Talk:Japan/Archive 18

The layout version of Japan is maintained based on monthly discussions during the Wikipedia:Featured article review/Japan/archive1. Italiano111 (talk) 09:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

That gives neither of you permission to edit-war. Please stop reverting and discuss completely. Nikkimaria (talk) 10:37, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Copied from above talkpage post Chipmunkdavis (talk) 03:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
I was looking back through the history of this article, especially from the period of promotion to need for FAR. When it was promoted, the article had a much simpler structure, for better or worse. I've moved the main headers into the orders they were then, as I can't find any explanation for the change and it seems to be the standard on other FA country articles. I recombined foreign relations and military as whoever divided them didn't even change the text, and just cut the previous section in half. It's a fuzzy area, but I think if peacekeeping is discussed that covers both foreign relations and military, as indeed does the security alliance. Furthermore, considering Japan's military has been very small and restricted since 1946, I'm not sure a standalone military section is WP:DUE. One thing I haven't changed, but was also looking at, was the current infrastructure section. Its questionable whether that belongs under Economy (although of course there are overlaps). Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

The article did a 3 month FAR process in 2011. During the process many users, among them Chipmunkdavis, agreed with the concept of the article. The process ended two weeks ago. The concept of this article, as a country article among ~190 articles, is not unusual. The sections foreign relations and military should be kept separated, as per FAR. These policy fields are typically unrelated in state affairs, another reason why the sections should be kept separated. Italiano111 (talk) 09:45, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

The concept? The FAR didn't discuss this at all, it was just focused on things that prevented it from being an FA. As for the order, a minority of country articles have it, most of them because you yourself changed it (including this one). Furthermore, Foreign Relations and Military are not typically unrelated, often closely entwined (ala France in Cote D'Ivoire). Besides, as I noted above, military in this article by itself is probably undue. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:40, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

So... can I revert back? Chipmunkdavis (talk) 08:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Its all been said I assume. Foreign relations and military are typically not related. You won´t find a ministry in any democracy combinig these tasks. These are large independent policy issues in their own right. Military itself, as you might know, is a standard recommendation to be part of any country entry. Italiano111 (talk) 09:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

They are typically related, especially in the way that articles (such as this one) have been written. How government ministry's are structured is completely irrelevant. As for military being a "standard recommendation", no it's not, don't bullshit. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 11:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

So, considering wikipedia isn't built like a democratic countries government ministries, that argument won't go anywhere. If there's nothing else... Chipmunkdavis (talk) 15:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

by not mentioning the Meiji period or WWII in the lead, arguably both pivotal events in the country's history, more so than the Upper Paleolithic or the first Chinese writings. Tijfo098 (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Also the inclusion of the lowest homicide rate in the lead is questionable. Why not mention for instance that it has a high suicide rates? (I'm not saying that you should included that.) More troubling is that nothing is said about its population density or about its (lack of) mineral resources per capita, both of which have been historically an important factor, at least in the past century; see The Japanese economy pp. 1-6 [1] Tijfo098 (talk) 11:25, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Something more general about low criminality in Japan [2] probably belongs to the lead, but it should be stated in more general terms, and you have to consider it's correlated to its demographics cf. [3]. Tijfo098 (talk) 11:38, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

I've edited the lead slightly to introduce more of history. I added note of expansion and then WWII in history, as well as the atomic bombing, which is extremely important in Japan's history. I have avoided editing demographics for now, because the current information in the lead is cited, and I can't find it in demographics, which would again result in a failing of WP:LEAD. I think the information in the lead should be present in the health subsection. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 09:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

{{edit semi-protected}}Can somebody please update the gini coefficient? CIA.gov has a figure for 2008 which is 37.6. The source is here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2172.html

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by cnel90 (talk • contribs)

 Done Thanks! CTJF83 15:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: In the history of warfare in one day was not killed so many people like the atomic bomb "Little Boy" at Hiroshima, 6 August 1945. year. According to reliable information on the site, killing 80,000 people, a consequence of radiation were later died another 120,000. It`s the time this crime to call by his real name - genocide, and the U.S. President, Nobel Peace Prize, Barack Obama, apologize to the proud Japanese people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.85.114.62.130 (talk) 07:30, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

