websites, most have already been deleted Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Sindhu.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• probably a logo, though this is unclear. appears nonfree but impossible to write a rationale given absent uploader. no source eitehr. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hilal-e-Pakistan.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• same as above - is this a logo? i can't tell Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Awami_Awaz.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• same as above, though this one is now corrupted so no way to know if it ever was a logo Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ibrat.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• same as above - copyrighted, but unclear what it is, no source Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• all of user's uploads appear to be grabbed from random websites, most have already been deleted Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Gaddar-Group-logo-full.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Qadeermangrio (notify | contribs).

• Orphaned, possible copyvio, unclear encyclopedic value Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Dr._Nabi_Bux_Khan_Baloch.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Mehran_Mangrio (notify | contribs).

• all of user's uploads appear to be grabbed from random websites, most have already been deleted Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Vlcsnap-44953-1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Macae (notify | contribs).

• Decorative use of a screenshot from the ABC broadcast. This screenshot would only be appropriate if we were offering critical commentary about ABC's broadcast itself, not because they happened to have a good picture of Colt McCoy getting hit. B (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:A&Mvstu2006 108.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Macae (notify | contribs).

• Screenshot from ABC's broadcast of the game. Would be appropriate only if we were offering critical commentary about ABC's broadcast, not merely because it shows an important play in the game. (Besides, you can't even tell from a still picture who it should be called on.) B (talk) 15:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. -Nv8200p talk 00:05, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Clinton-chung.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jayzel68 (notify | contribs).

• Image showing a man and the Clintons, used just to make the point they were acquainted. Fails WP:NFCC#8. Damiens.rf 16:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Incorrect. The image was used to highlight accusations of impropriety, and is discussed within the text. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry, I really failed to find where in the article is this image is discussed within the text. Can you quote the passage for me? Thanks, --Damiens.rf 22:43, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep What do you want, a passage that says "as illustrated in this picture..."? The image illustrates the relationship between Chung and the Clintons. It bears Hillary Clinton's signature to further drive home the point that Chung was peddling influence improperly. Therefore, 'keep' 68.43.197.22 (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I want is to read about the image significance. Is it really discussed in the article? --Damiens.rf 14:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What you "want" is not the relevant matter, actually. What's relevant is whether or not the typical reader of the article finds that this picture substantially increases their understanding of the topic. A normal person can infer the relevance of the picture by noting the signature from Mrs. Clinton and the buddy-buddy nature of the shot. I should certainly hope that people do not need this spelled out for them. I agree with Crypticfirefly below. Wikipedia is a collaborative project. If you believe that the signature needs to be explicitly referenced in the text, you'd be silly, but I wouldn't object to you adding it in. In any case, I think this best sums up my view of your belief that the relevance of a picture needs to be explicitly stated in the article: "sofixit". 141.214.17.5 (talk) 19:28, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I want may not be of significance for you, but I believe it was to the other anon IP to whom I was replying. --Damiens.rf 20:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'm the same person, just working at a different computer. But it's worth pointing out that arguments do not get their validity on the basis of who is making them. Therefore, regardless of whether or not you think I'm the same IP as above, you should have a counterargument to justify your deletion of the image. 141.214.17.5 (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, first you ask me "What do you want" and, after my reply, you say "What you "want" is not the relevant matter"? Why did you asked me to begin with? --Damiens.rf 12:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was a rhetorical question actually. What I hoped you would respond to was my point that the photo has Hillary's signature on it, thus implicitly clarifying the article's premise that Chung had improper influence with the Clintons. You've not done that adequately - instead, you've used red herrings to divert from the issue at hand. This should serve as adequate proof to any reviewing administrator that there is no good reason to delete this particular image since it serves a valuable purpose in the article. 141.214.37.154 (talk) 17:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep agree with the above-- it is the signature scrawled across it that makes it so significant.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Crypticfirefly (talk • contribs)

  Why isn't this significance discussed in the text? --Damiens.rf 14:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• If you think it needs discusson, why don't you add it? Crypticfirefly (talk) 15:29, 12 February 2009 (UTC) Furthermore, the picture appears to have been taken at the White House, and is signed by Mrs. Clinton. One might infer that it was an official White House photograph and therefore PD. Although this image is all over the Internet, I was not able to track down the original AP source. However, it is likely that the AP image is of the photo with the signature, not an AP photo that Mrs. Clinton signed. As such, I question whether there is any copyrightable content present here in the first place. I am not interested enough in the topic to bother looking further, but I urge you to try to figure out what the status of this image is in the first place. Crypticfirefly (talk) 16:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - The image simply shows that people met. There is not discussion of the image in the text and no argument above that convinces me that reader's understanding is significantly increased by having this. If this image were significant I am sure that reliable sources would have written about it, and I cannot find any record of this. Image fails NFCC#8, NFCC#1 (could be replaced by a piece of (sourced) text describing the meeting - if there is no source then the meeting for wikipedia purposes is unimportant anyway) and NFCC#10 (no rationale on the image page) - Peripitus (Talk) 07:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here are a couple links: [2] [3] [4] [5]

The first link is the picture in question (albeit unautographed) which clarifies that this was a Christmas party in 1994. The next two articles mention the rest of the people in the photo who were at the party. The final link is from a hearing before the House where the same meeting is described. Now, I'm happy to add this information in, but I want to see if it's actually sufficient. I'm not going to waste my time and effort adding a paragraph to this article if the picture is going to be deleted anyway. 68.43.197.22 (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the excellent work above in terms of identifying this image, I was able to locate a Washington Post article that directly explains why it is important and have added the info to the article. Those who think this image should go, please look and see if you still think so. Crypticfirefly (talk) 03:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC) A further comment-- I found the image without the Hillary note in an AP archive (and it is unusually grainy)-- it reads, at the end of the description: "The photo is being used on a busy street in Beijing as a beer advertisement." According to the archive, the picture (of the beer ad) was taken February 23, 1997. The image ID number, if anyone wants to check this, is 9412010358. My point is that the AP credit for the unsigned picture does not mean the signed picture necessarily belongs to the AP. Crypticfirefly (talk) 03:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(Same user, different IP.) No problem. I briefly expanded the fair use rationale on the image. Anything else? 141.214.37.136 (talk) 21:46, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Now the article really discusses about a notable picture (i.e.: one that has an history behind it). The file should no longer be deleted. --Damiens.rf 12:21, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:SamjhautaExpress1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Nishkid64 (notify | contribs).

