User talk:Kelapstick/Archive 3

Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/2nd--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 01:53, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool.--kelapstick (talk) 05:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

...the bacon

I shall not. --kelapstick (talk) 00:26, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Very nicely done article! The book itself is excellent and thought-provoking. I could not find enough notability sources to feel confident of meeting notability, and am very glad to see the article. Thank you. - Sinneed 22:00, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! We have Thinking in Pictures at home, but I haven't read it yet. I was actually looking for sources to write that article, I came up unsuccessful, however I found the ones for Animals in Translation so decided to go from there. Cheers.--kelapstick (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I like to think that with each article I learn something new. As to the DAmbP for Tom, I created that one as it was needed, due to several TH's. can you point me to a couple of Bio's you think are really well done? That would be even more help. At least partly because when I tried to edit one your way, someone else came back to me a told me to do it this way.^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 23:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

That's all very helpful, thanks. Except your version has the DC degree before the BA and that's the hearse before the horse. :) If you would like to be reallllly helpful, I would really appreciate someone taking the bull by the horns and redacting the bio I have on my user page at User:Drsjpdc/Stephen J. Press2, then moving it to a live page. I know its too busy, but everything is well referenced, and there's relly no notability issue anymore, especially since the FICS page is past AfD on that issue, and I was the founder. At the moment I am doing everyone else's bio's and no one to post mine :(

BTW: If you are interested, there's now [[1]] and the associated blog at [[2]]. Love to have your input there too, on general matters.^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 00:02, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Several have looked at it; DigitalC, DGG (an Admin) and others; no one disputes the notability issue, some just feel there's too much there. Truly appreciate your doing that, it would be a great holiday gift.

BTW: if you look at Wikichiro, we got the blog working too. Love to have you visit and input there. Perhaps we can sort of use this site to sandbox further ideas for pedia? ^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 17:54, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know exactly what Drsjpdc means by "no one disputes the notability issue", but unless he means "everyone agrees that the subject is non-notable" then it's not the case. ^Bongo_matic 21:01, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I would agree with you Bongo, I am not clearly on side with notability issues, however a case could be made that he meets Wikipedia:Notability (academics) as president of the International Federation of Sports Chiropractic. I however do not like the "this person held this office, so they meet inclusion criteria" arguments, and am sketchy on chiropractic journals being independent enough to be used to establish notability for chiropractors. Regardless I had looked at Dr. Press' page a while ago and saw it was something of a Gong Show, so when I was asked, I performed some cleanup work. Regardless, I am not going to move it over until there is what I consider a third party reference included (again chiropractic journals are not enough for me), but I think I was able to tweak the tone and material enough to improve it should someone decide to take it live. --kelapstick (talk) 21:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, I appreciate the effort (I think). Though it may have been not a little disingenuous if the idea was then not to accept the basis that the "founding of, and serving as president, of an Internationally recognized agency that changed Sports Chiropractic forever, per se makes for notability, and then to tell someone who challenges virtually every positive article about chiropractic's "notability", that you have no plans on having it go prime time. You also removed at least a couple of the foreign NEWSPAPER's article that covered meetings in their countries WITH photo spreads, with their Ministers of Sport and top General, etc. that would have seriously contributed to the whole notability issue, thereby playing directly into the goals of those who would prevent this. Do you really think that a kindness? In Russian we have an expression for that; медвежа услуга, "a Bear's service". It means someone does something initially intended to be kind, and by dint of performing the kindness, manages to step on your toes. Regards. Is that what you really intended??? BTW: Are medical journals enough to prove an MD's "notability"  ? If so, and I think there are plenty of examples out there, then this is an unfair double standard. See WP:ANYBIO criterion 2, and also 1, (i.e. the "FICS's Gold Medal".

"Highest International Award for a sports Chiro...

How does this not qualify, if the rules apply to us the same as for others?  :( ^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 22:02, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to revert my edits, however I was going through and removing what I didn't see as pertinent to an encyclopedia article, such as

During the trip, he met with the Sports Minister of Venezuela, Sra. Flor Isava-Fonseca, and discussed the future recognition of the International Federation of Sports Chiropractic, by the IOC

Maybe it's just me, but I don't qualify that detail as being appropriate for an encyclopedia article about someone. You went to Venezuela and met with somebody and discussed something. Who you talked to and what you discussed on a given trip is far to detailed a subject for an encyclopedia. As for winning the gold medal from the International Federation of Sports Chiropractic, I see it as this way, you were given an award by an organization that you founded, I don't consider that to be enough for ANYBIO. I'm not saying I am fighting for deletion should it go live, but I am not going to be the one to take it there. If you want to put in information that I removed, go ahead, but you asked me to review it and I took down what I thought was inappropriate. --kelapstick (talk) 22:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

What about my having been the ONLY DC ever to serve in any capacity on the Medical Commission of any IOC recognized international federation; and I was Chairman of one, and founded the other (and for 200 Countries) i.e., (FIDE)? I was the one who was put in the position to first tell the World Chess Champions that they ahd to pee in a cup? :) This really was a cause celébre, and you took all that out too, including the articles in the NY newspapers that mentioned that!! That night I was in Massachusetts at the USCF meeting, Jay Leno did his monologue about me. How is this not notable, unless is only due to my being a DC. If that had been anyone else, I daresay this would not be questioned. And, BTW: I didn't ask for the FICS medal, that was the Board of Directors, who had been duly elected by the representatives of the then 40 Countries in FICS. They totally surprised me with that award. Maybe these people acting independently on behalf of the Nations that elected them actually thought I earned that medal? ^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 23:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I was torn on the chess issue, and I am not saying that you were involved in giving yourself a medal. The key is neutrality, and as it sat it looked like a resume. Feel free to add it (in prose, not in list format), and I can tweak it (not simply remove it) as required, if you want. --kelapstick (talk) 23:12, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I have done some additional editing. (I've removed some of his ancestors, but I've added back the chess.) We normally only include books and peer-reviewed journal articles as professional publications, so I have removed some which are apparently not. DGG ( talk )

I have put in place a small, short rangeblock for the IPs you reported (8 IPs, 24 hours). Please feel free to re-report if there are more problems. TNXMan 17:23, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

That should take care of things. Thanks, and have a great holiday.--kelapstick (talk) 17:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Opinion sought about User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox/Kevin Rockett. I believe even at this stage the subject meets Wikipedia:Notability (academics). I am ready to turn it loose and let others join in on the fun. What'cha think? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:04, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd love to help, but I will be rather inactive over the holidays. Cheers MQS, and merry Kwanz-ick-mas. kelapstick (talk) 05:05, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas, K-stick, to you and yours. Did you have fun buying presents for your little man? I hope he's doing well. Good luck to the Wolf Pack. Take care of yourself! Drmies (talk) 18:15, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Likewise Doc (and A Nobody, or anyone else who happens to stop by this page.) This is the first time I have been on a "real computer" over the break, I am somewhat "off the grid" over the next week or so. Happy holidays to everyone! --kelapstick (talk) 20:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Firstly, have you see the brouhaha that was created by [[3]] over the fact that I helped platinumphotog.. create a user page? All of a sudden he's my sockpuppet and the whole article which you more than anyone wrote is poorly written trash!! That's of course, only because he thinks I wrote it. He was judging me as a suspected sockpuppeteer, and violator of COI, not a respected colleague. Wrong! I have written him a full explanation asking his to withdraw the accusations. I hope that he reconsiders his erroneus position.

Also, I have wracked my poor brains, but I cant understand why Dr. Auerbach's page as well as that of Dr. Tom Hyde are showing up on the category lists under their FIRST names. Any ideas?? ^Д-р_{СДжП,ДС} 04:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I have been "out of the loop" for the last week, Christmas and whatnot, but I have been reviewing it at a "high level". There are a few things I think you should understand, I saw Platinumphotographer and was suspicious. The thing here is WP:DUCK, his first order of business is to exclusively work on articles that you work on, including moving your biography into the mainspace. I am willing to assume good faith here and believe that it is a colleague of yours, since they have a DC infobox on their userpage and in their signature, however even someone working on your behalf (i.e. moving your bio into mainspace so it isn't done by you is still not cool.) So here is my point, I can understand why people would be suspicious of sock/meat puppetry. As far as calling the article trash, I don't think it was my best work, and I should have spent more time working on it, but I was pressed (with the holidays coming up), and truthfully I should have waited until I had more free time, which I don't think is coming anyway. Also, look at this history, you did start the article, even if you copied a previous version from somewhere, I think you started the original. As far as the COI issue, you will always have a COI when writing about yourself, even if you try not to, the perception will always be there. Which is why it is always best not to write about yourself (or a family member). I think that the only way you will "clear your name" is to go through a checkuser to make sure that you two aren't the same person.

Another thing is, I meant to tell you that the degree scans are not appropriate (it was brought up on a talk page), what you need is to find a source that says where you got your degree, and cite that.

This might not be what you would want to hear, but it is the way it is here. As for the sorting of the two articles above, you need to use a defaultsort template, for example {{DEFAULTSORT:Hyde, Tom}}, so that it is always sorted by his last name. Hope this helps. --kelapstick (talk) 17:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I know the Canadian New Year won't occur until several months from now, but I hope you can share in your adopted home's celebrations. Cheerios. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

likewise to you and those who visit this page regularly, and irregularly. kelapstick (talk) 04:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

K-stick, all the best to you and yours, even if I'm only an irregular visitor. Take care buddy, Drmies (talk) 07:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi there. I see that you have made several edits to this article, including proposing it for deletion. That PROD was overturned, but I still believe the subject is non-notable, and have nominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dave Warwak. Robofish (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate the heads up. kelapstick (talk) 01:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming me, Kelapstick!

I do have a question for you please, I see that many editors here have their user names in different colors, do you know how to do that? PamelaBMX (talk) 16:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

You can edit your signature by using the preferences link at the top of the page. Under User Profile (the default screen) there is a signature section. You have to put the code for your new signature in there. There is a discussion here with some examples of how to use colours, and you should also read Wikipedia:Signatures for the relevant guidelines as to what you should and shouldn't use (example, you need a link to either your talk or user page, and you should make sure that colours that you use will still be distinguishable by people who are colour blind etc.) I haven't done much myself, but this should get you on the right path. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 16:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the solidworks article. I am unable at this time to work any of the info I found into the article, but I was able to find a handful of books written independantly of RS Solidworks Corp about the software. It is therefore notable according to the Wiki:Notability guildines. I have attached a link to the book in the talk page and removed the notability tag. In my opinion the tag should never have been added. However, the article still badly needs some 3rd party references incorporated into the article. Thanks again! CoolMike (talk) 23:39, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hello Sir - Just wondering why you undid my edits. I am trying to create the Embedded Systems Conference page and was trying to link it to other pages. Thanks! Nherbw (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I meant to mention this on your talk page, but neglected to. Typically you are encouraged to write the article about a subject before adding it to a list. Further to that, the conference you had listed had 10,000 in attendance, and while there is no hard and fast rule, the inclusion criteria has been about 50,000.--kelapstick (talk) 16:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Information! I noticed that the conferences on that page had a lot more attendees!Anyway, I'm still new to this so thanks for your help. Nherbw (talk) 17:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem, let me know if you have any more questions. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 18:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Tom Hyde. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

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Thanks Erwin. kelapstick (talk) 03:32, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to comment here. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't think there is much that I can add that hasn't already been said. Checkuser is endorsed so I will wait until that is completed before I do anything else.--kelapstick (talk) 16:03, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I hate you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.29.42 (talk) 02:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Just a quick reminder that the Second Great Wikipedia Dramaout has begun. Please log any work you do at Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/2nd/Log. Good luck! --Jayron32 01:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for keeping an eye and making improvements to this article. There seem to be two POV factions at work. One, 67.77.205.62 seems to by from Reid's campaign making edits like this. On the Anti-Reid side, 98.180.237.122, (and probably a sock 98.180.233.57 as they have the same edit patterns and both have the same Ohio location) have been making edits like this. This user has already been blocked once for WP:BLP violations.