This is Talk:Japan, a place to discuss improvements to the Japan article, and not a WP:FORUM. If you have something to add to the encyclopedia project, please take it to Talk:Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki; this belongs there, and not here. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Unless I misunderstand the meaning of the term, genocide only applies if the primary motive is ethnic-based, (geno-cide,) so I don't think this would qualify, although one could argue for mass murder. Or maybe I'm being pedantic. Zazaban (talk) 02:17, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

The "List of Japanese cities by population" article needs to be updated to reflect 2010 Census numbers. The article url is found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Japan_by_population

I placed this request in the article page shown above too. I am not sure how to format or edit this but I have provided a format that may be ideal for this article (prefectural capitals shown in bold):

I have all of the data for all Japanese cities and can build a table like this for this page for all cities over 200,000 plus all prefectural capitals. The source for this data is found in the link below:

http://www.stat.go.jp/data/kokusei/2010/jinsoku/zuhyou/jinsoku.xls

I hope this helps and let me know if I can provide the 2010 Census data (in excel format and structured the same format as the above example) to someone who would like to manipulate it or if I can create a table for this page using the above format.

Dbcook256 (talk) 23:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

You can edit the current template at Template:Regions and administrative divisions of Japan. Unfortunately, it would be a bit much to include all the prefectural capitals here, but the table at List of Japanese cities by population can use much expansion. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 06:12, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

{{FIFA Worldcup Host nations}}Bmoq (talk) 15:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't this specifically belong at Japan national football team? Not everything to do with "Japan" should have a navbox, otherwise we'd have 47 navboxes at the end of each country page. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 16:03, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it's too specific for a country article. — Bility (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

> New and used cars are inexpensive [in Japan]

To the contrary! One can only buy a car in Japan after providing proof for ownership or long-term entitlement to a garage slot, for the car's parking use. Garage space rent per year costs more than the price of the car it houses!

Without garage access, the only legal option in Japan is called a "keicar", a diminutive gizmo no honest person would dare to call an able-bodied car. Keicars are as small or even smaller than a Fiat 126 / 500 or about 3/4th of a Mini Morris Minor. A Geo Metro, a.k.a. Suzuki Swift is too LARGE to be an official keicar! 91.82.37.212 (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I would like to ask for clarifications of why the official name of Japan is the "State of Japan". Although the direct translation of 日本国 (Nihon-koku or Nippon-koku) is the "Sovereign State/Country/Nation of Japan", there is no mention of the said title in the official English translation of the Constitution of Japan, which states that the official title of the country in English is purely Japan from the government's official website. Another source of the official name of the country can also be found in the cover and Identity Information Page of the Japanese passport in which only 日本国 and Japan appear, instead of "State of Japan". Although the Japanese language adds the kanji 国 (koku) to any country which has "State of" (e.g. Israel) inside its official name, that does not not apply to Japan itself. Almost every government website including the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs has no "State of Japan" within its title (Someone please prove me wrong and show me an official English translation of a Japanese source which say so). Authoritative sources outside Japan include the CIA World Factbook and Encyclopaedia Britannica have both listed the official name of the country as purely "Japan" without any description to the country. I would like to invite those who claim that the "State of Japan" is the country's constitutionally endorsed official name translated into English to please present me with a government source which says so. Raiolu (talk) 15:44, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I have made clear that State of Japan is a literal translation into English to address your concerns. The fact is "Nippon-koku" or "Nihon-koku" cannot mean the same as simply "Nippon" or "Nihon". Chrisieboy (talk) 11:08, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I thought this was fairly well accepted but I had assumed that, for whatever reason, a desision had been made to drop "State of.." from the article. It seems Raiolu removed it without consulting the talk page first. I support your reinstating of the formal, literal translated name back into the intro. -Peter (talk) 22:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

