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Brachiosaurus

I found this article which discusses aquatic locomotion and mating in saurpods including Brachiosaurus. Perhaps a little more could be added to the article. LittleJerry (talk) 22:12, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Sure, wonder if MWAK and Jens Lallensack have any comments on it. And there's still a bunch of info we need to add from that redescription paper[1]... FunkMonk (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
I get the impression that Brachiosaurus in this article simply equals Giraffatitan. Also, this is really a general giant sauropod issue of a highly speculative nature. An "aquatic mounting" hypothesis smacks of various forms of "aquatic dinosaur" pseudoscience, like that of Brian J. Ford. In this matter there really isn't some vast riddle to be solved. Most eukaryotes join gametes without mounting or even touching. For sauropods there are many obvious non-aquatic solutions such as being supported by a hillock, the female crouching, the female rolling on her side or back, long penises or tail-to-tail mating.
Yes, we must process the other paper :o).--MWAK (talk) 09:13, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

October 2019—Issue 007


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Meinhard Michael Moser‎ by J Milburn
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King brown snake by Casliber
Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77
Megarachne by Ichthyovenator
List of canids by PresN
Devils Hole pupfish by Enwebb
Dryomyza anilis by AnuBalasubramanian
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Mammoth

Hypocrite. You always reject the obvious consensus from the other editors and demand that your POV remains untouched. You have been deleting info from the cloning section since it was created, "summarizing"it you claim, but when a summary is done and reditected to the parent article you flip-flop like a fish and post the long version again, forgetting all about having your panties in a bunch about the need to summarize it. Please stop your infantile trolling. Thank you. Rowan Forest (talk) 02:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

I created the cloning section to begin with, so don't give me that BS. As I said, I wrote 90% of that article, and I know what it took to get it to FAC, so I won't just stand back and see it degraded with garbage pop science sources and bad writing. FunkMonk (talk) 20:57, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Nice! FunkMonk (talk) 15:44, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
October
... with thanks from QAI
But today, thank you for Rodrigues Solitaire! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Oh yeah, my first ever FAC, nice to finally see it up! FunkMonk (talk) 09:14, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
I remember the feeling! Today, I am proud of a great woman on the Main page, Márta Kurtág, finally! - Here's my ideal candidate for arbcom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Today, thank you for Spinophorosaurus, "a long-necked dinosaur which is notable for bearing spikes on its tail, and in being one of the most completely known members of its group from its time and place. We have summarised all available sources, including a German book about the expeditions that found the fossils, and the article therefore has a detailed and rather dramatic account of the discovery"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
And you're welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 12:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Need your help

My partner on the wolf project withdraw. I would like another opinion on the new comments the PR. See the links below.

I left a comment in the section there. I don't think there is anything to worry about, it is common to disagree with reviewer comments, and that's only a peer review anyway. FunkMonk (talk) 15:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Rodrigues parrot scheduled for TFA

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Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 08:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

It’s that time of year!

Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic)

Atsme Talk 📧 18:04, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Time To Spread A Little
HappyHolidayCheer!!
I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree
in the spirit of the season.

What's especially nice about
this digitized version:
*it doesn't need water
*won't catch fire
*and batteries aren't required.
Have a very Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah‼️

and a prosperous New Year!!

🍸🎁 🎉
Velociraptor meets Santa Claus
Thanks, and here is a dinosaur themed Christmas card in return! FunkMonk (talk) 20:41, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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S Curve

Hi FunkMonk, I reverted your edit to S Curve, not because there was anything wrong with your edit, but because of the edits before and after yours. I have replaced Sigmoid curve. Leschnei (talk) 17:06, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't even notice. FunkMonk (talk) 20:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Segnosaurus

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The countdown

FM, thank you for the work you do, and for all you’ve done over the years in an effort to build a quality encyclopedia! It has been a pleasure collaborating with you to get the articles right for promotion to WP:GA status!

2020!!
  • Out with the old, in with the new!! I'll remember 2019 like it was yesterday!
  • Remember, a New Year's resolution is something that goes in one year and out the other.
  • Definition of a hangover: Wrath of Grapes.
  • What kind of doctor fixes broken websites?
A URLologist.

🎉🥂🍾🎊 Atsme Talk 📧 13:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, hope to see you on the other side! FunkMonk (talk) 15:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Segnosaurus

Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 09:17, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
No problem. :) Cheers, Baffle☿gab 03:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Today, thank you for Rodrigues parrot, "the last article about an extinct species of parrot from the Mascarene islands yet to be nominated here, so I thought it was time to put it up. Very little is known about the bird, but most of what has ever been written about it is summarised here. The article also covers two supposedly congeneric, but dubious, species."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 08:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
I have a peer review open, Clara Schumann, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
I'll see if I have anything to add... FunkMonk (talk) 09:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. This is a hard one - for me - because I didn't write it, found it like this just before her bicentenary, which it entered like this. Kma67 helped with copy-edits, Chuckstreet with the referencing, later that month it entered GAN [https:https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/index.php?lang=en&q=Clara_Schumann&oldid=919441734 like this, and was approved as a GA by Reaper Eternal on 15 October, - then - of course - with all paragraphs ending on a citation. I think she deserves a FA but am not sure how. - We now have an article by many aothors, with referencing unified by Chuckstreet who is no longer available. I am unsure about things such as the sections about people (her husband, Brahms ...) vs. a more chronological telling of her life. Thoughts? I don't know how much about her thoughts about other composers - which didn't change music history, afaik - we should represent. Such questions. As for duplicate links, in any rendering of Life and Work, we should allow a link in both areas because readers might look at only one. There's also this remark ;) - ... and to decide what else should go to the lead ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Hmmm, when I've taken over articles that already had much text, such as passenger pigeon, I would read a book on the subject, and double check all the info with it to verify and consolidate. During this process I would add additional info or remove info, depending on what I saw in the book. Could maybe be a solution here. On links, yeah, if they are not too close to each other, duplication is ok in a long article. But it should be checked that links to the same things aren't in successive paragraphs, etc. FunkMonk (talk) 10:21, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Mail

I just sent you an email. Atsme Talk 📧 20:06, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

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Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 19:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Perspective

Simple banners (should be red w/white text)
Wondering how to best achieve visual perspective?

