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• An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.

• The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).

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Arbitration

• Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

I agree that the article should be blocked until a consensus is reached, but I believe that at least the current state of it should be what it was before until there is consensus. Please reverte the edition to the agreed one. SmithGraves (talk) 09:12, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

It is Barjimoa who tries to add something to the article, I do not. I think that it should provisionally return to an edition that doesnt include the Barjimoa edition without consensus. SmithGraves (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

@SmithGraves: Please place any comments about the article at Talk:Spanish Empire, which I am watching. - Donald Albury 13:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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https:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard&diff=928566499&oldid=928565183 Thanks for cleaning that up for me, I wasn't aware of that being inappropriate in a talk page. Should I go through and move my comments to the bottom, or just leave things as they are for now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MicahZoltu (talk • contribs) 11:42, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind an objective pair of eyes at Tattooed Arm (Talk:Tattooed Arm#Haitian or not) over this matter (if you have the time), and I know you also do a lot with southeastern Native American subjects. The logic of the other person is so far escaping me. I probably should have opened the talk page discussion earlier, but I thought my rational was sound at my last revert and still do (if you disagree that's fine, as I said I would like a fresh pair of eyes). Although, truth be told, I'm not sure if this person should even be in this class of category at all, since we know absolutely nothing about them after being sent to St Domingue by the French. Thanks, and hope all is well with you, Heiro 00:17, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

I do understand your logic though. I was just trying to tell people this is the river mentioned in Stephen Foster and Al Jolson, who spelled it Swanee. I do not deny, however, that the government-issued spellings and popular culture spelling are two different things.JoeScarce (talk) 00:08, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

Any mention of such alternate spellings needs to establish their notability and be verifiable from reliable sources. Generally, however, we avoid citations in the lead. A discussion of alternative spellings, when supported by citations to reliable sources, might be appropriate in the Etymology section. - Donald Albury 01:04, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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Guideline and policy news

• An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
• Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

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• Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration

• Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous

• The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.

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Dear Mr. Albury,This is the African American History Honors Class at Newberry High School in Newberry, FL. We are requesting some guidance, we want to understand how we can source something, when the sources of the day were clearly racially biased and currently irrelevant. We just recently updated the Newberry Six Lynching Page with the actual information from the historical marker here in Newberry, FL, which has gone through Florida's historical board for accuracy. Our class has been studying and talking about this event since the start of the school year, and our teacher is the Mayor of Newberry. Any help you can give us on how to penetrate the institutional racism that permeates the sources of the day, would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,The AfAH Class of Newberry HS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marlowejh (talk • contribs) 17:23, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@Marlowejh: First , I recommend that you pass on to your teacher these links to Wikipedia:FAQ/Schools and Wikipedia:School and university projects. Wikipedia has a project for coordinating with schools on projects involving Wikipedia, which will help prevent misunderstandings when you edit.

Second, please see our policy on verifiability and our guideline on reliable sources. In short, everything in an article in the English Wikipedia must be verifiable from reliable sources. See also the essay at Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth, which reinforces the point that we have to go with what reliable sources say, whether we personally like it or not. Also see the second pillar, Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view, in Wikipedia:Five pillars. We do not try to shade what is in the sources. - Donald Albury 18:01, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

I was in two minds about whether to create a separate article on her. I could still do that - do you have a strong view either way? Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:52, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@Ghmyrtle: I was just looking at what reliable sources are available about her on the Internet. To justify an article about her, you would have to demonstrate she meets at least one of the criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles. Articles about musicians tend to be scrutinized closely, and I am not sure du Berry has enough notability on her own, as opposed to being a member of Paris Combo or in partnership with David Lewis, to survive being taken to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines for help on creating an article about a musiscian. If you wish to discuss this further, please do so at Talk:Paris Combo. I have that page on my watchlist, and will see anything posted there. - Donald Albury 14:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

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Good man, there was a reason for changing Surgeon's knot video. The English version is wrong! This knot is shown incorrectly at the base with just a simple overhand knot. The first knot must be started with a Double overhand knot.If you want it to be an English-language video, you have to pay attention to it. Thank you. --StromBer (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

@StromBer: I am moving this discussion to Talk:Surgeon's knot. - Donald Albury 17:09, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
• A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
• Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.

Arbitration

• The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
• Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Bradv, Casliber, David Fuchs, DGG, KrakatoaKatie, Maxim, Newyorkbrad, SoWhy, Worm That Turned, Xeno.