Keep up the good work! --Oakshade (talk) 01:12, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Still needs work, but it's a start. I'm warchlisting it now. kelapstick (talk) 01:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:52, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

from user talk:ikip:

I saw your post on MQS's page about Wikipedia:Wikiproject new user welcome, but (in my opinion) the scope of the project is not related to the title of the project. I understand that you are looking for ways to preserve the articles in question, however the title looks like you are looking for ways to ensure the articles are sourced properly in the first place...My opinion is they are both worthy causes, just your nomenclature is confusing. Cheers (and good luck). --kelapstick (talk) 19:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC) It is related indirectly now, I agree. What would you suggest as a new name? I can rename it temporarily, and name it back later when the project is expanded. I am sure there is already a project like this out there, I just couldn't find it.

I have been thinking of starting this project for some time. By hosting it on a user wikipage, we can get this off the ground without the lurkers trying to ruin it.

I envision the project expanding well beyond BLPs, to figure out how to retain newbies, but for now, the focus will be the BLP only.

Again, I really appreciate your insightful, intellegent comments.

Ikip 19:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't know you from adam, but you seem like a really smart guy, edit away and be bold. maybe you have some ideas, some alternatives to work collaberatively to weed out the poor articles? please share those ideas. Ikip 20:08, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Your wonderful, god bless. Ikip 21:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar may be awarded to especially tireless Wikipedians who contribute an especially large body of work without sacrificing quality. This barnstar is award to Kelapstick, for his efforts in rebuilding a future wikiproject from scratch. To help stop the wholesale deletion of 48,000 articles as being discussed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people. Your oratory skills are nothing short of miraculous! Ikip 22:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Why thank you...--kelapstick (talk) 22:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Hows this? CBW, somthing lame 05:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh can't spell. something lame from CBW 05:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Kelapstick/Archive 3, I would like to invite you and anyone watching who shares an interest in moving forward constructively to a discussion about Biographies of Living People

New editors' lack of understanding of Wikipedia processes has resulted in thousands of BLPs being created over the last few years that do not meet BLP requirements. We are currently seeking constructive proposals on how to help newcomers better understand what is expected, and how to improve some 48,000 articles about living people as created by those 17,500 editors, through our proper cleanup, expansion, and sourcing. These constructive proposals might then be considered by the community as a whole at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people. Please help us: >> User:Ikip/Discussion about creation of possible Wikiproject:New Users and BLPs <<

Ikip 05:06, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(refactored) Ikip 04:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ikip, good luck with the house. kelapstick (talk) 04:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

thank you :) that was nice ;) Ikip 05:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

... of this: User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox/Newcomer's_guide_to_guidelines? Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 22:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll have a look. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 22:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw that you removed my edit on the Bacon Explosion page. You state that a forum is not considered a reliable source. I disagree as all of the threads are dated and contain photographic documentation of the creation therefore proving of their existance. I personally (and many others that I know) have made things very similar to the Bacon Explosion and long before their claim that they invented it. www.smokingmeatforums.com is one of the most highly respected forums on the topic of smoking meats and other food related items. This forum is a component of http://www.smoking-meat.com/ which is the number one ranked smoking meat website on Google. This should provide proof enough for you please reinstate my edit made earlier today. Your reply would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.60.70 (talk) 02:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

As a founding member of the Bacon Cabal I appreciate the gravity of the situation, and understand what an impact a scandal such as this can have on the integrity of bacon dishes in all forms. However despite smoking-meat.com's status as the forum of record for all smoked meat, as a rule, Wikipedia does not permit the use of user generated content for use as a source in articles. User-generated material includes (but is not exclusive to), forums, blogs, myspace pages, and Wikipedia itself (that is to say you can not use a Wikipedia article as a source in another Wikipedia article). If you can find a reliable source (newspaper, magazine, etc.) that claims that the Bacon Explosion had been invented prior to what is shown in the article, I would be happy to integrate it into the article myself. Hope this helps.--kelapstick (talk) 16:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

As the current head-joker of the Bacon Cabal, I cannot but agree with what our founder has to say. Such claims need to be gotten to the bottom of, but all subsequent statements need to be verified and scrutinized and must adhere to Wikipedia's standards--if not, WP may forfeit its status and reputation as one of the more foremost founts of bacon lore and wisdom. Hail to the pig, Drmies (talk) 16:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

New article FYI. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, a friend of mine from high school is a mountie near there, well maybe a coupe hours, but NS isn't that big. Unfortunately I dont have time for expansion, I didn't even have enough to expand Cows (ice cream) to dyk length...kelapstick (talk) 04:46, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Someone was cranking out Nova Scotia stubs today. This article : Jack Evans (darts Player) will probably interest you. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

With a nickname like "Danger Zone" I don't know how notability could be questioned. kelapstick (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

"He also used to have a short fuse." ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the infobox portrays an "indication of importance" or not...--kelapstick (talk) 17:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I had to do it.. In order to play in the Players Championship Finals you have to be in the top 32 players in the Order of Merit, he isn't listed in the Order, so it is clearly a hoax, although not sure if it is going to make it through CSD, might have to AfD it. It's a shame, because he has such an awesome walk on song...--kelapstick (talk) 21:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I just like that "Player" was capitalized. Has snowbagging become notable yet? Are you going to help it expand to new regions? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I may...I hear it is a demonstration sport in the upcoming Vancouver Olympics.--kelapstick (talk) 23:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I had the picture, but hadn't uploaded it...It was good, and easy to make.--kelapstick (talk) 18:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

That looks yummy. I made some last week for a party, and everyone raved. I used Ghirardelli semi-sweet chocolate bars, and it worked like a charm. Bon appetit! Drmies (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

A calzone filled with poutine (fries, cheese & brown gravy) that is cookedin an oven and then deep fried. -Source: This is Why You're Fat

I'll take it.--kelapstick (talk) 19:53, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

NO way...can I have mine with mayonnaise? Drmies (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Check this out. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:07, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

As someone who commented on the BLP workshop I created, please review this proposal to see if it is something that the community would support.

Harsh constructive criticism is very welcome!

Better to figure out the potential objections now. I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community.

Thanks. Okip (formerly Ikip) 03:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

As someone who commented on the BLP workshop I created, please review this proposal to see if it is something that the community would support.

Harsh constructive criticism is very welcome!

Better to figure out the potential objections now. I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community.

Thanks. Okip (formerly Ikip) 03:21, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.Please can you check and see that my article is proper and advice me so that this article isn't deleted.I am creating a page on wikipedia for the 1st time , so shall really appreciate your kind help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratikghosh (talk • contribs) 19:39, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Just ran across your userpage, and I wanted to see the links for references 2 and 3; however, they're broken, as they don't link to any diffs. Nyttend (talk) 01:24, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Here is 2 and here is 3 one was a page move issue, the other was just a mistake (I think). Thanks for the catch. Cheers. kelapstick (talk) 03:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Fixed links (now that I am actually at a computer), it looks like they just changed to main page links or something like that. Either way this BLP is now properly sourced...Cheers.--kelapstick (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Can you lend a hand at Crest Glide? I think given the origin and 30-year development cycle, there's a good hook in there if it's sufficiently expanded. ^Bongo_matic 14:45, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I will see what I can do, but I am pretty busy these days, and am moving next week....soooooo....I might not have as much free time as I would like. But we will see.--kelapstick (talk) 16:18, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Where are you heading this time? ^Bongo_matic 16:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

K is splitting like a banana... Bongo, I made a few tweaks. I think a hook involving Gore-Tex is the way to go. K, busy, I see? Is all going well? How's Mrs. K., and the little one? Drmies (talk) 16:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I think the Gore-Tex will integrate nicely, is there a picture to go with it? I have to finish up stuff at the office before I take off, then the drive from here to Pictou County, ugh, five days....hopefully we can pull an all nighter to shorten it up. The movers come in a week, I will be on the road next Saturday, Mrs. K and the little guy fly out on Wednesday. I will likely boarding a plane to Mongolia on the tenth. The little guy had to come into bed with us around 3:00 last night, finally settled around 5:00, then the dog decided to change positions, and it was game over. Not a good start to the day. --kelapstick (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I know how you feel. I hope tonight is better! Drmies (talk) 08:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It was, but marginally, I had to take him into bed at 8:30, at which point I fell asleep for the night (not a bad thing actually), unfortunately the transfer at 4:30 to his bed did not go as smoothly as I had hoped, but he was still sleeping when I left at 7:00 this morning...--kelapstick (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Uniformed Services Employment and Re-employment Rights Act, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Avicennasis 12:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, although I don't recall editing it, I must have minorly tweaked it. As I am on the road, I likely will not get to the discussion, but thanks anyway. kelapstick (talk) 14:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

On March 2, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wilson Canyon, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 12:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

• Sunday: Las Vegas to Amarillo, Texas
• Monday: Amarillo to Indianapolis, Indiana
• Tuesday: Indianapolis to Andover, Massachusetts

Cheers, --kelapstick (talk) 05:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Made it on Wednesday.--kelapstick (talk) 15:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad you made it home, eyh. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

On my way to toronto. kelapstick (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

My hotel room is larger than my first apartment.--kelapstick (talk) 01:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

In Vancouver...--kelapstick (talk) 17:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Made it to Mongolia, and slept on what appeared to be a box spring mattress.--kelapstick (talk) 21:40, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Am I missing something here?Also, I want to join. Go ahead, laugh. But I'm serious. CheeseDeluxe (Feel like talking?) 00:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

It's purely fictional...but feel free to dive in.--kelapstick (talk) 00:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I made this barnstar for the bacon cabal. Do you like it?

		Bacon Barnstar
		The offical award of the Bacon Wikiproject

Rin tin tin 1996 (talk) 22:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I actually created that image (from others in the Commons) for use in a bacon barnstar, the template sits at User:Kelapstick/Bacon Cabal/Bacon barnstar. But thanks for thinking of us, and feel free to use the template as you like. cheers. kelapstick (talk) 01:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I also made a userbox for the cabal. Here it is.