Hi, FM - do you remember the Burma-Shave signs along the highway? I attempted to maintain (z axis) perspective and still keep the signage readable but as you can see in the 2 images, the perspective of distance between objects is sacrificed. This is one of the areas where I struggle, and if a mathematical computation is required in a pre-drawn frame, well...nope - not happening. Any tips you can provide will be greatly appreciated. FYI - the discussion that inspired the signage begins here. Atsme Talk 📧 12:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Interesting but tricky project, Atsme! I guess the question is whether the relative size between the signs looks correct compared to the spacing? I think that looks fine, but one thing to note is that the lower sign design you use shows all four side surfaces in perspective (like on a keyboard button), though two or more of them would not be visible if we assume this is a normal "plank" of a sign (of course depending on view angle and thickness of the sign). For example, here you see the sign head on, so you don't see any edges (disregard the white wear that looks a bit like edges)[2], while here you see them from slightly above and the side, which reveals the upper surfaces and a bit of the left surfaces here:[3] FunkMonk (talk) 19:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, FM - the 2 images you linked are very helpful. Atsme Talk 📧 19:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Bold, revert, discuss reversion of your proposed merge of Ostrich egg to Ostrich

@FunkMonk:

Per Bold, Revert, Discuss, I have reverted your good-faith, but malformed, merger proposal of Ostrich egg to Ostrich for two reasons:

  1. It was malformed, without the required talkpage discussion anywhere; and,
  2. At this RfD discussion, consensus was, specifically, to retarget away from Ostrich. While consensus can change, it was felt that Egg as food#History was more appropriate. Note this retargeting was without prejudice to creating an article for Ostrich egg, which Smec did, and which I thought was reasonable and not an unnecessary content fork.

Feel free to re-propose the merger, with a talkpage discussion if you wish, but do note that Ostrich may not be the best target.

Also, and by no means am I suggesting this is the case, but I have noticed page patrollers and pending changes editors being too quick to revert new targets for redirects, or redirects converted to articles. Just a suggestion, but personally, what I would prefer to do is to initiate a discussion with the user before doing the reversion. It's so much more in good-faith.

Anyway, happy editing! :-)

Cheers,
--Doug Mehus T·C 20:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Started talk page section. FunkMonk (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
FunkMonk, Please do not just undo my reversion per WP:BRD. You still need to re-add the talk page section to the wikilink in the merger template. So, instead of using 'undo', copy and paste the merger tag, with the correct section link in the discussion area. Doug Mehus T·C 20:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
FunkMonk, Per WP:NOTBURO, I have re-added the merge tag for you, with the correct discussion page link. Doug Mehus T·C 20:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Please keep this discussion to the relevant talk page so other editors can see it. FunkMonk (talk) 20:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
FunkMonk,  Done. Doug Mehus T·C 20:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Left-aligned images and infoboxes

Left aligned images that are high up in the article make the text squeezed in a small space in the center. To me this sandwiched text looks awkward and doesn't serve readability. (I actually rarely think a left aligned image works well at the beginning of a section, but the sandwiched text is a standalone issue.) I don't think removing left alignment in these situations is an overzealous interpretation of the MOS. MOS:SANDWICH says "avoid sandwiching text between...an image and infobox". But I'm happy to hear more about your further thoughts on this if I'm not interpreting your edit summary correctly. —Hyperik talk 16:51, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

In any case, the issue should now be solved. FunkMonk (talk) 17:33, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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TFA

Thank you today for Kosmoceratops, "about a dinosaur which is said to have had the most ornamented skull of them all, therefore the cool name. Writing this article has also been motivated by a certain US president slashing the national monument which is the only place this dinosaur has been found in half, and hopefully getting this article to the front page one day could spread some awareness."! - hopefully today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, yeah, dinosaurs are always attention grabbers, so let's hope... FunkMonk (talk) 11:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
I have a "bird" on the same page, DYK? Great memories of actually having seen that, while the Voice of the Forest Bird is normally only heard, not seen. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I was confused of what era, as I saw no birth date. Perhaps not findable? FunkMonk (talk) 12:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
I found nothing, and remember a soprano whose date was there but she wanted it removed saying that people potenionally casting her might not, because of age. I removed it, but it's still on wikidata, of course ;) - She looked great when I took her pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Interesting, well, down the line it will probably be hard to keep the dates out if others start mingling with the pages... FunkMonk (talk) 13:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Notification about a FAC renomination

Greetings,

since you did comment on this later withdrawn FAC I wanted to notify you that I've renominated it at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coropuna/archive2. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:15, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

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Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Segnosaurus scheduled for TFA

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Two "birds" with one stone! Though they're already dead... FunkMonk (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Disambig pages

Okay, time to ask someone who (probably) knows. I'm gathering sources to create disambiguation pages for plant genera and species. Anything you can tell me about this process, for either animal or plant species, would be really helpful. For instance, for T. rex (disambiguation), did someone Google "T. rex"? Is there a working assumption that people will sometimes shorten binomial names to just the species name, so that a disambiguation page is assumed to be needed if there are two unrelated organisms with the same species name? - Dank (push to talk) 04:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Wolf

Please rely to the Wolf FAC. I really need another opinion. LittleJerry (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Dinosaurs

Hi, FM! Hope all is well on your end. Not sure how closely you keep up with dinosaur news, but I thought maybe this info might interest you. Atsme Talk 📧 14:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks, all is fine here, as I can work from home during these strange days. And that also gave me some time to watch some of your documentaries, it was really nice to see how the genuine enthusiasm just oozes out of them! And yeah, I follow dinosaur news quite closely, but still nice to see those discoveries on parade. I hope you're well too, and if we're told to stay home much longer, maybe it'll at least give us more time to research and write (currently working on the Lythronax article with a couple of other dino-project guys)... FunkMonk (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
There's currently a discussion at Jimbo's page about working from home. Atsme Talk 📧 15:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Ooh, fingers crossed! I have my doubts whether Jimbo even looks at his talk page, though... It's kind of like writing letters to Santa Claus. FunkMonk (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Invitation