• Image from Associated Press showing a notable event, used to illustrate the article about that notable event. Fails WP:NFCC#2. Damiens.rf 16:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I am not sure how this image is interfering with the commercial opportunities of the copyright holder, or is being "used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media." - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, their market is to sell the right to use this photograph. This competes with our use, and thus is not allowed. ViperSnake151 01:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Faulty logic. Under this reasoning, no fair use whatsoever is allowed since Wikipedia would be infringing on the copyright holder's right to license the picture. 68.43.197.22 (talk) 05:20, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While this might be true in any case, unless we're commenting on the photograph itself (like say Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima), we're using their picture for free, and hurting them. Licensing the photograph is the original market role. ViperSnake151 12:48, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are missing the point, V; we can use the image if a free image is not available. Additionally, this isn't like the flag-raising over Iwo, where the image itself was history. There were many images of the WWII, but most people know the Iwo image on sight. As well, there are many images of the fire, but this one isn't as memorable or as stand out, though it still helps to explain the article. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 14:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If folks choose to lift a copy of this picture from Wikipedia and then spread it all over the Internet, the original copyright holder can go after them. But really, can you explain to me how, under your logic, any copyrighted image that is not, in and of itself, famous can be used on Wikipedia? 68.43.197.22 (talk) 01:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, fails NFCC#2. Stifle (talk) 22:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• No source - no evidence of GFDL release by author given Papa November (talk) 16:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: - Delete - we do not host press images to simply show that people met. Consensus is it fails NFCC#1,2 and 8 - Peripitus (Talk) 06:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Lucas.Barkley.Wood Stevenson.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Arcayne (notify | contribs).

• Picture copyrighted to a news source, showing a group of men posing to the camera, used just to make the point that these men were together at the occasion. Fails WP:NFCC#2 and WP:NFCC#8. Damiens.rf 17:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - These men had never gathered prior to this event, and the instance is certainly unique enough to satisfy #8, if not the depiction of a federal court judge dressed as Lincoln for an Illinois play favorably reviewed by New York theater critics. As for #2, the image was indeed taken by a news outlet. Just like a great many images within our list of FA-quality articles (which the nominator has also tagged for deletion). - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NFCC#8 does not talks about "unique events".

Did the New York theater critics reviewed this picture? --Damiens.rf 18:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are not a native speaker, i apologize for the suggestion that the reviewer was reviewing the image; he was not. Instead he was reviewing the play that these four notable gentlemen attended. Together. Uniquely. In this case, uniquely also serves as significant. As significant as an image of a federal judge portraying Lincoln on the stage. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 18:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you missed Damiens' point. He meant to highlight rhetorically that you are arguing the event is unique. This is not sufficient for the inclusion of an image of said event. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't miss his point, though I am fairly sure he missed mine. The unique nature of the event (and gathering thereof) means that no free/freer substitute is available. It begs the question as to precisely what sort of image you feel would be more acceptable. Actually, that;s a pretty good question. Offer a good example. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete NFCC8. Simply do not need to see this photo to understand the subject, which is Harlington Wood Jr.. Please read the intro and think what photos would be the very most valuable to the reader to understand this historical figure. This photo clearly is not among the first hundred that I possibly could have wished for, had it not been in the article. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• It also fails NFCC1, because you could just as easily write, in free text, that these men attended the play. Readers don't need a picture that proves it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Now come on, that's just silly, Calliopejen. It doesn't fail NFCC1, as it does not suitably replace a text-only description of the four notable men. As well, it doesn't fail NFCC2 for aforementioned reasons. Thirdly, it doesn't fail NFCC8 - aka, the deletionist's wet dream of an excuse to delete - as explaining the play's unusual attendance and reception is supplemented by the image. Lastly, you are presuming that there are hundreds of notable free images which detail the man's life, which they do not. Please, feel free to find one that meets your criteria. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 20:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as failing NFCC1 (replaceable by text), 2 (conflicts with copyright holder's opportunities), and 8 (doesn't substantially increase readers' understanding). Stifle (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - respectfully, your interpretation is faulty on all three counts. Fulfills #1 in that it assists the text in a discussion of the event in a way that text cannot do alone. By your reasoning, no images are necessary in Wikipedia because they can all be replaced by text. It also fulfills #2 in that the image is pretty old and not likely to be interfered with. Lastly, #8 is clearly fulfilled as it assists in the understanding of the subject matter and the accompanying text. As well, since there are no other images of these four notable gents gathering together. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 04:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned after replacement Hekerui (talk) 18:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 18:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Nice picture, but shows only a sunset over water. The picture could be anywhere and does not really illustrate the subject. The picture was uploaded on December 27, 2007 to illustrate the article Strait of Georgia but is no longer used in that article. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 05:49, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 18:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 18:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low quality. JaGa^talk 18:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value. JaGa^talk 18:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• This orphaned image is either non-notable art or a logo copyvio. JaGa^talk 19:01, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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• OR, LQ --Weatherman1126 (talk) 00:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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