Rin tin tin 1996 (talk) 01:57, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, where are you at? I thought you were still on the road somewhere--or did you send your support for MQS via Blackberry? Take care K, Drmies (talk) 05:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• And I tweaked the box some:

Phsaw, we went Vegas to Nova Scotia in less than 4 Days, almost 4000 miles I think (and only pulled over once. No ticket). I am in New Glasgow until Tuesday, then to Toronto, Vancouver, Seoul, Ulanbattar, overnight in UB, then charter to site. I have been busy, so haven't been active, but had to support MQS. How are things with you? kelapstick (talk) 11:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Are you a yummy member, or is the cabal yummy? I am confused.--kelapstick (talk) 13:36, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I am yummy. No need to be confused. I'm alright, I guess--busy and poor, as usual! ;) Drmies (talk) 15:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

		Bacon WikiCup 2010 - Participant Medal
		Because of your work and dedication to expanding bacon-related content during the Bacon Challenge 2010, you have been awarded the Bacon WikiCup 2010 Particpant Medal for partipcating in the Bacon WikiCup 2010 with a final score of 2, earning yourself a tied position for thirteenth place. Congratulations, and thank you for your great work! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! kelapstick (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

I've rolled back my edits (my contribution history is a real mess, now). I'll take it to CFD. The problem is that the RIAA doesn't issue diamond certifications for 10 million plus. That means the category is vague (as named) or incorrect (as described).—Kww(talk) 05:31, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I take it partially back. The RIAA does describe album that are 10xPlatinum and up as "Diamond", even though they do not issue diamond certifications. I'll figure out what to do with the category in the morning.—Kww(talk) 05:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

If I may cut in, it's still worth taking to CFD. The RIAA is not the only company that describes sales as Diamond; Canada also has that as a certification, but it is for 1 million units instead of ten. I'm sure it's similar in other countries, so the the category should at the very least be renamed for clarification. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 05:45, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello all .. i just happen to notice all of Kelapstick reverts to his own edits and ended up here to...yes like Melican says certifications are different all over -->List of music recording sales certifications..So yes i also believe it should be renamed!...Wow that was alot of work to revert all those LOL..Moxy (talk) 05:51, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Moved it to Category:RIAA Diamond award albums—Kww(talk) 16:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Kelapstick, and welcome to the Bacon Challenge 2011! The goal of this event is to expand as much bacon-related content as possible, so get started whenever you can! A side event to the Bacon Challenge is the Bacon WikiCup 2011, an event where participants in the Bacon Challenge have a chance to score points for creating and expanding bacon-related content material, all while trying to score as high as they can. Be sure to submit all your bacon-related contributions to the submissions page in order to score points. At the end of the Cup, the winner will get a nice trophy along with all other participants receiving a medal for their efforts (virtual, of course; don't go waiting by your mailbox for it). For any questions or comments regarding the Challenge, please head on over here, and for any questions or comments relating to the Cup, go here. Thanks and good luck. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

• That was one spectacular sandstorm! Drmies (talk) 03:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Indeed. It is quite windy today too, but nothing quite like that...--kelapstick (talk) 04:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, and it stays with the Goon Show. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 14:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey K, how's the weather? You doing alright? Drmies (talk) 03:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Still raining, but I am in Seoul now, but ICN has a paved runway so they can land and take off from here at least. I haven't had any local flavour on this run, I am sad to say I had Burger King for breakfast (I was hungry, and missed fast food), but dinner will be a different story. I think the engines cut out on our landing in Ulan Bataar, I don't recommend Aero Mongolia...I have been taking pictures and notes for an airport dining website (good way to kill a few hours), but they still haven't separated the two airports in Seoul, so I might not get them up...This place is like one giant duty free shop.--kelapstick (talk) 04:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

And are you safe back home now, eh? Take care, Drmies (talk) 02:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Kelapstick. Because you participated in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 October 2#Bullshido.net, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net (4th nomination). Cunard (talk) 21:15, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.--kelapstick (talk) 23:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I am new here and thus messed up. Thank you for helping. Cy Q. Faunce (talk) 04:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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I noticed you were away, how was Mongolia? Thats one place I have never been too! Life has been busy, I haven't done much in regards to mining articles. I did make it undeground recently, for the first time in almost 2 years, but on rather short notice and with no opportunity to take a cap lamp picture. I will see what I can add, when my little baby-daughter lets me! Calistemon (talk) 00:42, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

...not to mention that turquoise is a hydrous copper compound, and common alteration mineral in copper deposits. ;-) When I have time, I'll try to "dig up" some more info on the geology to help out with your article. LadyofShalott 04:58, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

hehe....I have only really delt with chalcopyrite as far as copper goes, and I try to stay away from geology as much as I can. I was out at the original discovery site the other day, I will have to head over there and get a picture of it some time. Much thanks for the help. Cheers, --kelapstick (talk) 05:21, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

LOL. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:19, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

• That article is a bit in-your-face, I think. Drmies (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Notice the last cake. Oh my. APK whisper in my ear 20:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Your wish is my command. You know I've never eaten lobster, except for some claw meat in some pasta one time? Drmies (talk) 17:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Now that is service. Never eaten a lobster before, *blink*. I am going to buy some off the wharf when I go back in Augutst, can't wait. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 23:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Come on man, you visit my talk page to correct a spelling error--that's all I had to look forward to? You can do better than that. But I am looking forward to the bug, yes. Drmies (talk) 23:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, I haven't looked to deeply into his years in Canada, I was more focused on his time in Gold mining with Sons of Gwalia and Anglo. I know he left SOG to move to Canada but I don't know whether there was any time between him leaving there and signing up with Anglo. There would shurely be some TSX announcement to clarify this but I'm not to familiar at how to search for it. Calistemon (talk) 10:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

You don't have a picture of him by any chance? He was here earlier this year but I was on baby-leave and missed the photo opportunity. Not that I was planning an article on him at that stage. Calistemon (talk) 11:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the average tempratures and the most prominent building in town, I can sort of understand him not dropping by just to provide you with a photo opportunity. Your forgiven, also, looking at the place, I think you already paid for every sin you could possibly ever commit! Calistemon (talk) 11:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The Template:Barrick Gold is by no means restricted to the company's gold buisness only. I must have missed the nickel project, nickel is a bit of a dirty word here in Oz right now, with what the nickel price did in the last couple of years and how many people lost their job!

Regarding the project you mentioned, great idea, I've never managed anything above a double-DYK, a quadruple certainly would be something! It would be a bit of a slow project, as my time here, similar to yours, is a little erratic right now. I propose you create all four in your name space and we expand them gradually till they have the right size. Calistemon (talk) 08:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I've started to do a little work and had a look at the African Barrick Gold website. The official names of the mines are X Gold Mine. I propose, when we do move the articles to the main space to stick with ABG's choice. What do you think? Calistemon (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I think, all four articles have come a long way. I've added the coordinates for Tulawaka and North Mara, but I'm not sure how precise the later once are, failed to clearly idnetify the mine on google earth. Have you given it any thought yet on how to phrase the hook for DYK? We could possibly expand the African Barrick Gold article 5-fold by adding information on the mines and a bit more company background info and make it a fiver-DYK! Whats your thought? Alternatively, I could try to develop Geita Gold Mine from a redirect into an article, something high on my priority list anyway, and make this part of the hook. Calistemon (talk) 01:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok. sounds like a plan, ABG it is. The coordinates are fine, if somebody wants them to be more precise, they can do their own research! Calistemon (talk) 02:03, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I will keep going until baby wakes up! Calistemon (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Good hook, perfect source, just need a bit more size to ABG. Calistemon (talk) 02:36, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

No worries, mate, i think its time for you to move the other four to the main space. I've got to sign off now, baby needs a bath! Calistemon (talk) 03:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)).

I've managed to add two more gold mining articles to the Tansania category, Sekenke Gold Mine and Geita Gold Mine. Apparently, the rights to Sekenke lay with Barrick or, more likely, ABG, but I can't find anything there directly pointing at it. Have you seen anything? Calistemon (talk) 02:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Another Canadian company, Currie Rose Resources Inc., ownes all the land around it, but both the Sekenke and the Kirondatal mine are not part of their lease. Calistemon (talk) 03:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

They are projects. Once upon a time, it said so on the bottom of the template, too, but as it has grown there wasn't any room anymore. By the way, found some more on the Sekenke rights and added it. Calistemon (talk) 03:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it took a while! Calistemon (talk) 02:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I think, we can pop the lid of the champagne bottle and declare it a success. Do you reckon it was the first-ever five-fold-DYK for the Mining project? Calistemon (talk) 12:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

All the best to you and yours, esp. Mrs. Kelapstick. Drmies (talk) 03:54, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Everyone finally gets home tomorrow, and we have to prepare for a hurricane...--kelapstick (talk) 16:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily a bad idea in principle, but definitely poorly named. For one thing, not all of the places it was added to are any class of municipality at all. (St. Boniface? Maillardville? Black Duck Brook? Pain Court?) And for another, I really don't think that "X in Canada-outside-Quebec" is ever really the most useful way to group any given topic. If this type of categorization is needed at all, grouping them by province would be much more appropriate than one cross-Canada category; for example, Category:Ontario communities with large francophone populations (which I've always thought needed a rename too) already exists.

And whether a category is justifiable in principle or not, categories also have to actually exist before we're allowed to go around adding them to 100 articles at a pop — a redlink is never acceptable in the category box. Bearcat (talk) 03:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Saw your invite to Bearcat to discuss this on his talk page. I definately agree with the municipality comment above. At least five of the Alberta places that were attempted additions to this category are not municipalities whatsoever. They are unincorporated hamlets. The term community would be much more appropriate than municipality. Hwy43 (talk) 06:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, I wouldn't call any of them "francophone municipalities" anyway, and what would actually "define" a francophone community? Even the large francophone population category is ambiguous, what defines "large"? More than 30%, more than 50%, more than the average francophone population of the province in question? The joys of bilingualism eh? --kelapstick (talk) 15:50, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

In the case of Ontario, there is at least an objective definition that can be used, in that certain municipalities in the province are specifically designated as "French language service areas" under the 1986 French Language Services Act. That said, as currently constituted, Category:Ontario communities with large francophone populations doesn't exactly correspond to that set; places like Toronto, Brampton, Kingston and Windsor have French language service designations but haven't been added to the category. I've always thought that category should be renamed and reorganized; instead of using an arbitrary and subjective distinction like trying to decide what constitutes a "large francophone population", we should have a category specifically for the designated French language service areas, such as maybe Category:French language service areas in Ontario or something like that.