We'd love to have your participation over at WikiProject Extinct Hawaiian Land Snails. Happy April Fools! Sdkb (talk) 07:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for my daftness, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 07:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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TFA

Thank you today for Rodrigues starling, about an "extinct bird with an interesting history"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome as always! FunkMonk (talk) 07:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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TFA

Thank you today for Segnosaurus, "a therizinosaur, one of the strangest dinosaur groups (and one of my favourites); they would have looked like huge, pot-bellied birds, with long claws on their forelimbs. This article is about one of the first known members of the group, and therefore also covers the long standing mystery about them, and how palaeontologists slowly realised what they were." - Loving-kindnesses for Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome, and happy Easter! FunkMonk (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

November 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter

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January 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter

January 2020—Issue 010


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Newly recognized content

Megarachne by Ichthyovenator
Christmas imperial pigeon by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by FunkMonk
Paranthropus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by IJReid
Orcinus meyeri by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Enwebb
Christmas darter by Enwebb and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
Saxifragales by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by starsandwhales
Segnosaurus by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Dryopithecus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Drosophila subobscura by Andrewoh29, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Egyptian fruit bat by Enwebb, reviewed by FunkMonk
Scale insect by Chiswick Chap and Cwhmiraeth, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77

Newly nominated content

Wolf by LittleJerry
Segnosaurus by FunkMonk
The Goldfinch (painting) by Jimfbleak
Dryomyza anilis by AnuBalasubramanian
Pigs in culture by Chiswick Chap
Coronariae by Michael Goodyear
Neanderthal by Dunkleosteus77
Gharial by BhagyaMani
Honeynut squash by
James John Joicey by RLO1729
Gigantorhynchus by Mattximus
Ardipithecus ramidus by Dunkleosteus77

Plants, fungi, and other organisms (510 designated out of projected 1,200)

Many articles have yet to be designated for Tree of Life taxonomic groups, with 1,942 outstanding articles to be added. Anyone can add vital articles to the list! Restructuring may be necessary, as the only viruses included as of yet are under the category "Health". The majority of vital articles needing improvement are level 5, but here are some outstanding articles from the other levels:

Level 2

· Life · Human · Plant

Level 3

· Abiogenesis · Death · Cell · Human evolution · Organism · Zoology · Cattle · Dog · Reptile · Flower · Nut · Seed · Algae · Eukaryote · Biodiversity · Extinction · Photosynthesis

Level 4

· Sexual dimorphism · Feather · Fur · Hair · Gill · Plant anatomy · Plant morphology · Berry · Leaf · Root · Stoma · Shrub · Plant stem · Bark · Trunk · Epidermis · Ground tissue · Meristem · Vascular tissue · Vascular cambium · Hypha · Mycelium

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February 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter

February 2020—Issue 011


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Newly recognized content

Segnosaurus by FunkMonk
The Goldfinch (painting) by Jimfbleak
Gharial by BhagyaMani, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Steller's sea ape by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Hog Farm
Poinsettia by Enwebb, reviewed by Starsandwhales
Honeynut squash by , reviewed by Ealdgyth

Newly nominated content

Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77
Denisovan by Dunkleosteus77
Homo luzonensis by Dunkleosteus77
Homo naledi by Dunkleosteus77
Horseshoe bat by Enwebb
Cimicidae by Cwmhiraeth and Chiswick Chap

Viewership of the articles Bat, Bat-borne virus, Horseshoe bat, and Bat as food from 15 Jan. 2020 to 10 Feb. 2020

From October 2019 – December 2019, the top ten most popular bat articles fluctuated among 16 different articles, with the December viewership of those 10 articles at 209,280. For January 2020, three articles broke into the top-10 that were not among the 16 articles of the prior three months: Bat as food, Horseshoe bat, and Bat-borne virus. Viewership of the top-10 bat articles spiked nearly 300% to 617,067 in January.

While bats have been implicated as a possible natural reservoir of SARS-CoV-2, an intermediate host may be the bridge between bats and humans. Pangolins have been hypothesized as the intermediate host for the virus, causing a large spike in typical page views of 2-3k each day up to more than 60k in a day. Masked palm civets, the intermediate host of SARS, saw a modest yet noticeable spike in page views as well, from 100 to 300 views per day to as many as 5k views per day.

With an increase in viewers came an increase in editors. In an interview, longtime virus editor Awkwafaba identified the influx of editors as the biggest challenge in editing content related to the coronavirus. They noted that these newcomers include "novices who make honest mistakes and get tossed about a bit in the mad activity" as well as "experienced editors who know nothing about viruses and are good researchers, yet aren't familiar with the policies of WP:ToL or WP:Viruses." Disruption also increased, with extended confirmed protection (also known as the 30/500 rule, which prevents editors with fewer than 30 days tenure and 500 edits from making edits and is typically used on a very small subset of Wikipedia articles) temporarily applied to Coronavirus and still active on Template:2019–20 coronavirus outbreak data. New editors apparently seeking to correct misinformation continuously edited the article Bat as food to remove content related to China: Videos of Chinese people eating bat soup were misrepresented to be current or filmed in China, when at least one such video was several years old and filmed in Palau. However, reliable sources confirm that bats are eaten in China, especially Southern China, so these well-meaning edits were mostly removed.

Another level of complexity was added by the fluctuating terminology of the virus. Over a dozen moves and merges were requested within WikiProject Viruses. To give you an idea of the musical chairs happening with article titles, here are the move histories of two articles:

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2

2019–20 coronavirus outbreak

Awkwafaba noted that "the main authorities, WHO and ICTV, don't really have a process for speedily naming a virus or disease." Additionally, they have different criteria for naming. They said, "I remember in a move discussion from the article then called Wuhan coronavirus that a virus name cannot have a geographical location in it, but this is a WHO disease naming guideline, and not an ICTV virus naming rule. ICTV may have renamed Four Corners virus to Sin Nombre orthohantavirus but there are still plenty of official virus species names that don't abide by WHO guidelines."