I understand Chrisieboy's argument that "Nihon/Nippon-koku" does not match "Japan". Literal translations are one thing, but are they the officially recognized title(s), let's say in the English language? A literal translation of 国 as I earlier stated can mean "Country, Nation or (sovereign) State". Yes Chrisieboy is correct if the Japanese government uses the "State of" description as the official title in their English documents or publications, but that clearly does not seem to be the case, as it is purely, "Japan". In an international setting, when English is commonly used, is the Japanese emperor officially titled as the Emperor of the "State of Japan", or is the Prime Minister officially called the Prime Minister of the "State of Japan"? If that is the case, I could also say that since Puerto Rico is known as "Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico" in Spanish, so the conventional long form in English should be the "Associated Free State of Puerto Rico" instead of Commonwealth of Puerto Rico? I believe it is acceptable to state the English literal meaning of the country's official name in its native or national language in the article, but if it is not the universally accepted (see sources in my earlier post) English form of the conventional long name, then the "State of Japan" should not be in conventional long name field. What I propose is "Japan /dʒəˈpæn/ ^ⓘ (Japanese: 日本 Nihon or Nippon; formally 日本国 ^ⓘ or Nihon-koku, literally the State of Japan)..." while in the infobox under Conventional Long Name, it should be purely "Japan". Raiolu (talk) 12:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy with that. Chrisieboy (talk) 18:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems okay. I'll change the infobox long title. -Peter (talk) 22:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Glad to see this was settled amicably. Two thumbs up! Raiolu (talk) 06:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

• Tohoku Area Visit Blog

Kgwikip (talk) 11:53, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

 Not done, non notable & promotional blog--Jac16888 ^Talk 12:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello all,i fail to understand the usage of world map in wikipedia which is not politically correct.i see a part of Kashmir being depicted as part of Pakistan in the map used here. since it is disputed, i request to use appropriate map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.68.253.208 (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

You're kidding, right? I can barely even see Kashmir on this map. In any event, take it up somewhere else--this is a standard globe/map templating that WP uses for most of it's country articles. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:29, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Nihon and Nippon are not different names, but simply different ways to pronounce it in order to simplify pronounciation.A "hardened" h-sound in Japanese becomes a "b", and as an exclusive to the h-soundset, "double hardening" makes it a p-sound. To further harden the sound, what we call a double consonant is used, to make it have more impact. (The tiny tsu/つ in にっぽん indicates the double consonant effect. The maru/small circle at the ほ indicates the hardening of the h sound).

In the article, it appears to be considered very different names. However, assuming I explained well enough, it should be rather clear that it is not considered as such. They can be used interchangeably, even though the "standard form" is Nihon. Nippon is often used for things as sports events, speeches, or other places where you want impact on the country name.I suggest a change of the explanation into something along the lines of "The Japanese name for Japan is Nihon (日本, にほん), however, it is often pronounced as Nippon (にっぽん, same kanji), when the speaker wishes for a greater impact, such as in speeches, or at sports events.".

(I'd edit it myself, but it's a semi-protected article, and I haven't had a user here until now. Far too lazy, seeing I was able to edit other articles anonymously. ;) ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joushou (talk • contribs) 15:43, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Japan itself differentiates between the two 'forms' of the name. This is the correct usage. It would also be a bad idea to favour one Anglicised spelling/pronunciation over the other - no one pronunciation is 'official'. Peter (talk) 17:42, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Tokyo is not the capitol city of Japan, as Tokyo is not a city at all. It is a prefecture. onggoybuhay at gmail dot com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.2.122 (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

See the article Capital of Japan--it is the de facto capital, even if it is not legally so. And there's no reason why a prefecture can't be a capital of a sovereign state; the capital of the US is Washington, D.C., which is a "federal district"; New Delhi, the capital of India, is both a city and a district. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, the capital of the UK is London - a large metropolitan and administrative region (for administrative purposes called "Greater London) which includes the City of London
In the case of a "capital city" (and the word city is optional) city is basically synonymous with any large metropolitan or named area with a lot of people. Whilst Japan is not a city administratively, it is a metropolitan by standard definitions and technically a 'city' in the simplest sense of the word. -- Peter ^{Talk page} 14:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

"After Singapore, Japan has the lowest homicide rate (including attempted homicide) in the world.[10] "

After checking the cited link, the word Japan is no where to be found. Please either find the correct citation or remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.255.27.41 (talk) 02:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The actual info is [4]; but I'm going to need to read it more carefully to figure out exactly what it verifies; my quick glance shows Japan tied for lost rate in Asia (w/Hong Kong and Signapore, see p. 94), but I want to read more closely before editing. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:25, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The article claims "The Michelin Guide has awarded Japanese cities more Michelin stars than the rest of the world combined," but the Michelin Guide page contradicts this. The reference given for this claim is in Japanese, and my knowledge of that language isn't good enough for me to absolutely say that the reference does not support the claim, though I'm pretty sure it doesn't. I'd recommend striking this last sentence in the cuisine section, unless someone objects. Kemperb (talk) 20:01, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: "Bulletproof". It`s called the world first iPhone that is bulletproof. Produced by Japanese company "Marudai". It looks like a brick, weights over two pounds and costs 650 dollars. Who likes - is welcome.85.114.62.130 (talk) 14:07, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