Meanwhile, in Newfoundland we could probably justify a category for Category:Communities on the Port au Port Peninsula, and in the Maritimes we could probably justify something like Category:Acadian communities. But in some of the western provinces, it may not be possible to be objective and non-arbitrary about it at all apart from the few no-brainers such as St. Boniface or St. Albert, which is one reason why a single cross-Canada category is so problematic. Bearcat (talk) 16:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

If someone were to officially propose a concurrent renaming and splitting of the current category, I would suggest, in the Alberta context, a more generalized category like Category:Communities of francophone heritage in Alberta since there is no applicable provincial designation of such communities, such as there is in Ontario. Hwy43 (talk) 04:50, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hope I got her name right--doing this from memory. Drmies (talk) 01:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hope you dont mind if I join your bacon cabal. :-) Best, ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 05:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome.--kelapstick (talk) 00:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Or in the air as it were...--kelapstick (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Safe travels! ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 18:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I saw your Bacon Cubal. And i was shown alot of bacon article are on wikipeida. Have you thought of making it into a WikiProject or a task force for Food and Drink WikiProject? Spongie555 (talk) 05:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I had somewhat considered it, however I am not really that active on here any more, certainly not enough to try to get a task force togeather. Plus I think it works better as a cabal, more mystery and such :D. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 09:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome and i'm glad to be part of the project. BineMai 11:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I have the answer to the doppelganger question here and elsewhere in the links there. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:38, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Bacon has been created, and you are cordially invited to join, and list yourself as a participant at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Bacon#Participants!
• You may also feel free to add the userbox - {{User Bacon}} - to your userpage, to indicate your participation in the WikiProject.
• The Wikipedia:Bacon WikiCup is also ongoing, more info about that at User:SuperHamster/Bacon Challenge 2011, and User:SuperHamster/Bacon WikiCup 2011.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 08:32, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Much thanks, I can't think of a more worthy cause.--kelapstick (talk) 08:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

You are welcome! Exciting stuff! -- Cirt (talk) 08:38, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for joining WP:WikiProject Bacon! Feel free to post questions, concerns, comments, suggestions for improvement to the WikiProject, updates on related events and goings-on, etc, at the talk page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bacon. We now have six members so far, yay! Thanks again for signing up as a participant, -- Cirt (talk) 20:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like Aboriginal folklore or legend. I've never heared of it, unlike the Rainbow Serpent, which is quite well known. I would be inclined to remove the section as it is completely unsorced and I might just do that now. Calistemon (talk) 01:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

My wife probably wouldn't aprove of me hooking up with some sisters, so no, I haven't. Yes, you are right, the section had been there for quite a while but had been added by a long-term user. Calistemon (talk) 06:47, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I think so but I didn't want to start another move request right after the first one. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 09:02, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

-- Cirt (talk) 00:05, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for sharing, K! Drmies (talk) 01:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the hook, and the quote box! --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Bacon for a Signpost article to be published November 15. This particular article will look at WikiProject Bacon as an example of how new projects get started. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. I'm going to cook some bacon now... -Mabeenot (talk) 20:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

When I mass-produced those twelve Rio articles last night to then expand them in the next couple of days, who would have thought I would become the victim of a Wikihounder (when did Wikistalker become politically incorrect? - I'm out of touch!)? I might have to create the next lot, the BHP ones, individually. But just popping out those twelve factory-style and then expanding them was so much easier, except for the current hassle, of course. On the positive side, if I get enough done on them in the next few days, I could attempt a 12-DYK, given enough article lenght. That would be something for WP MIning! Thanks for the support from distant Mongolia, Calistemon (talk) 06:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Live and learn I suppose, AfD is always incentive for article expansion. I try to avoid using company sources for anything in articles, for exactly this reason. I have seen a lot of people say "mines are not notable", when in probably 95% of all cases (maybe more) independent reliable sources are easily found. Still mining is a pretty obscure industry for many people who don't realize just how much press an individual mine might get. I once saw an admin claim that individual mines usually get deleted by {{db-corp}}, which I have never seen. Only 8 more days and I get to go back from the mother land, even more distant to you than Mongolia!--kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I guess you are right about the incentive to expand an article. In regards to the company sources, I disagree. With public companies, the rules on reporting stock markets impose to me means they have to be pretty honest, or risk major fines. The announcements mining companies put out on the ASX, or TSX, to me are pretty reliable sources, as long as we are talking about facts. Foreward looking statements are another matter, so. Hey, ever though about writting an article on food in Mongolia, while you are there. Or is that a touchy subject? Calistemon (talk) 13:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I am not saying that company sources are not reliable, we had this discussion at WP:MIINING a while ago, and while nothing formal came out of it, most of us were pretty happy to use the company as a source for it's own reserves, especially in cases where NI 43-101 (or the equivilent Australian standard) was in effect. I just know that company sources are often disregarded by editors as if they see no other sources, even going so far as to call the article "promotional" and assuming it will not pass the notability standard because nothing secondary was used. I don't disagree with the use of company data (in particular with regards to production data), I just choose not to use it myself.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

As for food, I don't eat much Mongolian food, although there are a couple things I don't mind, but all the meat has about a 90% fat content. The western food isn't much better...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, mate! Yes, its a bit of a development, from AFD to 12xDYK but I fancy, the second might not have happened without the first! It gave me plenty of motivation to develop the articles further. No, can't think of anything I need from Beijing right now. Last time I went there, coming on the train from Xian, I met my Australian wife on the train! But thats a few years ago! Usually, to someone going to Beijing in winter, or the start of it, I would advise to bring warm close. But for you, coming accross from Mongolia, pack out the t-shirts! In any case, have a safe trip home and a great break from work. Calistemon (talk) 11:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

You are right, I don't check my email much when home. I send you one back. Calistemon (talk) 06:47, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, K. I hope you and yours are doing well. All the best! Drmies (talk) 01:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas Doc, all is well, Father Frost (I am told he is called here) delivered free beer, not a bad present I suppose. Cheers. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:14, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Not really.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me! I was just modifying my user page, and saw that it was still a red link a few days ago. I was literally going to work on it next week. (I have my last final today, in two hours!) I read Angry Black White Boy like 4 years ago, and I think that's how long I've been meaning to start Mansbach's article. JesseRafe (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

• K, congratulations again on finding yet another great topic. My Facebook post is generating a ton of responses, haha. Now go the fuck to sleep! Drmies (talk) 17:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I suppose because I am more polite in my arguments and try harder to improve rather than simply argue about such... this makes me less "rabid" and more "rabbit".

Fox 2000, and no doubt there will soon be either a seperate article or a section for it at Twentieth Century Fox, is a newer division from Fox's News Corp that deals with films that have a darker tone and more mature content. See LA Times article So... not the same as "20th Century Fox" but rather a subdivision of that company's. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry I am just getting back to you. I have been out of the country without an computer. I am trying to figure out what is wrong with the page that my group added. We only added on the page and edited what was already written to allow it to flow better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.40.114.160 (talk) 19:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I assume you are refering to User talk:Cactoblastoff/Temp, please see my comments at User talk:Cactoblastoff, but basically there were two things wrong with it. The content duplicated an existing article (see WP:FAKEARTICLE), and it had been "copy/paste" copied from an existing article, wit no atribution to previous authors, and thus a violation of our copyright policies. I believe that the edited information was copied to the main article, Cactoblastis cactorum. Hope this helps.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Materialscientist (talk) 00:04, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

This! LadyofShalott 22:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, when Drmies added his admin icon, I noticed that it clashed with the bacon icon. Since User:Kelapstick/Bacon Cabal/Logo had no customizable options, I rewrote it, in User:Mandarax/Sandbox2. The new version is more versatile, allowing the size and location to be specified. When used without options, it looks the same as the current version, except it includes rollover text and is shifted slightly lower and to the right. Would you like to use my version as the "official" version? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:23, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Sure, why not? I am all for anything that can improve bacan and its followers. Truthfully, the logo was my bush league attempt at being clever, I just pulled an Ali Baba (did you know that is Mongolian slang for theif/steal?) and grabbed it from someone else. Feel free top copy over the code. I have copied the code over. I made a slight change. Much thanks Mandarax.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:29, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. I didn't include any documentation since only about five people transclude it, but I could add that if desired at some time. BTW, I'm not a bacon "follower"; I'd say I'm cautiously tolerant. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:42, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Minor point, but I notice you removed a pipelink in this See also. Can you please point me to where it says in wp:mos that pipelinks should not be used in a See also. Thanks. --Epipelagic (talk) 04:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I thought it was in WP:SEEALSO, but it looks like I am mistaken...will self revert, looks like some times I have to re-read some things.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:TRR only applies if I do 4 reverts and it's not a violation if I'm reverting vandalism.--Voices in my Head WWE 01:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, my mistake, I had already removed my comment on your talk page. Appologies. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks... don't worry about it though. I'm just going to reference the section to the relevant SPI. LadyofShalott 02:15, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Nobody has had time to source the match since it was just announced minutes ago. Please add the match back. If you do not believe me check WWE.COM in three hours.NASCARFAN1717 (talk) 00:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Get Baptized or Go to Hell — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman1717 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 14 June 2011

Thank you for the advice, however my religous customs are irrelevant to my ability to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:12, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Are you a WWE fan? Because, everyone knows that Big Show is a lot stronger than Del Rio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman1717 (talk • contribs) 22:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I have not watched WWE in quite a long time, maybe 10 years, but when I watch it, I do enjoy it. I seem to recall that Mr. Show was a pretty bad mofo. This Del Rio gentlman however, I am not able to speek of, as I have never heard of him. These days I am more apt to follow Mongolian wrestling (one of the three manly sports), as Naadam is upon us in the next few weeks.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:51, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Watch Capitol Punishment. Christian was World Champ but then lost it two days later to Orton. People are giving the creative team the one-finger salute for that decision to give Orton the belt. Maybe he'll win it back Sunday. By the way, Del Rio was last man to face Edge before he retired. NASCARFAN1717 (talk) 23:04, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Wikiman1717

Unfortunately I will not be able to watch Capitol Punnishment as I will still be in Mongolia. Unless it is on HBO Asia, the Mongolian Television Network, or China Central Television, I am going to have to settle for another episode of Universe Best Songs (it's like American Idol, but in Mongolian). --kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello! You have been invited to take part in the Bacon Challenge 2012. In case you don't know or need a refresher, the Bacon Challenge is an annual celebration of bacon on Wikipedia in which editors come together to help create, expand, and improve Wikipedia's coverage of bacon. The event lasts all the way through National Pig Day 2012, giving participants plenty of time to work at their pleasure. In addition to the Bacon Challenge is the Bacon WikiCup 2012, a side event to the Challenge in which all bacon-related contributions done by those participating in the Challenge are submitted and scored by the scorekeeper (me) based on the scoring chart. At the end of the Challenge, the user with the most points in the Bacon WikiCup will win a shiny trophy for their userpage. In addition, the users who score the highest in specific categories (not yet finalized, but the categories include most image uploads, most article creations, most DYK submissions, and more) will win barnstars. Finally, all participants will receive a medal. While the awards are nice, in the end, the important thing is to have fun and enjoy what we're all here for, which is improving Wikipedia.

If you decide to participate, great! You may add your name to the participants list at the main page of the Bacon Challenge 2012, and pick up the userbox for your userpage if you desire. Signing up for the Challenge will also automatically enter you into the Bacon WikiCup. If you don't wish to participate, that's fine too - maybe next year! In the meantime, if you know anyone who might also be interested in participating, feel free to invite them! The Challenge is open to anyone and accepts participants at any time, so feel free to let anyone who might be interested know.