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I can't fınd any ıpa letters, ıf you can give me the whole set of ıpa letters, I will put the correct pronouncıatıon of "Nahuatl" that you reversed absent-mındedly. GlottalStop777 (talk) 23:31, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

@GlottalStop777: What are you talking about? I haven't edited Nahuatl since last May. - Donald Albury 03:08, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

YOU reverted MY correct edit

GlottalStop777 (talk) 14:32, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Me last month; I see an error in this article. Let me fix it! You; *removes correction* GlottalStop777 (talk) 14:34, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

@GlottalStop777: Again, what are you talking about? I do not see any article that we have both edited, ever, until you started posting on my talk page. Were you editing as an IP (not logged in) or under another user name? Please provide a link to the page these edits occurred on. - Donald Albury 15:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

No, I edited it on THIS account

GlottalStop777 (talk) 15:48, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

If you can't even be nice, you shouldn't be a mod.

GlottalStop777 (talk) 15:50, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Hiya, hope you don't mind but I was wondering what the edit was that you were mistaken for/over... I'm feeling a bit icky & needed to focus on something that didn't need too much brainpower :) Anyway, whilst I still have no idea why your name came up as a possible "culprit", the furore seems to have arisen over this edit, which was changed well over a week later: https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/?lang=en&title=Duolingo&oldid=932842332. Doesn't make much sense though since it was someone completely different, over a week later, on a totally different article... I'll admit I'm a little out of it on painkillers, but even then it still doesn't make sense!

Anyway, not sure if this is useful or interesting at all for you, but thought I may as well pop a note here, so my feeble effort isn't wasted! Happy Belated New Year 😁 Blue-Sonnet (talk) 19:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

@Blue-Sonnet: I think the complaint may have been about this edit, where I removed what looked like nonsense. Other than that possibility, I have no clue what started it. - Donald Albury 20:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

I reckon aliens did it. Or the Illuminati. Or maybe fairies - they can be mean little suckers when they put their minds to it. Either way, at least you have an entertaining new story to tell 😁 Blue-Sonnet (talk) 15:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid I automatically use the date format of the article, so I used US dates there. Doug Weller talk 14:44, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

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Added summary. Thanks for the reminder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan T. Baumler (talk • contribs) 16:30, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Fixed the Reimers cite and added some more information — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan T. Baumler (talk • contribs) 11:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for you help. I think I (and you) finally have it right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan T. Baumler (talk • contribs) 14:49, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi there Donald. I am disappointed in your revert of my edit ("per MOS:OVERLINK") of Stephen Dando-Collins for the following reasons:

• the 15 wikilinks I added are not trivial but inform the WP reader of the subject of the books written by S D-C, particularly the non-fiction books ie not trivial "Everyday words" etc links but the people, events etc that are related by the books, surely useful to those reading about Dando-Collins

• the time you took to reject my work (15 mins after I added it) is probably considerably less than the time I spent in preparing my edit-Twinkle may be convenient but semi automated edits can be a bane in producing a quality article. Did you actually read (in good faith) what I had added?

We are both around WP for over 10 years so I hope we can come to an amicable solution. Regards. DadaNeem (talk) 05:59, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

@DadaNeem: We will have to disagree on this. I do not see how all those links in a list of books improved Wikipedia. I seriously doubt anyone will be following all of those links, and they clutter up the page. That said, I try to not fight over such things. - Donald Albury 11:54, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).

Guideline and policy news

• Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
• The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.

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• Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
• When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]

Arbitration

• Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2020 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2020, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2020, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).

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• Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
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• Following the 2020 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: BRPever, Krd, Martin Urbanec, MusikAnimal, Sakretsu, Sotiale, and Tks4Fish. There are a total of seven editors that have been appointed as stewards, the most since 2014.
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hallo i am rick castro- i have made the changes on my page as best i can.. i'm not that tech- savvy so do what i can- all the info and references i've entered are correct- all the people i mentioned are people i know- have worked with or interacted with- i have posted noting false whatsoever- please restore my additions- thank you- rick castro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eigilvesti (talk • contribs) 00:06, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

@Eigilvesti: Please read our policy at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, and all of the policies and guidelines that are linked from that page. Wikipedia has very strict requirements for articles about living persons. Do not add any information to Rick Castro's article that is not supported by reliable sources. I would advise you to not add any information that might be considered controversial, derogatory, or laudatory, without first proposing the changes on the article's talk page. - Donald Albury 11:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).

Guideline and policy news

• There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.

Technical news

• There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.

Arbitration

• Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.

Miscellaneous

• The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.

On a recent edit to Winter Haven, Florida, you reverted an IP and issued a warning that their edit did not conform to Wikipedia policies. They merely added the word "confederate" to a person who was listed with a title of "Col.", which referred to their service in the confederate army. What policy could this have violated? If Henry Haines is a colonel, he is also a confederate. The IP's edit is absolutely factual and sourced. Perhaps it is "unnecessary", perhaps not, (I think it is necessary) but is this any way to treat a good faith editor? Thanks, Jacona (talk) 11:17, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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