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March 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter

March 2020—Issue 012


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

Argentinosaurus by Slate Weasel and Jens Lallensack
Wolf by LittleJerry
Horseshoe bat by Enwebb, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Cimicidae by Cwmhiraeth and Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Enwebb
Coronariae by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Dank
Ardipithecus ramidus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by starsandwhales
Ooedigera by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Hog Farm
Bathyphysa conifera by Awkwafaba, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Calliphora vomitoria by Y.shiuan, reviewed by Jens Lallensack

Newly nominated content

Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations by Britishfinance
Bathyphysa conifera by Awkwafaba
Moniliformidae by Mattximus
Disease X by Britishfinance
Mandarin Patinkin by Rhododendrites




  1. Please describe how you went about creating WikiProject COVID-19. What made you think a project was needed?
    I've been following the outbreak and editing related Wikipedia articles since January. I'm not particularly interested in infectious diseases or viruses, but I've been to China a few times and wanted to monitor the outbreak's impact on society as well as the government's response. For a while, I was casually tracking updates to the first couple pages about the outbreak. Then a pattern began to emerge as February saw the creation of separate articles about outbreaks in Iran, Italy, and South Korea. New Wikipedia articles continued being created in early March, and the outbreak was recognized as a pandemic by the World Health Organization on March 11. Knowing there would many more articles, lists, templates, illustrations, and other pages on Wikipedia, I created WikiProject COVID-19 on March 15. My goal was simply to create a temporary or permanent space for editors to collaborate, communicate, and focus specifically on content related to this ongoing pandemic. I'm a member of many WikiProjects and have created several before, but this one definitely felt more necessary and urgent. Most WikiProjects unite editors with similar interests, which is fine and serves a purpose, but I felt this project could have a much bigger real life impact. I don't think I was alone in my thinking; the project had 80 members by March 20 and 100 members by March 26.
  2. Who or what was invaluable to getting off the ground?
    If I'm being honest, getting this project off the ground required little work on my part. All I did was create the space and post invitations to existing talk pages related to the outbreak. Editors joined the project very quickly; 30 members joined on the same day I started the project, and there were more than 50 participants one day later. I've been a daily Wikipedia editor for more than 12 years, and I've never seen so much interest in a project or content added to Wikipedia about a specific topic in such a short period of time. WikiProject members worked expeditiously to build a framework and hang a barnstar, tagging related pages, assessing content, and starting talk page discussions about the project's goals and scope. I'm thankful to the many editors who pitched in to get the project established, and I look forward to seeing how editors collaborate in this space as we move forward.
  3. What are the short-term goals of the project?
    No specific goals have been posted to the project page yet, but I'd like to think members share a collective desire to ensure Wikipedia has accurate and reliable information about the disease and pandemic. Disinformation and misinformation seem rampant these days, so we're working to give readers around the globe access to accurate, objective, and possibly even life-saving information. Unlike some WikiProjects which may take a more historical approach to documenting certain topics, WikiProject COVID-19 members have the ability to mitigate the disease's spread in real time by arming communities with facts about outbreaks in their region as well as information about prevention, testing, vaccine research, societal impact, etc.
    Viewership of WikiProject Medicine, WikiProject Viruses, and WikiProject COVID-19 in the month of March 2020
  4. What are the long-term goals? English Wikipedia has many of 'lumpers' who think there are too many projects already. The project has also inspired the creation of two portals, which I imagine caused some raised eyebrows in this trend of portal deletionism. What will come of the WP after the current outbreak subsides?
    After creating WikiProject COVID-19, a couple editors said I should have created a task force instead of a standalone WikiProject. I wasn't bothered. The number of 'thank you' notifications I received for creating the page vastly outweighed these critical comments. I knew the page I created was much needed, and I would be fine if editors decide to call the page by another name. I understand some editors think there are too many WikiProjects. No one's required to join WikiProject COVID-19, but the 100+ of us who have already joined invite you to help with our efforts, if you're interested. As for the project's future, I would be fine if editors decided to convert the WikiProject into a task force, or even put the project into retirement if the time comes. Given the level of interest and impact the pandemic has already had on a global scale, I have a feeling the WikiProject will be active for a long time.
  5. Another criticism of the project is its narrow focus. It is focused on only one strain of virus, and the disease it causes. Even WikiProject AIDS is about two species of virus. Is the scope of the project too small? What would an expanded scope look like? Why would including another virus strain in the same species, Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus which causes SARS, not be wanted? or is it wanted?
    Narrow focus? I disagree. The project may focus on a single virus and disease, but the pandemic has resulted in the creation of hundreds of Wikipedia articles documenting outbreaks in most countries and territories. There are pages covering the pandemic's impact on aviation, cinema, education, politics, religion, sports, and television, not to mention others related to the resulting economic turmoil. Additionally, there are hundreds of templates, charts, and other graphics. Who knows how many thousands of images and other media will be uploaded at Wikimedia Commons by the time this pandemic subsides? There's also COVID-19 WikiProject COVID-19 at Wikidata, and I wouldn't be surprised if similar spaces are created for other Wikimedia projects soon. Even if the focus is narrow, there's plenty of content for Wikimedians to improve and protect.
  6. In your opinion, what should be the guidelines for creating a new project, as opposed to creating a task force or working under an existing WikiProject?
    I don't feel strongly about new project creation guidelines, or the differences between WikiProjects and task forces. Project members should decide what structure works for them and call themselves whatever name they prefer. I understand project construction requires maintenance and can come at an administrative cost, but we should be careful about discouraging editors from proposing new projects.
    Ideally, editors would only create a new WikiProject if at least a few others were committed to joining. I created WikiProject COVID-19 without conferring with others because I assumed the interest would be there. I encourage people to be bold and create project pages, but maybe ask a few other editors for feedback first. I'll let other editors worry about the guidelines.
  7. What tools (templates, bots, etc.) are essential, or even just really helpful, for organizing and maintaining a successful project? What is something every WP should do, that maybe isn't doing now?
    I appreciate the standard WikiProject assessment framework. AlexNewArtBot and Article alerts have also been very helpful.
  8. What have you learned about Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 or COVID-19 during this process that surprised you?
    I don't have any sort of medical background, and I'm more interested in the pandemic's impact than details about the disease or virus. Most surprising to me has been the lack of preparedness for combating outbreaks by governments around the world, including here in the United States. I don't know how COVID-19's spread compares to other infectious diseases, but as I've watched the outbreak develop I've continually wondered why governments did not start preparing earlier. What was happening in China, Iran, Italy, and South Korea should have prompted action sooner.
  9. What important things about 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic do you think folks should know and maybe have missed in the deluge of information coming at people?
    1. Know the most common symptoms: cough, fever, and difficulty breathing.
    2. Learn what behavioral adjustments you should make to protect yourself and reduce transmission, and remember to wash your hands.
    3. Get your information from reputable sources. I'd like to think Wikipedia editors are pretty good at this last bit of advice.