Note that I, the scorekeeper of the Bacon WikiCup, will be on vacation starting on the 18th of June all the way up until the 5th of July. I will have limited access to the internet, so I may or may not be able to score users' contributions during this time. Sorry for any delay in scoring (but since the Challenge lasts for more than half a year, there's no rush, right? (= ).

I'm looking forward to another fun, successful year. Thanks! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 22:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Even if you aren't currently in the part of the world that celebrates it... LadyofShalott 02:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Lady, I still have a couple more weeks until I return, but I was there for it last year, it is quite the event. The whole country shuts down for about three days.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 13:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Its not bacon, but you are cordially invited back to User:MichaelQSchmidt/Newcomer's guide to guidelines as I feel it going live is imminent and I value additional eyes and input. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Have you been baptized in a Church of Christ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman1717 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that is particularly important to how I contribute to Wikipedia. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:18, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Did you put the flying spaghetti monster on there to p#@s me off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman1717 (talk • Wikiman1717

The Flying Spaghetti Monster has been on my user page since March of 2009, which is more than two years before I started interacting with you, so it is highly unlikely that I added it to piss you off.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Read Acts 2:38 in the bible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiman1717 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Is there a particular reason you feel you need to throw Bible verses at this particular person? The point of Wikipedia is to write an encyclopedia. Period. It is not where one proselytizes. LadyofShalott 03:23, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Wanna take bets on when this Jacques âne will be indef'd? ^Bongo_matic 04:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I think I am going to support him when he runs for admin based on his promise to bring the power back to the IPs.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I just took his suggestion and read Acts 2:38, and to be quite honest, I am not ready to have my sins forgiven yet. I still have a lot of bad stuff I want to do first. Can I get a R'amen?--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Look at the recent escalation and block log. One Toke Over the Line or Nearer, My God, to Thee? ^Bongo_matic 01:26, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Bingo. ^Bongo_matic 02:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

He was determined. LadyofShalott 02:06, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Indeed he was. Although unfortunately I was out for lunch and missed what he had on his userpage that got deleted. I would like to thank you both for participating in this weeks discussion, it gave me some ammusementme in the middle of a rather chaotic week. And thanks to you Bongo, I have been humming/singing One Toke Over the Line for the last two days...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:12, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm late to this party, but I did click on after I read "As an administrator you can still view this diff if you wish to proceed." What always amazes me is the (inverse) correlation between literacy and idiocy. BTW, Bonge, Jacques ane, that's not bad. But it doesn't sound right--Jacques d'Ane sounds better. I wish we had some Frenchies here who could help us out--Bongo is iuesless in that regard. Drmies (talk) 22:49, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I guess you're not notable unless you've read the book out loud: [4]. BTW, I haven't received it either. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, can't watch YouTube at the office, and my connection in camp seldom gives me enough juice, but I will try when I get back. No book yet eh? Maybe I will have to ask the editor. Do you know what happens in 20 days? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:43, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Emm...I teach The Aeneid? Drmies (talk) 18:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Close, CoMs one year ban is up. The books were supposed to have been sent by memorial day, they are sending replacements.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure it wasn't lengthened after Freakshownerd, or whatever it was? I'll check, if I can. Drmies (talk) 22:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Yep, you're right, of course. Drmies (talk) 22:22, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Hey K, the book came in! You guessed it--right after I got them down for a nap! Drmies (talk) 19:34, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Is it autographed? LadyofShalott 20:52, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

No, I wish. But it did come with the press packet--copies of articles and reviews and such, and it has a sticker on the back, "advance copy". Of course Sippi saw it on the table and asked what that word was (it's partly erased by the sun in the US copy), but then it was clear she knew, so mama said, "That's a bad word, we never ever say that!" (And I think, right, you used it this morning a few times, haha.) Anyway, I'm glad it's finally here--I feel less forgotten now. K, you alright? Mongolian Death Worm hasn't gotten you yet? Drmies (talk) 22:18, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Glad it finally came, I inquired about them and they said they would resend it, not sure if mine has come yet, but it will take a little longer. All is well here, haven't had much time or ambition to edit lately, and I have been looking for the death worm, but to no avail. Cheers, --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:40, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Hah, that's funny about Sippi and your wife's conversation. K, if you find that worm, you'd better take some pictures and upload them to Commons! LadyofShalott 22:46, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

From what I hear, you don't find the worm, the worm finds you (TWSS). --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:52, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

My book just arrived, with all propaganda along with it, Mrs. K figures they want us to expand the article with the reviews, etc. Five more weeks and I can read it to the kiddies...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:39, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Your wife makes a lot of sense. LadyofShalott 23:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

That's what she says.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 06:02, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

There is a bit of a debate with a user who claims to be the true owner of Barrick's Pascua Lama project (see: User talk:Opressed Serf). I can't find much on it apart from a Canadian company having purchased the rights off him, subject to him actually owning the title. Have you heared much about this back there in Canada? Calistemon (talk) 08:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I haven't heard a thing about it, although Barrick's website says they are starting construction, I believe of a processing plant, in Argentina. I wouldn't think they would start such a large capital project without being sure they owned the property, but I have been wrong before. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The CBC says it is Barrick's mine here, and here. here. And the CBC isn't a "privately held Canadian media company", it is in fact a crown corporation. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

The whole thing reminds me a lot of Jean-Paul Turcaud and his claim on the Telfer Mine. There is really no reliable information out there that I can find even mentioning the dispute. The Canadian mining company that recently bought the rights doesn't even have a website! Must be a real big player to pull off a $3.6 billion project like this! Seems like a hoax or scam to me, the very least smells pretty fishy! Suerly, if Barrick had been told by the Chileanian high court that the project was not theres we would have heared about it. All work would have stopped and Barrick's share price dropped massivly. Calistemon (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

US$3.6 billion is chump change these days. Have you seen the state of the economy. Better off investing in Mongolian tugrigs. Anyone cam post a website and lay claim to a property. I might just claim OT. If Barrick was not the owner, it would have made the news. Ask Turgan, he mit know something. He's pretty clever. I'm talking to the guy from Perth tomorrow. kelapstick^(bainuu) 13:40, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		I am honored to award you this Barnstar for your work in catching my typos and your valued assistance in bringing Wikipedia:A Primer for newcomers to life for the community. It is hoped that newcomers will benefit from WP:NewbieGuide for years to come. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:45, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you MQS, sorry I didn't get to to the second round of editing, but I saw that you had quite a few capable editors working on it, so I knew you had it under control. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 06:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

It was the initial assistance that kept me on it as an idea worth exploration. The barnstar above was earned.  :) And as a matter of collateral improvement, it was during the second round discussions that I was inspired to write another shorter essay. WP:Wikipedia is not about YOU may also share some insights to newcomers on our concerns about COI. Again, thank you. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I like the new essay also, glad to have been of assistance.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Time for you to write the essay WP:Bacon Primer to encourage new articles on that topic. :) Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 21:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

As the original uploaded of the images you nominated for deletion, I am giving you permission to delete ONLY THE IMAGES RELATED TO THE ORLANDO THRILL PARK as the article has been deleted. This message DOES NOT give you permission to delete the images regrading the Starlight Spectacular show as I am fighting against that.--Dom497 (talk) 13:32, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

I just thought I would mention that the Orlando Thrill Park images could have been speedily deleted because they are orphaned non-free images. You can tag them with {{tl|di-orphaned fair use|date=~~~~~}} rather than nominating them for deletion at WP:FFD (you can also use the DI option in Twinkle to easily do this). I just thought I'd let you know this for future reference. Kind regards Themeparkgc  Talk  22:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I saw that it had been deleted, but it wasn't deleted at the time of my nominations, so I just added comments to the nominations. Cheers, --kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:11, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

That's okay. I just thought I would let you know in case you didn't already. I've tagged the rest of the Orlando Thrill Park images using this method. Themeparkgc  Talk  23:36, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Good news. Calistemon (talk) 06:45, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Silly me, totally forgot who "quick" the department of immigration usually is. Calistemon (talk) 07:25, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Would love to, but suffering from a bit of a lack of time, not helped by 2.5 hour daytime naps with the little one! The mentioned template is a simple affair. Do you just want the mines in it or Chairman, CEO and Directors as well? Calistemon (talk) 06:18, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

See some early efforts here: User:Calistemon/Sandbox. Calistemon (talk) 06:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I've worked the template a bit more but I'm unable to access the company website right now, just won't load. I'm wondering whether its worth having all the key people there at the moment, considering they are all redlinks and are a lot less likely to have an article then the mines. I'm also not happy with the Russia section, to keep in line with the rest it should either say Europe or Asia, depending on location. Calistemon (talk) 11:52, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

When Template:Infobox film is added to an article, it automatically italicizes the title...good to know.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 13:34, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

But there is variable that will override this.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Just add something like this. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Didn't notice that. It's not good. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 00:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

[5] LOL. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:11, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Kelapstick! Thank you for that very useful central access point for 'em. The Romanian Liga I players are as obviously keepable as any English Premier League soccer player, but those "infobox only" articles are in deep shizzle if they stay that way. Thanks again. --Shirt58 (talk) 15:14, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

• Hi Kelapstick! Please have a look at User_talk:Drmies#SC_Vaslui and feel free to leave a second or third opinion. Squank you, Drmies (talk) 14:51, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

If you like you may move it to the commons place you talked about. It is not entirely an orphan, as I had to upload it to create a custom user box.

It has already been the subject of two deletion attempts, and has prevailed both times. If I could find an article regarding Socialism/Communism in California I would be very happy to place the flag there. I have lived here in California for 26 years government in this state is very socialist.--Subman758 (talk) 21:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Fine, I'll go to deletion review. Me-123567-Me (talk) 05:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kristina Calhoun. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Me-123567-Me (talk) 05:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

No, DRV is to discuss any deletion discussion, even if an article is kept and someone thinks it should be deleted. Me-123567-Me (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, as you are helping with the article, do you have any views on this discussion, and also the prior synthesis consensus already reached about the article... one link to one of the synthesis discussions here >> Talk:The_Golden_Rule#Synthesis_tags_consensus_sought

All help appreciated. Many thanks Mediation4u (talk) 08:12, 16 September 2011 (UTC) ^{editing is fun}

No thank you. I have one edit to the article, and that is where it is going to end for now.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 10:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Kelapstick, I have approved your request for AWB. Please review the Rules of Use, then you can get started! Happy editing! --Philosopher ^{Let us reason together.} 06:24, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Spiffy, thanks.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:16, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

For those interested:

• User:Kelapstick/Maricunga Gold Mine
• User:Kelapstick/Fort Knox Gold Mine‎  Done - Still needs a picture
• User:Kelapstick/Tasiast gold mine
• User:Kelapstick/Round Mountain Gold Mine  Done - Could still use some expanding
• User:Kelapstick/Chirano Gold Mine
• User:Kelapstick/Kupol Gold Mine  Done - But still has a lot of information to add.
• User:Kelapstick/Crixás Gold Mine
• User:Kelapstick/La Coia Gold Mine
• User:Kelapstick/Paracatu Gold Mine
• User:Kelapstick/Buckhorn Gold Mine

