- The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.
User:Serafin
- Suspected sockpuppeteer
- Serafin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Arudra (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - Indef Blocked
- 131.104.218.46 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 207.245.84.70 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Ptak (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - Indef Blocked
- 216.171.96.18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 168.213.1.132 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 201.17.8.36 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 204.13.69.220 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 58.68.39.229 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 202.167.254.68 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Erudra (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - Indef Blocked
- 219.66.235.103 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Contra Nazi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (also has signed as "Edgar")
- Snieg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - Indef Blocked
- 210.245.160.188 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- 168.215.123.44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Deszcz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) - Indef Blocked
- 202.134.182.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Report submission by
Philip Gronowski Contribs 04:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence
User:Serafin and User:Arudra have both been making incredibly similar (Arudra, Serafin) POV edits to articles and both appear to have a similar agenda. They also appear to share an i.p. which edits articles in the exact same ways that these two do. A check user would be very useful in this situation to establish if sockpuppetry is occurring. Arudra has a small ammount of edits but I believe that there is a decent case to present here. The i.p. edits are really convincing me as well. Philip Gronowski Contribs 03:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For User:131.104.218.46 here is my other evidence:
Incredibly similar edits, all about the same topics, User:Arudra is a common go between as well. Self admitted here and 131.104.218.46 being used to escape block. Pretty straightforward I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip Gronowski (talk • contribs)
User:207.245.84.70 claims to be Serafin and uses a similar editing style. Olessi 06:53, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ptak (talk · contribs) - Responding to comments left for Serafin: [1] } — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.smith (talk • contribs)
- 216.171.96.18 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has not been used since the block.
- 168.213.1.132 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been used since the block and has a similar editing style as Serafin's.
- 201.17.8.36 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been used since the block and signs as "AS".
- 204.13.69.220 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been used since the block and signs as "AS".
- 58.68.39.229 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been used since the block and signs as "AS".
Is it possible that Serafin does not realize he is breaking the rules by using these IP addresses while User:Serafin is blocked? Olessi 17:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- 202.167.254.68 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) signs as "AS"
- Erudra (talk · contribs)'s name is nearly identical to Arudra (talk · contribs) and edits the same articles as Serafin.
- 219.66.235.103 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has not signed as "AS", but has discussed similar topics and has a similar style of discussion. He responds here to comments about Serafin. Olessi 20:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Contra Nazi (talk · contribs) signed as "Andrew" in his first edit. 131.104.218.146 has signed as "Edgar" on the German WP. That IP has also signed as Serafin and as "AS".
On the German WP, this user(s) used the names Aserafin, Bserafin, and Cserafin, all of which have been blocked. On the English WP, he has used Arudra and Erudra (Andrew and Edgar?). Olessi 20:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Further suspected sock puppets of the user on the German Wikipedia, all of which have been blocked as well. All three of them were trying to continue an edit war started by Aserafin related to the dates of birth (history) and death (history) of Johann/Jan Dzierzon. --Le petit prince 20:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ptak An additional sock puppet of the user on the German Wikipedia (indef blocked today). --Le petit prince 11:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Dlugopis Another sock puppet of the user on the German Wikipedia created for the sole purpose to continue his edit wars over there (...again, in rather broken German). Indef blocked today. --Le petit prince 22:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In the English wikipedia he also uses the following accounts:
- Deszcz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (same articles, same language: "There is nothing like Silesian nation recognized internationally presently" Aserafin, November 22; "To be more exact Silesians is not a nation recognized internationally, by present Poland or by the past communist regime." Deszcz
- Snieg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (same name as a sockpuppet of his in the German-language wikipedia)Sciurinæ 13:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Today's sockpuppet (sigh! :-( ) on the German Wikipedia:
- Wiatr (indef block as usual)
Reported by another user on de:Wikipedia:Vandalismusmeldung:
210.245.160.188 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) signs as Serafin[2] while evading yet another block.
- Comments
I've made some blocks:
- 207.245.84.70 - Hard-blocked for 1 week
- Serafin - Hard-blocked 72 hours
- Arudra - Indef softblock.
I hope this gets his attention. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 08:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
After a Checkuser case has confirmed further sockpuppetry, Serafin has been blocked for another month by User:Heimstern. Olessi 07:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Conclusions
All named accounts blocked; recent IPs blocked. Checkuser cases are ongoing. Closing. --Akhilleus (talk) 23:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]