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Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).
- An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.
- The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).
- A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.
- Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.
Page move request 31
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Phyzelaphryne back to its species page at Phyzelaphryne miriamae? With the addition of Phyzelaphryne nimio in 2018, this genus is now no longer rercognised as monotypic. The species page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Once you have completed the move, I will re-write Phyzelaphryne as a stub genus article. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 22:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 01:36, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, and another one: Calyptocephalella gayi to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Loopy30 (talk) 03:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 03:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- I fear there may be many more of these as it's just an army of frogs or a knot of toads now as I help the Amphibians and Reptiles project convert to automatic taxoboxes. Today's fun includes a request to move Metaphryniscus sosai to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 17:34, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 03:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, and another one: Calyptocephalella gayi to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Loopy30 (talk) 03:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Talk:Red-billed chough
Hi, where did the material you added here come from? DuncanHill (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- No idea, perhaps a transcluded page. It looks like the article was then an FA candidate. Any issue? Shyamal (talk) 02:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill: Ah - found it - the article was nominated for FA under the name of Chough and during the discussion it was renamed. See this Shyamal (talk) 05:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was just looking at the page and was going to add{{unsigned}} to a couple of the posts, but couldn't find them in the history. DuncanHill (talk) 22:10, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill: Ah - found it - the article was nominated for FA under the name of Chough and during the discussion it was renamed. See this Shyamal (talk) 05:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Page move request 32
Hello Shyamal, another day, another frog. Could you please also move Ceratobatrachus to Cornufer guentheri? The species Ceratobatrachus guentheri has been reclassified from its previously monotypic genus and is now part of the genus Cornufer. The species page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 03:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- And also a request to move Metaphryniscus sosai to its monotypic genus page, which is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 22:34, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- And also a request to move Eutaeniophorus festivus to its monotypic genus page, which is also a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 23:47, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Uricotelism
Hi Shyamal- I don't usually edit other people's talkpage posts, but I thought you'd be ok with my change to yours on the Bird talkpage. I wanted to make it more understandable to us non-experts Let me know if you don't agree, and I'll change it back. Eric talk 13:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Page move request 33
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Chrysopaa sternosignata to its monotypic genus page? The genus page is currently a redirect with minimal page history. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
- And also Ombrana sikimensis to its monotypic genus page as well, thanks. Loopy30 (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
Hello,
Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.
I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!
From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.
If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.
Thank you!
--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Page move request 34
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Itapotihyla langsdorffii and Nyctimantis rugiceps to their respective monotypic genus pages? The genus pages are currently redirects with minimal page histories. Thanks again, Loopy30 (talk) 22:13, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 02:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- And also Arlequinus krebsi and Callixalus pictus? Loopy30 (talk) 03:46, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, and also Chrysobatrachus cupreonitens, and Kassinula wittei? Loopy30 (talk) 03:54, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Page move request 35
Hello Shyamal, could you please move Rupirana cardosoi and Scythrophrys sawayae to their respective monotypic genus pages? The genus pages are currently redirects with minimal page histories. Thanks, Loopy30 (talk) 13:43, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 13:47, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- And also Laliostoma labrosum and Boehmantis microtympanum? Loopy30 (talk) 13:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks again. Next is a request to move Borneophrys to Megophrys edwardinae. This species (Borneophrys edwardinae) is now once again classified in the genus Megophrys (reference here). At one time, the article was at the common name, but later moved to the scientific as the common name was not unique. Loopy30 (talk) 13:39, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
- Done Shyamal (talk) 02:38, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
- And also Laliostoma labrosum and Boehmantis microtympanum? Loopy30 (talk) 13:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
The IP had already ramped up to a 1 month for adding unsourced content, now they are back and at it again [1][2]. Could you please re-block? Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:51, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: November 2019
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Season's Greetings
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May your Holidays and the Year that follows shine as much as this coin still does beneath the tarnish of bygone weather and long use. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC) |
- @Fowler&fowler: - thank you, wishing you a great holiday season too! Shyamal (talk) 04:22, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
ThankAWikipedian
I'd like to thank you today as part of Katherine Maher's call for Thank A Wikipedian day on the occasion of Wikipedia's 19th birthday. Prad2609 (talk) 15:51, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).
- Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
- The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with
wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input
. No proposed process received consensus.
- Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
- When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [3]
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
- Voting in the 2020 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2020, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2020, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- The English Wikipedia has reached six million articles. Thank you everyone for your contributions!
This Month in GLAM: January 2020
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Hi, feel free to add your entries to this or whatever region is it for what you've created, there is a Canadian list too! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:09, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Pink-headed duck protection
I was flummoxed to see that Pink-headed Duck is extended-confirmed protected. This is a mistake, right?
Thank you for starting this. Can you expand it and clarify which war he fought in? After a bit more expansion it may be eligible for WP:DYK main page feature! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:27, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
long time no speak
oops my typeface on the page is so small i was trying to revert an adjacent item on my watch list - trust all is well seems like a long time since we last spoke JarrahTree 13:34, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- @JarrahTree: - no worries! Hope you are doing well. Seems like you were planning to attend the Bangkok meet. I decided not to and it was not because of the coronavirus but more to do with the dreariness of large metropolises. Shyamal (talk) 13:37, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
- complicated - indeed the dreariness is one thing I agree, the predictability of the same issue whether jakarta and delhi (my most resent experiences) - all the same issues are hardly inviting to say the least JarrahTree 13:41, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Dawson Turner
hello @ShyamalI think you may have made a mistake when updating Dawson Turner recently: you have said he married Gretna Green, replacing the previous statement that his second wife was Rosamund Duff.
- What is the truth here? -- jw (talk) 22:03, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gretna Green is a place and a common venue or marriages. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Jwikip: My error! I have restored that part and inserted "at" Gretna Green (thanks Andy). Shyamal (talk) 03:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- It might be worth giving an indication as to why Dalton and Rosamund's marriage was contracted in a place renowned for irregular runaway marriages. I almost missed this one when I read the page casually yesterday ... then suddenly my subconscious pinged me "... Gretna? ... that's an unusual name!" :) -- jw (talk) 07:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Jwikip: It seems that Rosamund was about 30 years younger, came from a status not befitting the upper-class banking family (and appears to have been involved in some "alleged" manuscript thefts) - see https://books.google.com/books?id=qDCoDQAAQBAJ&lpg=PT392&vq=Rosamund&dq=%22Rosamund%20Duff%22%20%22Dawson%20Turner%22&pg=PT11#v=snippet&q=Rosamund&f=false Shyamal (talk) 07:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- It might be worth giving an indication as to why Dalton and Rosamund's marriage was contracted in a place renowned for irregular runaway marriages. I almost missed this one when I read the page casually yesterday ... then suddenly my subconscious pinged me "... Gretna? ... that's an unusual name!" :) -- jw (talk) 07:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Jwikip: My error! I have restored that part and inserted "at" Gretna Green (thanks Andy). Shyamal (talk) 03:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Help
Dear sir,I am new here and recently I create an article in my draftspace about a female leader and when it get completed I tried to move it to article page but there someone previously uses her name and redirects her name to new name (his husband's name).
Here is my draft, https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/en/Draft:Heena_Shahab
Her husband (which redirected from Heena Shahab) https://www.search.com.vn/wiki/en/Mohammad_Shahabuddin
They both are diffrent person. (Husband and wife)When I read rules, I saw that admins can help to improve it.
Help me sir. Sturdyankit (talk) 00:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Sturdyankit: as mentioned by someone on your talk page - best to go through the process at Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation, I will mark your article for review so that someone can help. Shyamal (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear sir,I have a small request, I don't know how to rename a page.So, please sir rename it from Heena Sahab to Heena Shahab or move it.Please respond. Sturdyankit (talk) 05:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Sturdyankit: it is already at Draft:Heena Shahab. You would need to submit your article for review once you can demonstrate WP:NOTABILITY of the subject and have reliable citations for all the content - WP:SOURCES. Shyamal (talk) 05:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
TFA
Thank you today for what you added to Francis Willughby, introduced by Jim: "I live about 20 miles from Willughby's former home, and the publication of two major books in the last few years made it a no-brainer to write about the "first true ornithologist"." - Proud to share the page, with Jessye Norman, Naomi Munakata and Jennifer Bate, a bit of a sad record. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Misplaced credit, I am afraid. This gem is entirely due to @Jimfbleak: - stay safe, everyone. Shyamal (talk) 08:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- Nono, of course he got it first, but he mentioned your name, so ... ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi there, hope you're well.