Thank you to Another Believer for your time, both in this interview and in this project. Interested readers can join WikiProject COVID-19. And please stay safe and healthy out there. --Awkwafaba

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Limusaurus

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Limusaurus has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

This sentence in the "Skull" section: "The skull was tall and short, roughly half the length of the femur (upper thigh bone)." is confusing. The skull can't be both "tall" and "short". I assume another descriptor was intended.

Best of luck with the FAC.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I think "deep" might be better than tall then? FunkMonk (talk) 19:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my edits

Hey, I'm just leaving this message to thank you for correcting me in several of my edits, including the one from Istiodactylus, when I put unnecessary parenthesis on the authors, I actually learnt something there! Also, some other edits of mine that you reverted were probably non-sense, like that one from Argentinosaurus, where I said the image appeared a bit large, that's possibly because I was using my phone to edit instead of my computer, although that doesn't really matter.Anyways, thanks again! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

No problem, that's how I learned stuff here myself! And thanks for adding bullet points to species, it seems that before they weren't needed to create a new space, but maybe something has changed since... I wonder what the purpose of your edit to the Thalassodromeus cladograms was (it creates less white space to show them side by side)? As for Argentinosaurus, also keep in mind that it is preferred that the subject of an image "face" towards the text instead of away from it. FunkMonk (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for telling me about why you changed those edits! I actually got a bit confused why the two cladograms where too close to each other, that's why I changed it, but now I know why I shouldn't. I sure learn a lot here in Wikipedia! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:37, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps they looked closer on the phone? But feel free to ask about anything if you have questions. FunkMonk (talk) 15:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I think that's probably it, and thanks again for correcting me! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Cheetah

It's been a while talking to you :) I come to you with a doubt. Not sure if you've seen my work at Cheetah, but it's something I've been working on since a few years now and in a month or so I plan to take this to FAC. First I will go for a copyedit (it is listed at Requests) and a PR alongside just to see what people think. But recently there has been some discussion [4] about the length of the article as it was yesterday [5], and it has left me confused. This worries me because I have plans for the article and this is my first article on a really broad topic. I found excellent details for every section but I tried my best to add only what I felt was relevant and not covered in other articles. Anyway I had planned to trim it a bit but not to the extent it has been if you look at the article now. I wonder if I made any mistake and though I've tried to talk about this on the discussion page, I thought of asking you too (not there, too much there already) as you have been an awesome friend to me all these years, I could do with some good feedback here, and I think you have handled huge or near-huge articles at FAC before unlike me. Thanks and stay safe :) Sainsf (knock knock · am I there?) 17:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, always nice to see what you're up to! Personally I don't think the size is a issue, Maya civilization, which I reviewed, sailed through FAC and it's much larger. I think the longest article I've nominated was Passenger pigeon, and it got no complaints either. I think you could start a PR and just get some wider views there, maybe a consensus will emerge. FunkMonk (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes I recall, the Pigeon article is way longer in words than Cheetah ever was. Right, I'll open a PR soon and talk about this.. please weigh in if you're free :) Sainsf (knock knock · am I there?) 22:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, when the time comes, I'll PR it with FAC in mind, then I can support it immediately at FAC afterwards when those issues are solved. FunkMonk (talk) 07:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, and just to let you know the PR is open now. Sainsf (knock knock · am I there?) 07:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Cool, I have a couple of FACs to get through, then I'll take a look. FunkMonk (talk) 08:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I raised size as a problem in regards to articles on specific species. Maya is an ancient civilization so that's different. Passenger pigeon is around 140,000 K which isn't too large. LittleJerry (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

What counts is the size of the text, though, not including citations, images, etc. There is some tool to calculate this size separately. FunkMonk (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
The Page size tool. It shows 9.3K words now I think. Sainsf (knock knock · am I there?) 20:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes it is 9.3K words and 56KB readable text compared to 11K words and 67 KB just before the tag as placed. Hopefully it addresses your concerns. Cheers, Sainsf (knock knock · am I there?) 20:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Catopsbaatar scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Catopsbaatar has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 3 May 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 3, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)(I think I managed to hold you down to one TFA article this month, at least?) --Ealdgyth (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for "the first article about a multituberculate mammal to be nominated here (if we don't count Ucucha's Ferugliotherium, which may or may not belong to the group). These extinct mammals lived alongside the dinosaurs and survived them, and the article covers one of the more completely known members of the group."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Welcome as always! FunkMonk (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

