Talk:Richard Nixon

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Wife beater

I figure that if no one else will, I guess I will add a section on Richard beating up his wife, Pat. Here are a few sources to use to make this part of the narrative. [1] and [2], which is a book review of The Arrogance of Power: The Secret World of Richard Nixon, Penguin Books, August 1, 2001, by Anthony Summers. I like to saw logs! (talk) 09:17, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Well here's what academic historians say about the credibility of this fringe book: "Anthony Summers, who previously wrote sensationalistic books about the Kennedy assassination, Marilyn Monroe, and J. Edgar Hoover, finds Nixon guilty of more crimes than did Leon Jaworski, Peter Rodino and Woodward and Bernstein combined. His Arrogance of Power--even the title is unoriginal--is a dictionary-sized catalogue of Nixon's offenses, real and imagined. His sources are a wildly mixed lot: some as reliable as the sunrise, some as impeachable as Nixon himself. This book will probably disappoint even die-hard Nixon-haters, who will see the case for the uniqueness of Nixon's crimes muddied by Summers's kitchen-sink approach, which undermines whatever credibility his prodigious research might otherwide have lent him."--- from David Greenberg, "Review: Richard the Bleeding Hearted" Reviews in American History (March 2002) Vol. 30, No. 1 (Mar., 2002), pp. 156-167 at page 164. Published by: The Johns Hopkins University Press, online at https://www.jstor.org/stable/30031728 Rjensen (talk) 10:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
What about the subject itself?
I also mentioned two resources for the allegation. Elon Green's piece? He quotes the book, but then writes a few thousand words of his own. A rogue book makes trouble, but Green (who quotes Seymour Hersh and others) seems to cherry-pick several of the wife-beating parts of Summers' book with quotes as if they were notable. He seems to use his entire piece corroborating him. I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Also, about Summers' book ... it's been referenced here in the Talk pages about 5 times previously. I believe it used to be included in the article for a quote at some point. I would hate to miss out on relevant, encyclopedic content because Anthony Summers put every piece of dirt he could into his book on Nixon. Penguin isn't exactly known as a tabloid with what they allow authors to print.
For Green's piece, it claims fact checking.
Even if wife beating is a rumor, it has become noteworthy for this particular person through several different accounts by several different people. In the light of a biographical article, the subject should be brought up as the reports of credible sources, and I believe that it meets that criteria with the sources I mentioned, with the addition of the book by Summers itself. I like to saw logs! (talk) 06:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
This is a FA. I have grave doubts about whether the Summers book is a high-quality reliable source for the reasons stated by Rjensen. And in addition, we barely have space for all the things we know about Nixon, adding what is rumored is not called for. Wehwalt (talk) 06:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

No mention of "summa cum laude" in source as specified in "college and law school" section

After graduating summa cum laude with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from Whittier in 1934, Nixon was accepted at the new Duke University School of Law [25]

[25] (https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/president-nixon): "a student and sailor" says: "Richard Nixon enrolled at Whittier College in September 1930. He was an active student, pursuing his interests in student government, drama, and football while living at home and helping to run the family's store. Nixon won a scholarship to attend Duke University School of Law in May 1934" Simonmikk (talk) 08:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Good point. I'll look at what sources I have and either modify or add a source. Wehwalt (talk) 11:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
I've added a Whittier College source that so states. Thanks. Wehwalt (talk) 11:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Is he mentioned in this article? (I can't find it.) He served as ambassator to India, amomg other posts, and had a significant effect. Krok6kola (talk) 01:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Bronxville

Ozzy4Prezz keeps adding the incorrect information that Nixon maintained a residence in Bronxville, New York, based on Social Security death records. This shows that one of Nixon's executors lived in Bronxville. No source shows that Nixon ever lived there, and if Nixon had lived there at any time, there would have been coverage, both contemporary and in the biographies. I just searched John Farrell's well-regarded bio of Nixon and it does not contain the word "Bronxville". I propose to delete the incorrect information. Wehwalt (talk) 16:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

My argument is that
a.) Nixon’s wife is also residing in Bronxville New York. If it was a mistake that applied Nixon’s lawyer’s zipcode to Nixon than why does it apply to his wife as well?
b.) The Social Security Death Index looks into the Census records and voter records to check where someone resides. In addition, a simple research can find that the Nixon Library and Nixon associates owned the New jersey homes in Park Ridge and in Saddle River; Nixon himself did not personally own the homes and used them as secondary homes, not primary homes.
c.) The social security death index’s detailed 9-digit zipcode for Nixon’s residence is different than the 9-digit zipcode for his lawyer (Griffin)
If I find other arguments I’ll place them here Ozzy4Prezz (talk) 16:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
d.) The New Jersey death records for 1994 do not include non-New Jerseyans and do not mention Richard Nixon https://www.newjerseydeathindex.com/ Ozzy4Prezz (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
d.) The New Jersey death records for 1994 which do not include non-New Jerseyans and do not mention Richard Nixon https://www.newjerseydeathindex.com/ Ozzy4Prezz (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
That index only covers deaths in the state of New Jersey. Nixon did not die there. All this seems very WP:SYNTH. Where is the source that says Nixon lived in Bronxville? Either Nixon. Wehwalt (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Also, this mentions Nixon as living in Saddle River and Park Ridge, and does not mention Bronxsville. Wehwalt (talk) 17:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
I agree with Wehwalt. I've checked a number of Nixon bios....and I don't see him living in Bronxsville mentioned anywhere. Rja13ww33 (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)