I've just come across this new article you're creating, and can see that a similar article exists in French Wikipedia - but note that neither have any references at all at present. Have you come across any that would fit?
If not, I'll send it over to WP:PRUSSIA and WP:RUSSIA to try and see if one of the subject experts there has any citations for it.
Thanks! | Naypta✉ opened his mouth at 11:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
- Argh, I'd somehow missed that there's an article on the Russian wiki that has a ton of references! I'll add a "expand language" tag from that. Sorry for troubling you! | Naypta✉ opened his mouth at 11:14, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Rungiah
Thank you for your message re Rungiah - I have a special fondness for botanical illustration and have long wondered why the article had not been created. I see that you have uploaded some of Rungiah's work to Commons and the thought occurs that you might have more biographical material than is easily found on the net cheers Paul venter (talk) 15:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, I do know an expert on Rungiah, Dr Henry Noltie of RBG Edinburgh, unfortunately I do not think there is much apart from the artwork, and perhaps payments made by Wight to him, but I can check if there is more that Noltie has published (or induce him to publish so that we can cite it!). Shyamal (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
That would be great - I have seen adverts for his proposed books all over the web. Thank you for the headsup re the genus Rungia - I have corrected it - enormous coincidence of names! Paul venter (talk) 07:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Paul venter: You can contact him at HNoltie@rbge.org.uk - what proposed books? I think there is some coverage in the 2nd of the 3 volume Wight books - but I cannot access it (and not for a good while now). Shyamal (talk) 10:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
- May 2020—Issue 014
- Tree of Life
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Do you have any personal projects or goals you're working towards on Wikipedia?
As I said I like organisation and systems. So I find efforts like the automated taxobox system and {{taxonbar}} appealing. I would like to see more reuse of the major phylogenetic trees on Wikipedia with more use of consensus trees on the higher taxa. Too often they get edited based on one recent report and/or without proper citation. Animals and bilateria are examples where this is a problem.
Towards this I have been working on a system of phylogeny templates that can be reused flexibly. The {{Clade transclude}} template allows selective transclusion, so the phylogenetic trees on one page can be reused with modifications, i.e. can be pruned and grafted, used with or without images, with or without collapsible elements, etc. I have an example for the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group classification (see {{Phylogeny/APG IV}}) and one for squamates that also includes collapsible elements (see {{Phylogeny/Squamata}}).
A second project is to have a modular reference system for taxonomic resources. I have made some progress along this lines with the {{BioRef}} template. This started off simply as a way of hardlinking to Catalog of Fishes pages and I’ve gradually expanded it to cover other groups (e..g. FishBase, AmphibiaWeb and Amphibian Species of the World, Reptile Database, the Mammalian Diversity Database). The modular nature is still rudimentary and needs a rewrite before it is ready for wider use.
What would surprise your fellow editors to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?
I don’t think there is anything particularly surprising or interesting about my life. I’ve had an academic career as a research scientist but I don't think anyone could guess the area from my Wikipedia edits. I prefer to work on areas where I am learning at the same time. This why I spend more time with neglected topics (e.g. mosses at the moment). I start reading and then find that I’m not getting the information I want.
Anything else you'd like us to know?
My interest in the classification of things goes beyond biology. I am fascinated by mediaeval attempts to classify knowledge, such as Bacon in his The Advancement of Learning and Diderot and d’Alembert in their Encyclopédie. They were trying to come up with a universal scheme of knowledge just as the printing press was allowing greater dissemination of knowledge.
With the internet we are seeing a new revolution in knowledge dissemination. Just look at how we could read research papers on the COVID virus within weeks of its discovery. With an open internet, everyone has access, not just those with the luxury of books at home or good libraries. Sites like the Biodiversity Heritage Library allow you to read old scientific works without having to visit dusty university library stack rooms, while the taxonomic and checklist databases provide instant information on millions of living species. In principle, the whole world can now find out about anything, even if Douglas Adams warned we might be disinclined to do so.
This is why I like Wikipedia, with all its warts, it’s a means of organising the knowledge on the internet. In just two decades it’s become a first stop for knowledge and hopefully a gateway to more specialised sources. Perhaps developing this latter aspect, beyond providing good sources for what we say, is the next challenge for Wikipedia.
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