It should be posible to hide parts of the infobox, I have seen it done before. I flown up back to site today and I'm a little busy at work right now, might take a look at it later. However, any change will affect all articles the template is used in so we will have to be very careful. Calistemon (talk) 08:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I had a look and there is nothing in the documentation on infoboxes about how to make them collapsable. The only infobox that I know uses that kind of code, Template:Infobox motorcycle rider, seems fundamentally different from ours, I can't just copy the code accross. There is a couple of gurus out there that may be able to help, like User:Thumperward or User:CambridgeBayWeather. Its a bit above my limited knowledge. As to you coming to Perth, I'm actually not on site then, being on R&R from 22 to 27. Keep me update and I stock up the beer fridge. Calistemon (talk) 11:45, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Contacted already, but feel free to add to the describtion of the issue. Calistemon (talk) 11:51, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to get back to working on geology sections for these, K, but probably not tonight! I haven't forgotten them. LadyofShalott 23:24, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Filled in a minor red link for you. ^Bongo_matic 01:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Much obliged Bongo, thanks!--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, can't do. I'm still on site then, followed by a family visit to Sydney on my break, followed by going back to site. Early October is going to be a bit busy. Any other dates? Calistemon (talk) 02:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

That's the trouble with FIFO, you are never home when you need to! The things I could have seen and done if only I hadn't been on site that day! Calistemon (talk) 08:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

As of 19 September at 22:00 UTC I will be officially "on the road" (or in the air). For my punctuation errors please direct your concerns to Drmies, for my gross editing mistakes, please see Shalott (Lady of), for recent deaths, please start up the Bong-o-matic. --kelapstick^(crikey!) 19:06, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving, K! LadyofShalott 22:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Turkey was great. And a happy Columbus day to you. Any good sales? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 10:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, even at the best of times its a pain dealing with a visa for Oz. I'm a permanent resident and I still almost didn't get back in last time because I missed the bit about having to reapply for an reentry visa every five years! Being stuck in Singapore after a long flight from Europe, not knowing whether you this will be a quick fix and supposed to go fly back to work the next day is not a nice thing! Read the fineprint carefully! Calistemon (talk) 13:19, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

The hole was indeed hand dug, see "UNESCO World Heritage tentative list". UNESCO..I am hesitant to use that ref on the article though as the article states larges hand dug and I am not altogether sure that it is indeed the largest --NJR_ZA (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I removed it and then readded it, after I saw that the lead said it. I hadn't really read the article, just thought it was an incorrect statement, but it appears that was mistaken. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Not so active these days, been busy lately and I hit a road (writer's) block with the Kinross project above...so I have moved to documenting (on Twitter) what it is like to eat pancakes 56 days in a row...I just started posting today, but I am on day 14 of 56, and it is getting very exciting (as I am sure you can imagine). I am hoping it will make me famous like the guy from Shit My Dad Says.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:12, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

...to this. Drmies (talk) 03:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Some people have no sense of adventure...In other news, my visa was approved. I am going to have to start learning the words to Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

You have too much sense of adventure. Good luck, K. Drmies (talk) 04:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

How do you think that two kids on a Trans Pacific flight are going to make out :| THAT is sense of adventure...I wonder if there is a boat I can take. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The article Coeur Alaska, Inc. v. Southeast Alaska Conservation Council you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Coeur Alaska, Inc. v. Southeast Alaska Conservation Council for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey! It's been a good few months since the Bacon Challenge 2012 kicked off in June, and I'm pleased to say that decent progress has been made. While we were a bit slow to start, bacon-related contributions have been picking up again, and scores have been rising in the Bacon WikiCup. Here's a quick rundown of the overall positions as they stand:

• 1^st: Silver seren
• 2^nd: Worm That Turned
• 3^rd: Rcsprinter123
• 4th: Doh5678
• 5th: Cirt

Currently, only a handful of participants have reported contributions: to those who haven't, remember, there is still plenty of time left to contribute and rise up in through the positions, as the Challenge and WikiCup run up until March. Just like last year, all participants will receive a shiny medal which they can place on their userpages, or use as a self-esteem booster if need be (just joking...sort of). If you need ideas for what to work on, a list is available here.

One last thing! Per request, we are bringing back territory representation into the WikiCup! Editors can now represent nations, states, or provinces, just to add a bit of fun and Olympic-flair to the event. Simply reply to this message with the territory you wish to represent, if you choose to do so.

Thanks for reading! Good luck! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I suppose a lot can happen between blinks. Sorry you missed the party, and thank you for the good wishes. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:08, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I had a look but I can't think of anything that connects the three mines other then ownership. DYK is a lot stricter nowadays then it used to be, the hook and the reference for it have to be pretty good. I will keep thinking and looking.Calistemon (talk) 05:30, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I don't know whether a meet up is in planning or not right now. I had a look for Kupol and found a reference with some more on the rather interessting winter road. What about:

that the isolated Kupol Gold Mine is accessible overland only through an ice road, which is open from late January to April and can only be constructed when temperatures are below minus 25 Celsius? Calistemon (talk) 05:49, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

You even got a picture for he ice road! As to the others, Maricunga Gold Mine and Tasiast Gold Mine are too short yet, Round Mountain Gold Mine just needs a few more words to pass. Calistemon (talk) 05:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

On the move, nominated it under Template:Did you know nominations/Kupol Gold Mine. Don't hold your breath, there is a long line-up, unless somebody really likes it nothing will happen for the next 10 days. Going for a little snoze now, back on nightshift in 3 hours. Calistemon (talk) 07:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Wishing you all the best in 2012, Kelapstick. LadyofShalott 03:48, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Ladt, we made it, and are enjoying Australia, so far. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 20:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad y'all made it safely. Mongolia, Australia... you lead an exciting life! I wonder what new articles this location will induce you to create. LadyofShalott 23:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes indeed, exciting AND glamourous, take today, after cleaning up after the sick boy, I went out and bought a car, and Vegemite, in that order...take care, we'll see what new articles come from here now. Cheers, --kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Upload pictures, K--not of sick boys, of course. Congrats on the Vegemite, of course. Drmies (talk) 01:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kelapstick - many thanks for your helpful responses! --Bermicourt (talk) 15:46, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

If I want to join the Bacon Cabal, do I just put my name into the page, or do I need to be approved or something of that nature? Fortheloveofbacon (talk) 06:18, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

• Our founder is MIA, unfortunately. K may be traveling. Consider dropping User:SuperHamster a line. Drmies (talk) 00:59, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Just add your name I suppose, no travel here lately Doc, except I had to spend the night in Newman, Western Australia, in a bus. No internet lately, just got a user login at work, things move a little slower down here...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
    • You may consider a suggestion I made here. Hey K, good to see you. Is it winter already in your half of the world? We'll be swimming soon here. Please give my regards to Mrs. K and the K-sters. Drmies (talk) 22:36, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
      • I can't make out what your suggestion is. It's either "go out clubbing", or "go fuck yourself", fortunately I am willing to AGF. As for my overnight, fortunately we were at a roadhouse (with no sign of Patrick Swayze), so at least we had a place to eat, drink, etc. Also, they played the music video for Total Eclipse of the Heart on whatever music video station was on. Winter, GAWD NO, it is still dead of summer here, in fact, just last weekend I was out swimming. I have yet to make it to the ocean yet however. When are you coming down for a visit? Should be just a short flight for you I would imagine! Maybe next (your) winter, I will keep the beer cold, hopefully we have a house soon!--kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
        • Neither, fool! Add a section on the overnighting opportunities at the bus stop! Hey, all the best to you. I'm going to open a beer and drink to the health of you and your family. I just got the girls to bed--I think we'll all be asleep before 10PM. Drmies (talk) 03:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
          • Enjoy Doc, hey did you know you can get Miller Genuine Draft here? I have been branching out and sampling some of the local flavour, I quite enjoy Little Creatures.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

<--Are you watching any football? I have no dog in this fight. But I did grind some chuck tonight to make hamburgers--we grilled out tonight. It will be summer here soon as well. Drmies (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Nah, no football today, "working" until tomorrow. I have been picking up on cricket though. Watched a Twenty20 match a few days ago.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:41, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

I was also saddened to read about this death.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't see that before. I'm sure it's a great loss to the world. Oh, mine says hi, by the way! Drmies (talk) 01:24, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

WA beer... bleargh! (Yes, I know I had absolutely nothing to do with this conversation, but anytime is a good time to hate WA beer.) PuppyOnTheRadio (talk) 08:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh, it hasn't been so bad.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

It's an Aussie thing. I'm from Victoria, so I'm supposed to dislike interstate beer. Truth is Little Creatures isn't bad. You should try James Squire at some stage as well. PuppyOnTheRadio (talk) 08:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Editor Bgwhite indicts Kelapstick for being an asshole. Thank you. Bgwhite 01:15, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

If you could see me now, you would see that I am giving a thumbs up...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:50, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

That no good for nothing evil Drmies for setting me up like that. That is a real low blow Drmies. I said I should indict Kelapstick for being an asshole and a pussy. Get it right. I type as I'm under two blankets, it is -3C and had to drive in a blizzard a few hours ago. Bgwhite (talk) 05:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Truth of the matter is Drmies just wanted to link to pissing contest, that article brings back great memories for him (although shockingly he has never edited it?), and he only had me fooled for a minute. Don't be disheartened, come summertime for you, I will be freezing my butt off in 7 to 20 °C (45 to 68 °F), how will I ever cope? Quite frankly this is a nice change for me, I have gone through enough -40° days to last two lifetimes...Cheerios! --kelapstick^(bainuu) 06:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

When did "my sandbox" become a link at the top? --kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Just thought I would share this with you because you did a review for Big Dan. It is not complete yet but it is a good start. Volcanoguy 01:58, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Adding comment to prevent archiving...I will get to this.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 07:02, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Yup! Really, my mom does. Shes an professor. Anyways, i loved ur userpage and i have changed (vandalized) it a little. Hope u dont mind! Yasht101 14:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the effort.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:54, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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The DYK project (nominate) 22:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the edit. How on earth did you stumble across the essay?!? --Dweller (talk) 10:58, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

A combination of perusing the user essay categories and watching Australia and Sri Lanka play One Day International. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

That's cool. Here's a little something to consider...

Hello Kelapstick! I noticed that you contribute to cricket related articles. We are a "WikiProject" aiming to expand, improve and organise information better in articles related to the sport of cricket. We would like to invite you to join us. If you would like to help but don't know what to do, please see our project page or inquire on our talk page. You may sign up for the project on our members list. Happy editing!

--Dweller (talk) 14:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to get people who are willing to help me out with a pet project I've begun but realised that it will be extremely hard for me to even make a small dent in. First of all, I got your name from the list of active members on the wikiproject for mining articles. Please disregard this, if you're not interested.

So, here's what I'm trying to do and what you could do to help me. I noticed that there were very few articles that list mines. I've tried (to the best of my abilities) to create a sub-page that lists all of the probable articles for lists of mines that I could think of, you can review this here.