I've noticed that Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar from Rijeka, Primorsko-Goranska says a lot of things. However, does Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar know that Wikipedia article talk pages are not used as discussion forums? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 16:00, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

"As of 2008, 46.4 percent of energy in Japan is produced from petroleum, 21.4 percent from coal, 16.7 percent from natural gas, 9.7 percent from nuclear power, and 2.9 percent from hydro power." should have "percent of energy in Japan is produced from" be replaced with "percent of energy capacity in Japan is from". The numbers look suspect though, as that is closer to the production values from 1990. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basroil (talk • contribs) 04:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Japan switched off its last working nuclear-reactor at Tomari in Hokkaido, living country without atomic-electricity. Nuclear-free Japan, a good example for other countries. 85.114.62.130 (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I've added that info with a source (though, without the editorializing, of course). Qwyrxian (talk) 23:20, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Japan is supposed to have the best positive influence in the world by country (source).--MärgRätik (talk) 12:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

In article Japan it says that there are 173 airports in Japan and in article Transport in Japan it says that there are 176 airports. Which is correct?195.26.73.130 (talk) 20:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Japan `s Tamae Watanabe Pensioner (73 years) is the oldest woman in history to conquer one of the peaks of Mount Everest, 8850 meters high peak on the north side of the mountain. She did this together with four members of the team.78.2.79.80 (talk) 20:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

10/10 quality post, would read again on a more serious note, why is the IP from Canada? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 21:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Mickey Mouse in Disneyland in Tokyo announced that the theme park is now open to same-sex marriage. The only problem is its high cost. However, it might attract tourists from around the world in the "land of the rising sun."78.2.79.80 (talk) 21:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: The thinnest screen in the world is made of soap! It was invented by Yoichi Ochai, Tokyo University, and the image is displayed on the bubble. Unlike conventional screens, soap bubble varying transparency and reflection on what the image shows a combination of several of these screens can create a 3D effect, said Alexis Oyama, a member of the research team. This innovation will soon be presented at Siggraph conference, which will be dedicated to computer graphics and interactive technology.93.137.42.0 (talk) 16:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Great. But not sure if this can really be incorporated into the article.-- Peter ^{Talk page} 20:02, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Definitely not--and this has the tone of being copied exactly from somewhere else, anyway. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Tidbits from "Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar" have been put on many talk pages by a few IPs. Usually far too detailed to include, and never with a source. CMD (talk) 11:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Needs consideration or reconsideration I think.

Galfromohio (talk) 03:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps someday it could be added to the soap bubble article. Or even just soap. ☮Soap☮ 04:01, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I feel that Wikipedia benefits if people are encouraged to explore. Thus Wikipedia would surely benefit from mutual links between Portal:Japan and this article, but maybe it's best to get a consensus before going ahead. LittleBen (talk) 04:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hatnote added 24th August has definitely increased traffic. LittleBen (talk) 01:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Why population_census = 128,056,026?
On http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/kokusei/pdf/20111026.pdf write: The population of Japan is 128,057,352 as of October 1, 2010.
And no mention of the number 128,056,026. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.149.21.208 (talk) 17:18, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Japanese companies via Hitachi has revealed the way in which data can save hundreds of millions of years, Croatian daily 24 hours. Precise laser to 2 centimeters big quartz glass embed the binary data and do virtually indestructible, the memory that will survive even the apocalypse!78.2.86.100 (talk) 03:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Aww man how exciting! Thanks for the quality news update, Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar! -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:06, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

There is a Request for comment about the question "does a largest cities template/city population template add value to the articles about nations (esp. featured ones)?" This is an open invitation for participating in the request for comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/City population templates. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. Mrt3366^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 09:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why this article has been placed in that category - Is Japan currently considered to be an "empire" in any sense of the word?Also, Category:Japan currently belongs to Category:Empires. The Japanese Empire was indeed an empire, but what is the reason for this article's apparently anachronistic (or outdated) classification? Jarble (talk) 00:59, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Currently third according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_motor_vehicle_production — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.50.18.130 (talk) 19:11, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Needs a link to wikivoyage in the sister projects box. 86.45.191.101 (talk) 19:11, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

