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مرحبًا ◀ A455bcd9 شكرا لمساهماتك أرجو أن لا تُغير الخريطة الحالية إلى خريطة مبنية على حدود حديثة رغم ان اللهجات عابرة للحدود فهي غير واقعية ولا أدري ن أين أتيت بملاحظتك « لن يُحدف هذا الملف، إلا إذا قُدِّم طلب بالحذف في صفحة طلبات الحذف.» تحياتي عادل امبارك ^راسلني 15:01، 25 نوفمبر 2022 (ت ع م)

Hi,

I'm sorry I don't speak Arabic, I hope you don't mind if I write this message in English.

I agree that dialects shouldn't be based on modern borders.

However, the "current map" (Arabic Dialects ar.svg) has bigger issues:

The en:Nubi language is shown in Egypt whereas it is in reality spoken in... Kenya and Uganda!

The en:Somali language is shown as an Arabic dialect

en:Judeo-Arabic dialects are shown only in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem (and not Levantine)

These mistakes are huge and way worse than a few border issues.

Also, the current map is ويكيبيديا:لا أبحاث أصيلة there's no sources.

On the other hand, the new map is fully sourced using a reliable source: en:Ethnologue. I agree that some borders could be improved but I think it's way better than the previous one.

What do you think?

(regarding the message, it comes from here A455bcd9 (نقاش) 16:03، 25 نوفمبر 2022 (ت ع م)

forgot to ping you ◀ Nehaoua A455bcd9 (نقاش) 16:56، 25 نوفمبر 2022 (ت ع م)

• The map that you've been adding everywhere is full of errors, with sways of Arab speaking areas shown as blank and stupid borders separating the same dialects (Arab speakers will understand what I mean). Anyway, the Arabic Wikipedia has its own rules and policies; most important of all, its editors are either Arabs, Arabic speakers or at the very least understand the language. It doesn't have to follow any other project or let any organization that is based thousands of miles away, least of Ethnologue (a Christian evangelical organization), dictate to it what language/dialect the Arabs speak and where. M.Bitton (نقاش) 17:19، 25 نوفمبر 2022 (ت ع م)