April 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter

April 2020—Issue 013


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

Danuvius guggenmosi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by J Milburn
Neanderthal by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Homo luzonensis by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Lythronax by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Ichthyovenator by PaleoGeekSquared, reviewed by FunkMonk
Secretarybird by LittleJerry, Aa77zz and Casliber, reviewed by The Rambling Man
James John Joicey by RLO1729, reviewed by The Rambling Man
Homo naledi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
Vermilion flycatcher by CaptainEek, reviewed by HickoryOughtShirt?4
Canada lynx by Sainsf, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Alice Gray by Rhododendrites, reviewed by The Rambling Man
Caryodendron orinocense by CPC273, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Jaguarundi by Sainsf, reviewed by Usernameunique
Gigantopithecus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Starsandwhales
Denisovan by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Starsandwhales
Disease X by Britishfinance, reviewed by DannyS712

Newly nominated content

Lythronax by FunkMonk, Lythronaxargestes and IJReid
Ichthyovenator by PaleoGeekSquared
Neanderthal by Dunkleosteus77
Alpine newt by Tylototriton
Secretarybird by LittleJerry, Aa77zz and Casliber
List of ursids by PresN
Borchgrevinkium by Super Dromaeosaurus
Caryodendron orinocense by CPC273
Siamosaurus by PaleoGeekSquared
Canada lynx by Sainsf
Vietnam mouse-deer by Sainsf
Jaguarundi by Sainsf
Vermilion flycatcher by CaptainEek
Alice Gray by Rhododendrites
Gigantopithecus by Dunkleosteus77
Paleobiota of the Posidonia Shale by Yewtharaptor
Meerkat by Sainsf

Good Article Category as ofFeb 23,
2008
Sep 16,
2008
Sep 16,
2010
Dec 1,
2011
Jan 1,
2015
Jan 1,
2020
Pct chg
Feb 2008
to 2011
Pct chg
Feb 2008
to 2020
Agriculture, food and drink27343755113226104%737%
Art and architecture1341883214506831022236%663%
Engineering and technology256396882119818282407368%840%
Geography and places1912484245237161052174%451%
History26131265182512191894216%626%
Language and literature173215377462686982167%468%
Mathematics19222730366758%253%
Media and drama4036581352130030703961223%883%
Music357527997143725323892303%990%
Natural sciences5446861275171724043426216%530%
Philosophy and religion134174244294365557119%316%
Social sciences and society46854979099814301854113%296%
Sports and recreation3845461074140223503802265%890%
Video games1682203734436841349164%703%
Warfare155241989165425443996967%2478%
Total367450169813127882066030487248%730%
Organisms*1191304025286851017344%755%

*subset of natural sciences

Unsurprisingly, the number of GAs has increased more rapidly than the number of FAs. Organisms, which is a subcategory of Natural sciences, has seen a GA growth of 755% since 2008, besting the Natural sciences overall growth of 530%. While Warfare had far and away the most significant growth of GAs, it's a clear outlier relative to other categories.

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Lol. FunkMonk (talk) 21:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
And he wonders why he gets reported on sight... Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 22:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I wonder if he just copied that notice from his own talk pages, he must have gotten a couple, haha... FunkMonk (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

WT:FAC

I'm afraid you will get nowhere in that discussion. He is impervious to anything that does not agree with him, and will never admit he is wrong, even when the evidence is clearly shown to him. I have no idea why there is such an inflexible and combative approach, but good luck otherwise! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, well, I have not had any past encounters with him, so maybe my points can get more cleanly across because there's no prior "beef" between us... FunkMonk (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
I hope that's the case, but it doesn't look positive so far! Good luck! - SchroCat (talk) 16:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Just saw his latest reply, I give up, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Harpy eagle

Hi, I found you to be one of the intelligent person in Animals, do you think this prominent eagle's article is already ready for GA to be nominated? 124.123.30.165 (talk) 05:20, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I see a bunch of unsourced paragraphs, so it would still need some work. Could probably also be expanded. FunkMonk (talk) 08:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Mountain zebra skull

Hello. Would you be able to take a look at this? Read the second paragraph of "skull", Could you break that down in simpler language. I'd like to give a general description of the mountain zebra's head. Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Ooh, much of that seems to be specifically mammal anatomy, which I'm not too familiar with (mainly with reptile skulls). Maybe you can give it a try, and I can look it over and change if something looks off? What I often do is just google the various terms while writing, I can usually translate most terms that way. FunkMonk (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, you can take a look at my sandbox. LittleJerry (talk) 00:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Where on the page can I see the info? FunkMonk (talk) 08:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The mountain zebra section of the species box. LittleJerry (talk) 11:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Hmmm, I'm not sure I see "with a shorter upper jaw, straight muzzle" in the source, it is talking about the shape of the suture that connects the nasal bone with the frontal bone, which doesn't translate to the shape of the muzzle itself, and likewise, I'm not sure the length of the maxillary tuberosity influences how short the upper jaw is. I think you'd have to stick pretty close to what the source says to not lose meaning, or maybe just not mention it. I'd probably say eye socket instead of orbit too. I think it is more understandable to mention the squarer nuchal crest, as that's plainly visible to anyone on the back of a horse's skull, unlike sutures and tuberosities. FunkMonk (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Kenomagnathus image copyright

We had this discussion a while back: [7]

I think I understand how the copyright system works now. The copyright of any given article in Palaeontologia Electronica can be held by one of a few different organizations: SVP, PalSoc/PalAss, or Coquina Press. If the copyright is held by SVP or Coquina Press, it is CC BY. If it is held by PalSoc/PalAss, it is CC BY-NC-SA. Since the copyright of the Kenomagnathus paper is held by SVP, it is CC BY so the images can be uploaded to Commons.