The literal translation of Nippon-koku or Nihon-koku is [the] Country of Japan, not [the] State of Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.88.185 (talk) 02:12, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

There are more definitions to state than the American definition. In our case, it refers to sovereign state, which is a more proper and accurate term for the common colloquial use of the word "country". -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 02:47, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

It is mentioned that Japan is the third largest economy by purchase power parity (PPP), which is untrue since that position is now occupied by India.59.182.93.67 (talk) 16:39, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Please provide a reliable source for that claim; ideally, it would help to know what Japan's current position is. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Here are the references from the CIA page and IMF page. Similar reference can also be obtained from the World Bank.

CIA

IMF

The text "formerly 日本國", "formerly　日本國" or "formerly Nihon-koku (日本國)" in the Infobox in the lede seems to be broken; it displays as 日本国.   LittleBen (talk) 12:57, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I think you're referring to the |Kyujitai_name = 日本國. This isn't a valid tag for the Infobox Country template, and shouldn't be there. I've removed it. If this isn't what you're referring to let me know. Canterbury Tail talk 15:37, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, what Canterbury Tail wrote. |Kyujitai_name = 日本國 isn't a valid parameter for that infobox, so it just won't display anything. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:21, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

It was entered in the Infobox as 日本國, but was actually displaying as 日本国, regardless of whether it was wrapped in a {{lang}} template or not. The same kanji 國 displays correctly later in the article: <Quote>"the full title of Japan was Dai Nippon Teikoku (大日本帝國)<UnQuote>. LittleBen (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

I looked at the article yesterday and never saw any problem. The parameter Canterbury Tail removed wasn't displayed anywhere anyway. The lead said "formally", not "formerly". What lead says is written in the lead, not in the infobox. Try replacing "国" with random characters, like "AAAAAAAA", and click the preview button. You will see what part displays where. ---Moscow Connection (talk) 04:39, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

May I ask why Nihon, Nippon, Nihon-koku, and Nippon-koku are bolded in the first sentence of the article? WP:BOLDTITLE says Do not boldface foreign names not normally used in English. As far as I know, none of those four names are normally used in English. Am I missing something? -- tariqabjotu 16:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

On a related note, why is the order of the two Japanese names flipped between the short form and the formal terms? ("Nihon or Nippon" and "Nippon-koku or Nihon-koku")--Khajidha (talk) 20:30, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Japanese drives on the right not the left please fix asap .190.213.194.53 (talk) 03:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Not done: No, they don't. --ElHef (Meep?) 03:26, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) note: Right- and left-hand traffic#Japan refers. I added a link to that section from the infobox entry here.Begoon ^talk 03:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Japanese Jiroemon Kimura is the oldest man in the world and the last to be born in the 19th century. The world has come 19.april 1897th year, and over 116 years lived during the four emperors and as many as 61 governments from Masayoshi Matsukata to Shinzo Abe.78.2.65.78 (talk) 14:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure, we have an article about him at Jiroemon Kimura. But he's not important enough to be included in the article about the country. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Qwyrxian, we get these quite a lot. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 12:14, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I really think that the article should contain a list of notable sites, like eg. Mount Fuji (https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/en/Mount_Fuji). My preference would be to sort Mount Fuji or other geographic sites into the Geography section, but eg. purely historic sites elsewhere.80.135.150.208 (talk) 10:51, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Would like to change the year mentioned (from 1853 to 1854) in the third paragraph to be more accurate as the year that Commodore Matthew C. Perry actually succeeded in opening Japan to the West (with the Convention of Kanagawa in 1854). Currently, the text reads "...which was only ended in 1853 when a United States fleet pressured Japan to open to the West." Cortikal (talk) 22:52, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

"The pronunciation Nippon is more formal, and is in Japanese used for most official purposes, including international sporting events."

Nippon/にっぽん is not in any way more formal than Nihon/にほん. I have no idea how anybody could ever get this idea or write this down.

"the de facto capital city of Tokyo""Capital and largest city Tokyo"

Tokyo is not a city. It is a prefecture.

"Official languages None[1]"

While technically correct, it seems strange to not mention Standard Dialect, the official administered dialect by MEXT and NHK.