Basically, I need help. Suggestions on different lists to add, I need lists created, if the lede I've been using should be changed, I'd like community consensus on the standard layout (I've been going with listing articles like List of gold mines by country and List of mines in the United States by output. If someone would like to make templates for these articles.

Please, don't feel obligated. I came to you, and others like you because of your implied interest in mining articles. List articles are not exactly in everyone's taste. If you are completely uninterested, but think you might know someone who might be, please let them know about it. I could use all the help I can get.

Oh, and if you happen to create any new articles on mines, please add them to any of my recently created lists. Sorry for this being so wordy, have a good day and happy editing! Ncboy2010 (talk) 22:33, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment on the Karnail Singh Stadium DYK Nomination, Iv replied on the template. Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 06:32, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

No worries, Cheers! Around The Globe^{सत्यमेव जयते} 07:24, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I need your assistance in developing and spreading a wikiproject. Can you help me in developing and spreading this page in wikipedia: Wikipedia:Wikipedia for World Heritage

Thank you and Happy editing! Yasht101 :) 06:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Not likely, but thanks for thinking of me.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Appreciate your email - I'm editing the Push Girls page little by little so may be making some mistakes that I then correct!

Have a great day,SAS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisas (talk • contribs) 21:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that was a long day in reply...+2 years.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:09, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello Kelapstick, the speedy deletion request for Eliza (magazine) was due to the company having no significant importance. The sources did say that the company was founded or exists, which does not qualify as importance under Criteria for speedy deletion A7 as follows:A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization (for example, a band, club, or company, not including educational institutions),[5] or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines.[6] The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion. Morganmyrmo (talk) 08:38, 28 March 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morganmyrmo (talk • contribs)

Replied on user's talk page.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I am following your instructions. Morganmyrmo (talk) 09:10, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem, that's why the keep me around.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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	Appreciate the guidance today Morganmyrmo (talk) 09:29, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Any time.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 09:35, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

• Better late than never, perhaps: congratulations! Drmies (talk) 05:10, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks, just flew back to site today, actually to Meekathara, then drove here...but I have a killer headache...hoping some coffee helps. Spent the last week unpacking, gawd we have a lot of crap.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:13, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
    • I received a very creep email from Amazon.com with Fat: An Appreciation of a Misunderstood Ingredient, with Recipes as the subject, suggesting that I purchase the book. I was curious if Amazon was tracking my Wikipedia edits, but then remembered I was logged into Amazon to buy a coffee maker (works great by the way), and likely was still logged in when I downloaded the book cover for the article...sneeky ninjas they have working there.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:06, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't PROD the article an IP did so I don't know why you sent me a deprod message & not the IP. I had noticed the artricle had been at AfD before & tagged it with speedy G4 Recreation of material deleted via deletion discussion. But having read the deletion discussion I couldn't establish whether the article was on the same topic so I rollback'd to the IP's version. I'd appreciate if you moved the message you sent me to the IP's talkpage. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 07:01, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Done.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 07:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 07:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

How you travelling on International Cyanide Management Code‎? ^Bongo_matic 17:11, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me, I had a look at it, but didn't do anything yet.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Good start with the excision but think that what's left is pretty slanted. ^Bongo_matic 00:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I just don't have the ambition today for a rewrite...but I will look at it sometime.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Kelapstick, you removed the PROD (or whatever) tags I added to 1999 Demo and 2000 Demo, suggesting that I send them to AFD instead. However, When I try to do the regular AFD for either (not just the 1999 one) it tells me that the page already exists, and will not process the request. (I suppose that could be through a redirect though). That's why I went the PRODS route.In any case, you linked the AFD page in your comment on my talk page, and I'm not really sure why, as the consensus there was to delete anyway (even though it was back in 2006).Given the issue I have been having, what would you suggest I do? --L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello L1A1 FAL. Articles that have been subject to a deletion discussion are not eligible to be deleted via the Proposed Deletion method, that is why I posted the previous deletion discussion. I asked an admin to look at the history to see if the current version was similar to the deleted version, and it wasn't, so they are not eligible to be deleted via the Speedy Deletion method, and previous consensus will not apply, because the article is different. If deletion is the way you want to go, the only other venue available is via AfD. Because deletion discussions already exist, you have to use {{afdx}} template, which will create the deletion discussion page at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1999 Demo (second nomination), or something similar. Hope this helps. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for the timely response. I'll try to work with that template to solve this. Happy editing,--L1A1 FAL (talk) 01:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I THINK that I got this fixed this time. Thank you again for the help. Happy editing --L1A1 FAL (talk) 01:52, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the heads up. Do I just wikilink them on the old pages or is there a specialized template thing?--L1A1 FAL (talk) 13:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok, got it. Thanks for the help.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 14:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Let's start over. We are both professionals here. Morganmyrmo (talk) 06:07, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Moved from user page. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 06:31, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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	Thanks for this. You couldn't have possibly said it any better. ~dee(talk?) 08:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Much thanks! --kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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Do you know if there's going to be a Bacon WikiCup for 2013? And also if the 2012 awards were ever given out? — Cirt (talk) 20:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cirt, I have been laying off the bacon lately, the Bacon WikiCup has mainly been organized and administered by User:SuperHamster, so it is probably best to ask him. Which I see you have. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:20, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Looks like he's on vacation, know anyone else still active on this topic? :) — Cirt (talk) 22:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Not off hand, unless you want to be the new bacon champion.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:54, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Heh, not at the moment, other than the organizational stuff I already did. But thanks! — Cirt (talk) 02:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for reverting me on the Wikipedia edit I made yesterday. I thought that I had rolled it back, but to my horror I just realized I didn't. Thanks again! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 01:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Indeed. You're welcome.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello there. You mentioned it so I started it. Trouble is, it's sort of covered in Job safety analysis#Terms. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh Anna, you're the best! I spent 20 minutes looking for the pyramid on a US government (public domain) sites, because I didn't have the ambition to make one (which probably took you less time!) The whole JSA article reads like a combination of an instruction manual and slapping together of government and corporate instructions. It really needs a complete overhaul, but I think that a "see also" hatnote in the terms section would be good, some of the info from there could be added. There are a few concepts that could be expanded on (if I can find sources), such as the more effective controls (the top of your pyramid) are also the easiest to implement (i.e. the fewest steps). I have an idea for an essay applying this to Wikipedia, just have to get my head around the analogies. Much thanks for the article. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the kind words. I really don't know what to do with the article, though. What do you think?

You seem very nice. I hope you come on IRC sometime soon. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I will try to take a look this afternoon. See what I can drum up. I am sure that a lot of the government sites that you listed include a lot of information, so I should be able to get something to beef up the sections, rather than just the examples. Not likely to see me on IRC though, typically that sort of thing is blocked on the networks I usually edit from. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:12, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. I logged into this IRC thing. It is very...retro. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I just saw you come and go in the log. Come back and we can chat if you like. Double click my name and it will flash on this end. And yes, very retro. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Yup. :) -kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Safety#See also is so large, it sort of begs for a navbox. Thoughts on that? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:48, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Eh, maybe not really a good plan. Who at Bicycle safety would click a link to Toy safety? Nevermind. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

True, but occupational safety and health (or whatever it is is called here) could probably use one.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Will look and see. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I like it. Usually, I try to make complete navboxes, then hope others expand it. That doesn't work so well. I think I will try to make this one barebones to encourage others to improve it. Thanks for the suggestion. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:09, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Occupational safety and health (article name) or Occupational health and safety? (common nomenclature) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I think it depends on what country/company you are with. I don't think either is more common than the other. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:15, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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		For your work on Hierarchy of hazard control‎, an article that would have otherwise been destined for an awkward, and possibly inappropriate, merge. Thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Awe, thanks Anna, but you did all the work! I just typed and added pretty pictures :) Let me know if you get that template started and I will see about filling it out.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 08:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

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I think that you should seriously consider taking a break before you start doing weird things of top level (though this edit was at the height of it) Yasht101 23:20, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Haha, thanks Yasht, I love coffee, but I am fine. I did a page move from user space to article space, and the old system, all you had to do was delete the prefix of the article, now you have to select the prefix from a drop down box so it got moved from a subpage of mine to an unregistered user page, rather than the article space (the drop box is probably a better system, I am just not accustomed to it yet). When I tagged my pages for deletion, I forgot to uncheck the notify user (lately I have been tagging manually, as the last three years I had been editing on IE, not Chrome, so I didn't have access to Twinkle, just getting back into it.) Then I saw that I had warned myself, and here we are. At least I didn't tag my own edit as vandalism...Cheers, have a good weekend! --kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

You did not approve deletion of Eliza Magazine as they were sourced in a small local newspaper, however you vote delete on Fashion 5.0 when it was covered for it's notability with the largest magazine authority in the country. Mr. Magazine operates the Magazine Innovation Center at University of Mississippi and has published only three interviews in 2012, with the president of Hearst Magazines, the publisher of Food Network Magazine and also the publisher of Fashion 5.0. --Gracophilus (talk) 12:00, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

The Salt Lake Tribune, and deseret news are hardly small local papers, in particular when the magazine is base in Los Angeles. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 12:38, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't mean to undo your removal of the speedy deletion... not sure how I rolled it back as vandalism. Tchaliburton (talk) 05:38, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Why are you allowing this vandalism ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottMMA (talk • contribs) 02:20, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Because that is how I roll. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:22, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for rolling your own way. The sort of snickering (but bold) vandalism you reverted on three AfD procedures and one user page is a mere sample of the treatment editors have been getting since one user decided to clear a bunch of uncited "dead wood" last summer in the MMA/Kickboxing area of content. Thanks for the looking out. BusterD (talk) 03:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, I have been tangently following the MMA discussions, and briefly participated at the WT:MMANOT discussion. I will keep reverting as I notice things. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting latest MMA Troll Mtking ^(edits) 03:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

No worries. I had preped an AIV report, but he stopped before I had filed it. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 03:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

How is President Obama related to Dick Clark? The White House comments a lot but it is POV to become their wingman and insert all of President Bush or President Obama's condolences and comments into every Wikipedia article, I believe. What is the best way to discuss this? Auchansa (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I believe they are third cousins. Replied on users talk page, where the discussion began.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:25, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

In a way, it can be justified, if one is a lawyer and using legal technicalities. President Obama is America's rock star president and Dick Clark was a rock star promoter. Not quite related but, with a stretch, they are in related fields! Auchansa (talk) 05:21, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

See example. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:26, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Just to make things perfectly clear, I am not opposed to Obama and don't have a strong opinion about including him in the Dick Clark article. I am slightly leaning toward not having it but am not violently opposed to a mention in the article. Auchansa (talk) 05:29, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Personally I don't think that articles should include what boils down to politician/celebrity eulogies in them at all. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Want to suggest that there not be any eulogies? Auchansa (talk) 05:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't particularly want to, nor do I really care that much. They usually flesh themselves out after a few months I think, if you take a look at Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston, I don't think that they have them. Once the initial reaction dies down, the article gets improved and the get removed, I think. But if you want to propose it, you can go ahead on the talk page. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:48, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say that your vandalism counter actually encourages vandalism. Even a law abiding citizen like me could not help but to increase the counter by 2. Auchansa (talk) 05:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, well, I don't mind. Better to have my userpage vandalised than something in the real world...--kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:45, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:59, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help, clearly passes WP:RESSEWITHERSPOON.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. Yes I am very new to this and just getting to grips with it all. I have only the intention of using my Sydneysider1979 account now and will look to close down the other one. Thanks very much Sydneysider1979 (talk) 02:29, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Replied on talk page. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:32, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I see what you are saying, and thanks for telling about the removal of the template. Tboii99 ✉ 23:34, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Kelapstick, Titodutta has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

And what/why is that trout? I feel previous version of your page was much better, you can revert it!--Tito Dutta ^Message 00:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

At peer review. Volcanoguy 19:08, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Volcanoguy 02:43, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

You have been blocked for sloth. Mining in Canada on Twitter still does not exist. Drmies (talk) 04:03, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I will do my best after my block expires :) --kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

After I put this here it occurred to me that it's a bit contradictory. Like punishing schools by taking their funding way if they don't meet AYP. Drmies (talk) 13:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:11, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Since you asked, and since I consider myself an expert on the matter (having successfully gotten a women out of her dress at least 3650 times in the last ten years - conservative estimate), I decided to share my secret with you.