It may be worth going over other images we have from that journal on Commons... Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 20:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The specific paper says this[8]: "Copyright: January 2020 Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/" So I think it may differ from paper to paper, Royal Society B also had articles with different licenses from the same journal, for example. FunkMonk (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Another Palaeontologia Electronica paper[9]: "Copyright: © June 2017 Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" FunkMonk (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
This is really weird. I kind of want to get in touch with the journal to see what's going on. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 21:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
They have a copyright page[10] stating something along the lines of what you said, but I can't seem to correlate them with any of those papers. But it's probably easiest to ask them. That's how I found out the Acta Electronica Polonica journal became CC licensed retroactively when they changed their copyright, by sending them an email. But in any event, we would have to check their papers individually. FunkMonk (talk) 21:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The editor got back to me. It was a mistake — the article is CC BY. I think that means the images are usable :) Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Nice! But will they fix it on the website? Otherwise it will be hard for us to "prove" if someone nominates the images for deletion. By the way, nice work on Eichstaettisaurus, there is an Acta Polonia paper[11] with more free images, I wonder whether they should be used, or if you maybe had trouble extracting them? FunkMonk (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
I just checked and it is fixed. About the Eichstaettisaurus paper — Figure 11 is in the article already. I wasn't too big on the other images.... only Figs 2-4 and 11 pertain to Eichstaettisaurus, the article has the equivalent of Fig 2 in colour, Fig 11 is basically a more useful version of Fig 3. Fig 4 might be useful but it's a bit confusing as is. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Alright, so I guess you already know how to extract images from PDFs, that's the important thing! FunkMonk (talk) 17:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Synonym lists in taxoboxes

I agree that there should be a wider discussion of how to handle synonym lists in taxoboxes, including the issues of ordering and hiding.

Peter coxhead (talk) 06:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Nice, I think a discussion at TOL could be begun with this text? I think synonym lists are a special case that is hard to compare with anything else, but that can be discussed further at TOL. FunkMonk (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Maaradactylus spielbergi merge

Hey! Hope I'm not disturbing ya! I've seen that merge proposal you initiated at Maaradactylus spielbergi, and only few papers use it's former name Coloborhychus spielbergi, so merging (or redirecting) it to Maaradactylus would be better? The fact that the article only has 4 paragraphs, which can be mentioned in at least 2 sentences (if merged), it's gonna be easier and probably better than keeping a separate article for a separate species, right? So, should we merge it any time soon? The discusion started months ago, and I think sufficient users have commented their thoughts (or maybe not...?). JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

I'd think so, but it's always good to get more opinions.. FunkMonk (talk) 19:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
So, we should inform more users about the subject then, but it has to be someone that knows at least something about what we're talking about? Oh, and if we want to talk about basis, this paper is cited in the Maaradactylus article, might give some brief mentions about the reassigning of the species from Coloborhynchus to Maaradactylus, so I think it's a probable reference for the merge. I might also add some info to the Maaradactylus article about M. spielbergi and its reassignment, so if the merge is agreed, then we'll just have to delete the content and not think so much about what to put. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 20:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I mean more users will probably comment on the talk page down the line. It isn't a particularly pressing issue, and we can also just wait until more papers support the conclusion. FunkMonk (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I guess we'll just leave it how it is? Would you still consider adding more info about M. spielbergi in the main article? Also, looks like most of our discussions just end up with me giving up on what to say, hehe, such as this [12] one! Anyway, looks like you want this discussion ended for now, so I'll just leave it as well, you do (and probably will) have a point on new papers coming. JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 21:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
I definitely think you could add the relevant info, then a merge will be quick and easy when it happens. FunkMonk (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
The merge might not be into action soon, but thanks for the consideration of the idea in general! JurassicClassic767 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Kampecaris

I don't think Kampecaris is monotypic. Fossilworks lists a Kampecaris forfarensis. And Peach 1899 describes a new species of Kampecaris, not a new genus. Abductive (reasoning) 01:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, in that case the genus name should have remained a red link, but it was a redirect. In any case, we usually keep prehistoric species covered at the genus level. FunkMonk (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
I leave it to you to add the other species then. Abductive (reasoning) 01:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter

May 2020—Issue 014


Tree of Life


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Lythronax by FunkMonk, Lythronaxargestes and IJReid
Meerkat by Sainsf, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Borchgrevinkium by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Amitchell125
Nakalipithecus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Gog the Mild
Scanisaurus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Gog the Mild
Sand cat by BhagyaMani, reviewed by Aven13
Pigs in culture by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Sainsf
Sun bear by Sainsf, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Megacephalosaurus by Macrophyseter, reviewed by Aven13
Cinnamon red bat by Enwebb, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Banteng by Sainsf, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
Cartorhynchus by Lythronaxargestes, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Black-footed cat by BhagyaMani, reviewed by Amitchell125
Homo ergaster by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
Black coral by Aven13, reviewed by Sainsf
Heuglin's gazelle by Sainsf, reviewed by The Rambling Man
Australopithecus garhi by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Hog Farm
Chororapithecus by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by IJReid
Ornithocheiromorpha by JurassicClassic767, reviewed by IJReid






Newly nominated content

Gigantorhynchus by Mattximus
Leech by LittleJerry, Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth
List of mephitids by PesN
Sand cat by BhagyaMani
Cinnamon red bat by Enwebb
Kristianstad Basin by Ichthyovenator
Nakalipithecus by Dunkleosteus77
Scanisaurus by Ichthyovenator
Sun bear by Sainsf
Heuglin's gazelle by Sainsf
Black coral by Aven13
Australopithecus garhi by Dunkleosteus77
Chororapithecus by Dunkleosteus77
Northern crested newt by Tylototriton
Megacephalosaurus by Macrophyseter
Banteng by Sainsf
Cartorhynchus by Lythronaxargestes
Ornithocheiromorpha by JurassicClassic767
Black-footed cat by BhagyaMani
Bat virome by Enwebb
Echinodon by IJReid
Homo ergaster by Ichthyovenator
Dwarf dog-faced bat by Enwebb
Doedicurus by Dunkleosteus77
Zebra by LittleJerry

Passerea
Otidae

Otidimorphae (cuckoos, bustards, turacos)

Strisores (hummingbirds, swifts, nightbirds)

Gruae

Opisthocomiformes (hoatzin)

Gruimorphae

Gruiformes (cranes, rails)

Charadriiformes (shorebirds)

Ardeae

Aequornithes (core waterbirds)

Eurypgimorphae (sunbittern, kagu, tropicbirds)