"Currency Yen (¥) / En (円 or 圓) (JPY)"

It seems strange to include 圓 here. That character hasn't been used in the past 100 years. It would be like including the alternative capitalization of "united States of America" on the USA page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 240F:6:1928:1:68D7:BDE7:4DAF:2E8C (talk) 00:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the alternate currency symbol because as you point out, it's quite outdated. I've also removed the "largest city" parameter; that one could arguably say, since Tokyo is often considered a "metropolitan prefecture", which is like a city. The problem is that if we don't include it, we have no "largest city" in Japan, and it would be very odd to call, say, Osaka the largest city.

On Nippon vs. Nihon, I haven't changed, as I don't feel confident making a decision either way. I look for the input of other editors. Qwyrxian (talk) 03:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

As for the Nippon/Nihon thing, it's not to say that one is more "formal", because they are both used in formal, official writing, however it does happen to be the case that "Nippon" appears more frequently in official circumstances; for example, it's quite common to see the romanization in places like "NIPPON GINKO". Regarding 円/圓, I wouldn't mind its removal since it isn't really used much today, but just to clarify that saying that it's been out of use for "100 years" is a bit of a stretch, since the kyujitai form 圓 would have still been in use by 1945, if not later. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 06:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

The Japanese page on Japan makes absolutely no mention of stating whether Nihon or Nippon is more official, only stating that both are used, and furthermore gives a list of official organizations that use both. "切手などに「NIPPON」と描かれ（紙幣発券者も「にっぽんぎんこう」である）、ほか日本放送協会、ニッポン放送、日本武道館、日本体育大学、日本郵便などで「NIPPON」（にっぽん）表記を用いる一方、「NIHON」（にほん）表記を用いる例は、日本大学、日本航空、日本経済新聞、JR東日本・JR西日本、日本ユニシス、日本相撲協会、日本オリンピック委員会などがある。なお、（国会に複数の議席を有したことのある）日本の政党名における読みは、以下の通り。" Quick translation: "Stamps and other post items write "nippon" (in Roman), NHK, Nippon Budokan, Japan Educational University, Japan Post, and others use "Nippon" (either in Roman or official pronunciation), and then Japan University, Japan Airlines (JAL), The Nikkei (Japan Economics Newspaper), JR East Japan, JR West Japan, Japan News, and the Japan Sumo Association, and the Japanese Olympic committee, among others, use "Nihon", as either official Romanization or official pronunciation." It then goes on to list a large number of major political parties which use Nippon then a large number that use Nihon. At the very least, we should defer to the Japanese Wikipedia page on Japan and make English Wikipedia also state, "Both pronunciations exist" and then not make any additional statements on which is more official or which is more common, unless there are some good sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.112.115.101 (talk) 06:58, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea as well. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:25, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Bujjisomasekhar (talk) 18:28, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. --Stfg (talk) 18:46, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

A lot of this reads like its from some American text book, misses out Japan's importance in world history etc, I have added some details to the lead. --JTBX (talk) 12:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

And I've reverted because some of what you added was non-neutral (like the way you described the end of WWII) and some of it (like the name etymology) isn't important enough for the lead. While editing is not locked for featured articles, a strong deference is given to consensus versions, so you'll need to discuss further here to show consensus has changed to accept your new additions. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:17, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree, for instance poverty statistics are placed under the 'export's sub-section of the economy header. 81.158.209.177 (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not an expert in the subject but I was wondering if anyone is interested in updating a small section about Crime in Japan. This past week I've been reading a few articles about the Japanese crime syndicates, but maybe there's someone who knows a lot more here. Just a suggestion. ComputerJA (☎ • ✎) 07:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

The article introduction states: "Periodic insurrections and civil disturbances continued into the 1880s." What insurrections or civil disturbances occurred in the 1880's? I beleive the Satsuma rebellion of 1877 was the last challenge to the Meiji central government. Can anyone tell me what 1880's era insurrections this refers to? --Westwind273 (talk) 07:25, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Seeing no disagreement, I changed it to "1870s". --Westwind273 (talk) 04:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Satsuma Rebellion should be mentioned, "1870s, since the Satsuma Rebellion", w/e. OccultZone (Talk) 04:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

This is a nicely written article.58.156.153.194 (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2014 (UTC)Spatial

I'm doing an essay on the Ainu people and I badly need a first hand source. There is a small text in this Google book [5] on page 19, which should be a decree that banned the Ainu from fishing. I would be really grateful if someone could assist me with a quick translation. Thanks in advance. Val-Ainu1 (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

You would probably find better luck asking at WT:JAPAN instead, you'll find plenty of people who can help you there; this talk page isn't a general request page. --benlisquare_T•C•E 10:32, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, sorry for posting here Val-Ainu1 (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

I think the following sentence in the Geography section:"The Ryukyu Islands, which includes including Okinawa, are a chain to the south of Kyushu."