Marry her. Then treat her nicely.

NB! Under no circumstances answer the question "Does this [insert article of clothing here] make my [insert body part here] look fat?"."Yes" will get you into trouble for calling her fat."No" will get you into trouble for lying to her.My suggestion is to suddenly start crying because you have (once again) realised how beautiful she is and how lucky you are, or feigning a heart attack.

HTH, Jdoller (talk) 19:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Baie Dankie, Cheers, --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:11, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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	Thanks for the message, indeed it is my first time. This page was created as part of a university assignment. We were asked to contribute to wikipedia but the work is my own I assure you. Honskids12 (talk) 04:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

You are welcome. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 04:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

UFC articles arent notable enough for wikipedia, but fake rasslin' WWE articles are... How is this logically explained? Glock17gen4 (talk) 00:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Replied on user's talk page.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I started Template:Occupational safety and health. "Issues" group name is not quite right. Thoughts? Thanks bunny! :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I will try to have a look soon. :D --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Someone forgot to notify you, I will let you handle that situation at the ANI itself, I'm not interested in participating there. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 00:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Horrah! Was just getting to it. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Dennis, given the discussions on Glock's talk page, I highly doubt that he will be back in 24 hours, and I would strongly suggest you review your opinion of him as likeable :O --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I have been here for a while and want to improve myself. Though I try my best to do the right thing, I may do something wrong. As you have seen me work, can you please leave me a review as I want to know where I stand so far and what should I improve to be a good editor. Your opinion has always been valuable and your review can help. Thanks :) Yasht101 08:21, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Kelapstick. You have new messages at Hasteur's talk page.
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Mind if I do some vandalism? I promise I'll update the counter. :) Tboii99 ✉ 00:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Not at all. Go right ahead. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:03, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hurrah!! Wait, so do I undo it afterwards, or are you going to do it? Tboii99 ✉ 00:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

It's up to you. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:11, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Fine, I'll do it. Tboii99 ✉ 00:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I did it but some guy reverted it seconds after. :) Tboii99 ✉ 00:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hehe, yup, that was me. Feel free to ignore the warning in this case. Arcandam (talk) 00:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, those are the breaks I guess. Nice to know people are watching. I do hope that committing vandalism in a controlled environment was therapeutic for you. My userpage is always open. Enjoy. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

It was... and it felt nice :) Happy editing! Tboii99 ✉ 00:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey, me again, I saw it on your user page and was wondering, what's trouting? (Sorry, I'm sure you had enough Tboii99 for one day) Tboii99 ✉ 00:56, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Nah, no worries. Trouting is the act of getting smacked in the face with a large trout when you make an obvious or stupid mistake. See WP:TROUT. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:00, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I see, that's funny. Probably one thing I like around here is the light atmosphere; the fact that not everything needs to be taken seriously. Perhaps what's funnier is Template:Whale Tboii99 ✉ 01:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Or perhaps Template:Minnow.--kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:09, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that really is funny, I couldn't help but laugh. Tboii99 ✉ 01:11, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

stop editwaring, make your augment at the talk pages as the wikirules say you should. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottMMA (talk • contribs) 10:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

You are the one engaged in vandalism by not following wikirules and discussing this at the correct talk page, look at the 13 editors who want them back vs. the 3 who want them into one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ScottMMA (talk • contribs) 10:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:ScottMMA. Thank you. Mtking ^(edits) 11:13, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

--kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Template:Did you know nominations/Lego tires. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. "Slackers" is not acceptable, Mr/s. Kelapstick. Drmies (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

• BTW, well done. Nicely handled, in a professional and correct way. Drmies (talk) 14:36, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
  • You were only upset by slackers because you knew it to be true. Just wait until Disney World turkey leg goes to the main space and I call at 2:00 am for you to copyedit because I can't keep myself from nominating it for DYK. I am sure that Mrs. Drmies will be quite happy to receive that call. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
    • And for the WWE comment, thanks, that whole debacle makes my head spin, part of why I don't get involved. I have never seen someone who can write so much and say so little. I am just waiting for the two RfCs to finish, so we can get on with our lives. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 21:26, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I noticed you at the help desk. Have you checked out Wikipedia talk:Help desk#Help desk talkback script? I find it incredibly useful and I use it for new editors, IPs, and older editors if they don't appear to respond or take action after a response. Ryan Vesey Review me! 05:22, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Much thanks, I'll have a look. Cheers. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:27, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that looks pretty cool, while I haven't used it yet, it looks pretty slick. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 05:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Casliber, and thanks to all that made this dream a reality!--kelapstick^(bainuu) 00:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

You need to work on your speech, K. ;-) LadyofShalott 01:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, had I not been typing this on a mobile device, there would have been an added section about how much we had all been touched by Lego...erc. Much thanks for the help Lady, hope you enjoyed your weekend. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:06, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I did, thanks! I hope you did as well. Are you and the family getting to explore Australia, or at least your area of it, a bit? LadyofShalott 01:15, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you see that? 21,000 hits! Drmies was right. Indeed Lady we have been getting out and about, down to Yallingup (caravan camping), stopped at the Busselton Jetty on the way back, we were up at the Yanchep National Park this weekend and took the kids caving (on a short guided cave tour), the Perth Zoo has seen us quite a few times, and the Caversham Wildlife Park is quite awesome if you want to feed some Kangaroos. Aside from that we are out to the beach quite frequently (even now that winter is almost upon us, although it is still 25 °C (77 °F) most days) and the kids love all the parks that are around. Kings Park is a great place to go as well, lots to do there, we saw the new Muppet's movie at the outdoor theatre there a few months ago. We have also done a few trips into Fremantle, where we saw one of your aircraft carriers moored offshore, quite a sight to see, and of course we lunched at Little Creatures :) --kelapstick^(bainuu) 01:45, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

• Hey, thanks for the co-nom, K! </> Drmies (talk) 02:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Pshaw, I had it written and nominated by the time you woke up! That will teach you for sleeping on the job. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:12, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
    • Dude, if it hadn't been for me, someone would have slapped a "not English" template on it, and you would NEVER have learned how to make a wheel out of Lego blocks. Drmies (talk) 02:21, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
      • But what have you done for me lately? I am in talks with Lego to get this picture of the first Lego tires (tyres) licenced properly. This is bigger than both of us Doc. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Completely serious replies here. Geez, I didn't realize how much I missed NPP until I left it for a couple months... Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 06:30, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done--kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm trying to get a wikipedia page up and running for my local roller derby team "North east roller derby". It's been deleted and from what i can tell you suggested it's deletion. What i had done was limited i admit, however i am new to creating wikipedia pages and was working on filling it out properly. It's my first time on wikipedia and this is not really a very nice welcome.

If I have done something wrong can you please tell me what it is.

1984Tpearson (talk) 10:46, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done--kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome and feedback on the anthracite page. Not sure if this is the best place to reply, but wanted to address specifically the issue of spamming. That was not my intention when I edited the page anthracite, nor am I interested in boosting anyone's search results. The problem with the anthracite market is that it is generally very opaque - there is no spot price or readily available numbers as prices are set on a deal-by-deal basis between producers, traders and end-consumers. In this case I thought the website of a company that includes a succinct summary of the current state of play (about three quarters of the way down) could be acceptable. I don't work for the company in question, nor am I ever likely to. Will raise it on the anthracite page. Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmorley1 (talk • contribs) 11:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

 Done--kelapstick^(bainuu) 11:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Can I just politely remind you that if you tag a page for deletion - it's all the more important if you tag it for speedy deletion - you should inform the creator. Besy wishes, Boleyn (talk) 05:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't ucheck the notify original creator when I nominated it, Twinkle defaults to not notifying the original creator in the case of {{db-disambig}} (as it is asserted to be uncontroversial maintenance) so you may wish to take that up with the people who write Twinkle. However the DAB page that you created was only to disambiguate the two existing George Winston's and George Theodore Winston, which was speedy deleted as a blatant hoax (for your reference the pictures in the deleted George Winston article were actually of William Lundigan, he didn't appear in any of the movies listed at the bottom, and there was a claim to marriage that didn't check out on the alleged spouses WP page).

At the time it was a completely valid CSD nomination as I had hatted the remaining pages in question, however I see you have added to the DAB since then. I don't particularly care one way or the other if the DAB is kept or deleted, and don't care to argue the merits of including a minor counties cricket player who's name is a Winston George but is known to everyone else as Mark on the list. Either way, thank you for the note, and I will keep it in mind in the future. Cheers, --kelapstick^(bainuu) 06:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I was trying to cover all bases by including Winston George, but I've now removed it. Boleyn (talk) 16:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello Kelapstick. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of The Doghouse Diaries, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This is a quite borderline nom in my mind, and I think that it would probably be best discussed by the community at AfD, rather than on the talk page. I will decline this speedy, and nominated via AfD. Thank you. GedUK  16:16, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 22:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Reducto ad Bieberium --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I really like your article. This link seems to have possibilities, but I leave it to your discretion -- it's your page. Doll, Jen (May 24, 2012). "Do We Really Care if Bill Clinton Posed with Porn Stars?". The Atlantic Wire. Retrieved May 24, 2012. I apologize for horning in on your page, but it is hard to resist. Keep up the good work. Life is short . . . 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

• I thought of it too when I saw those stupid pictures. Drmies (talk) 02:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Had to 86 the baby eating dog, it's not really a news story, and WP:FART is (semi)-serious business, although I see no reason not to allow porn. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 23:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For pointing out that oddly appropriate essay. I had a good laugh. RunningOnBrains(talk) 14:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! That is probably my favorite essay. For those interested, see Wikipedia:Dweller's Sri Lankan cricket team test. --kelapstick^(bainuu) 10:56, 30 May 2012 (UTC)