Telluraves
(core landbirds)


Strisores (hummingbirds, swifts, nightbirds)

Columbaves

Columbimorphae (pigeons, mesites, sandgrouse)

Otidimorphae (cuckoos, bustards, turacos)

Gruiformes (cranes, rails)

Aequorlitornithes

Charadriiformes (shorebirds)

Mirandornithes(flamingoes, grebes)

Ardeae

Aequornithes (core waterbirds)

Eurypgimorphae (sunbittern, kagu, tropicbirds)

(waterbirds)
Inopinaves

Columbimorphae (pigeons, mesites, sandgrouse)

Otidimorphae (cuckoos, bustards, turacos)

Strisores (hummingbirds, swifts, nightbirds)

Opisthocomiformes (hoatzin)

Gruiformes (cranes, rails)

Charadriiformes (shorebirds)

Mirandornithes (flamingoes, grebes)

Ardeae

Aequornithes (core waterbirds)

Eurypgimorphae (sunbittern, kagu, tropicbirds)

Do you have any personal projects or goals you're working towards on Wikipedia?

As I said I like organisation and systems. So I find efforts like the automated taxobox system and {{taxonbar}} appealing. I would like to see more reuse of the major phylogenetic trees on Wikipedia with more use of consensus trees on the higher taxa. Too often they get edited based on one recent report and/or without proper citation. Animals and bilateria are examples where this is a problem.

Towards this I have been working on a system of phylogeny templates that can be reused flexibly. The {{Clade transclude}} template allows selective transclusion, so the phylogenetic trees on one page can be reused with modifications, i.e. can be pruned and grafted, used with or without images, with or without collapsible elements, etc. I have an example for the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group classification (see {{Phylogeny/APG IV}}) and one for squamates that also includes collapsible elements (see {{Phylogeny/Squamata}}).

A second project is to have a modular reference system for taxonomic resources. I have made some progress along this lines with the {{BioRef}} template. This started off simply as a way of hardlinking to Catalog of Fishes pages and I’ve gradually expanded it to cover other groups (e..g. FishBase, AmphibiaWeb and Amphibian Species of the World, Reptile Database, the Mammalian Diversity Database). The modular nature is still rudimentary and needs a rewrite before it is ready for wider use.

What would surprise your fellow editors to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?

I don’t think there is anything particularly surprising or interesting about my life. I’ve had an academic career as a research scientist but I don't think anyone could guess the area from my Wikipedia edits. I prefer to work on areas where I am learning at the same time. This why I spend more time with neglected topics (e.g. mosses at the moment). I start reading and then find that I’m not getting the information I want.

Anything else you'd like us to know?

My interest in the classification of things goes beyond biology. I am fascinated by mediaeval attempts to classify knowledge, such as Bacon in his The Advancement of Learning and Diderot and d’Alembert in their Encyclopédie. They were trying to come up with a universal scheme of knowledge just as the printing press was allowing greater dissemination of knowledge.

With the internet we are seeing a new revolution in knowledge dissemination. Just look at how we could read research papers on the COVID virus within weeks of its discovery. With an open internet, everyone has access, not just those with the luxury of books at home or good libraries. Sites like the Biodiversity Heritage Library allow you to read old scientific works without having to visit dusty university library stack rooms, while the taxonomic and checklist databases provide instant information on millions of living species. In principle, the whole world can now find out about anything, even if Douglas Adams warned we might be disinclined to do so.

This is why I like Wikipedia, with all its warts, it’s a means of organising the knowledge on the internet. In just two decades it’s become a first stop for knowledge and hopefully a gateway to more specialised sources. Perhaps developing this latter aspect, beyond providing good sources for what we say, is the next challenge for Wikipedia.

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Enwebb (talk) 19:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

TFA

This is to let you know that the Lythronax article has been scheduled as today's featured article for June 4, 2020. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 4, 2020.—Wehwalt (talk) 14:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool. FunkMonk (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the article, "the first FAC about a tyrannosaur, one of the most famous dinosaur groups, since 2008's Gorgosaurus. It is also one of the few dinosaurs ever mentioned in a presidential proclamation, for rather unfortunate reasons."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Willkommen! FunkMonk (talk) 08:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Zebra range

Hi. Would you be able to create a combined range map for the three zebra species? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 00:11, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I can have a look, what sources, and how would you want it to look? FunkMonk (talk) 09:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
You can look up their ranges on the IUCN. I was thinking making the map like File:Connochaetes map.png LittleJerry (talk) 14:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Can you give me the individual links? Will make it easier to begin. FunkMonk (talk) 14:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
[13] [14] [15] Please use a map of Africa connected to land masses rather than just isolated. LittleJerry (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Like this[16]? FunkMonk (talk) 14:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes. LittleJerry (talk) 20:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Is it going okay? LittleJerry (talk) 23:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

It's a bit of an undertaking, so it might take a little while before I get to it. But you might get a quicker result at for example: Wikipedia:Graphics Lab FunkMonk (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
Mariomassone is much quicker than me at making these, maybe he'd be able to? FunkMonk (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Love to. Mariomassone (talk) 21:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Done. Mariomassone (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Nice, much cleaner than I could have made it. What do you say, LittleJerry? FunkMonk (talk) 20:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Great! Thanks guys. LittleJerry (talk) 21:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

dafuqsa

All seriousness aside, NHMU per se in that caption? Meanwhile ... --Brogo13 (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Once a name of an institution is spelled out at first mention in a caption, as it is under Paleobiology, an abbreviation can be used at subsequent mentions, as it would be assumed the reader has read the earlier caption. FunkMonk (talk) 18:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I (hereby) suggest removing NHMU [recte UMNH]. Etc. --Brogo13 (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Why? FunkMonk (talk) 07:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Because. Say you're new to English—or, worse, a kid—who habitually browses the pictures (and captions) first ... --Brogo13 (talk) 10:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
By that logic, we should cut half of the article because kids won't understand it. But that's what Simple Wikipedia is for. FunkMonk (talk) 10:20, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
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