Should read:"The Ryukyu Islands, which includes Okinawa, are a chain to the south of Kyushu."

cheers,RWCedits (talk) 14:29, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! I removed "including". Thank you for pointing that out. Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 15:28, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the source of the article. Tokyo is the largest city too and the capital because I knew that Tokyo is the largest populated city in the world and love that place. I visited Tokyo before since July 2013 for going to Vietnam. --Allen Nguyen ^Talk 01:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but you are wrong. Tokyo is not a city. There once was Tokyo City, but not anymore. Please take a look at the article Tokyo. Oda Mari (talk) 07:46, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I thought Tokyo is a city, and it's a largest in Japan and in the world including the Chiba Prefecture area. --Allen ^Talk 19:17, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Tokyo is a metropolitan prefecture. Shinjuku, Tokyo is a city, Shibuya, Tokyo is a city, and Chūō, Tokyo is a city, however Tokyo isn't a city in the strictest sense. --benlisquare_T•C•E 20:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Tokyo must be a city and it's a largest prefecture area in Japan. --Allen ^Talk 17:57, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The official translation of each ward, or 区, is "city"; see the lead paragraph of Special wards of Tokyo. The official website of each of these wards feature an official English translation going along the lines of "X City"; Shinjuku is a city, and 23 of them make up Tokyo. Not even the Tokyo page explicitly refers to a Tokyo City, except for the historical reference. Also, I don't understand your comment, why is it that Tokyo "must be a city"? --benlisquare_T•C•E 12:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The following sentence in the lead section should be changed: "Japan maintains a modern military with the world's eighth largest military budget, which can be used to enter wars with other countries if needed under a reinterpretation of article 9". Firstly, the latter part is too detailed for a lead section. Secondly, it is misleading because Japan could enter war with other countries for the purpose of individual self-defense even before the 2014 reinterpretation. I propose the latter part to be deleted. KreutzerSonata (talk) 01:26, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

You're right, I've restored the lede back to how it was before. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 01:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I am deeply honored to be able to see it. Cliffswallow-vaulting (talk) 05:26, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I previously had consensus that the English article should not stated that one pronunciation is more formal than the other. As the article is currently semiprotected, I request that somebody please remove the offending portion.

http:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=Talk:Japan&oldid=569190852 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.112.115.101 (talk) 03:11, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Agreed and Done. Thanks, Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 06:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

This article says that Japan has 173 airports, without any source supporting it. However, the article List of airports in Japan and Economy of Japan both says that Japan has 98 airports, with a source supporting it. Is it just me, or is this a mistake? --Horai 551 12:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Actually, Tokyo's a city not a region in Japan. And also the Chiba Prefecture was there with Tokyo along with Haneda and Narita airports in the city. --Allen ^talk 22:04, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Issue likely stems from the differences between Greater Tokyo Area, Tokyo Metropolis, and Tokyo. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 23:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

There appears to be two parts to the edits in question. First part is just moving the natural disaster info down and removing the redundant info. The second part is the use of Yamato people. So what's the reversions about? The first part seems completely legit to me. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:32, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I agree, it's a really slow-mo edit war. We're only talking about the natural disaster, that looks like a careless revert on his part. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 00:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I've removed the unnecessary membership groups from the lead, as the only reason for adding it was apparently because the USA and United Kingdom has it too. However, those articles are completely different and they also include a lot of more notable content as well. I don't think it is neccessary to copy everyhing from those articles for whatever reason. Look at South Korea's page for example. It mentions a lot of non-notable content in the lead. Should we copy all of that as well? I don't think so. Feel free to give your thoughts, I'm mostly addressing the user Knsn57. I mostly agree with Benlisquare. Supersaiyen312 (talk) 04:05, 21 November 2014 (UTC)